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View Poll Results: Should the B.C. government explore amalgamating Metro Vancouver's municipalities?
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Old Posted: Aug 14, 2011, 10:44 PM
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That is exactly how i have envisioned how metro Vancouver should be divided Go_Leafs_go02. Love it

Anyways, there really would not be any need for amalgamation if the province / translink and other such regional forces were a little more strong in regards to getting regional wide services built.
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Old Posted: Aug 14, 2011, 10:52 PM
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He's just saying that Vancouver should speak for Vancouver, Surrey for Surrey, etc. Is there a political voice within Vancouver that could be drowned out by amalgamation? Duh... Yes. This may not bother you in particular since your views tend to sway in that direction but for a great many other Vancouverites this would not be a positive direction for our city. That's all.
It's not just Toronto either (which I think everyone - most Torontonians included - agrees is a complete embarrassment). Hamilton has been having similar problems - so much so in fact that almost everyone who weighs in on the issue, urban and suburban alike, agrees that amalgamation was a mistake.

The fiscal incentive for amalgamation is, generally speaking, supposed to be two-fold: Cost-savings stemming from more efficient governance (didn't happen), and a larger pool of tax revenue (which leads to suburbanites resenting higher property taxes to support city transit they'd never use, urbanites resenting the fact that they generally foot the bill for suburban greenfield development and infrastructure, and civic political representation skewed heavily in favor of the less densely populated suburban districts). Much like their neighbours to the northeast, an amalgamated Hamilton is a relatively paralyzed Hamilton.
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Old Posted: Aug 14, 2011, 10:54 PM
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That is exactly how i have envisioned how metro Vancouver should be divided Go_Leafs_go02. Love it

Anyways, there really would not be any need for amalgamation if the province / translink and other such regional forces were a little more strong in regards to getting regional wide services built.
. . .Or if they had the political say-so to implement a sustainable revenue model.
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Old Posted: Aug 15, 2011, 1:10 AM
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That is exactly how i have envisioned how metro Vancouver should be divided Go_Leafs_go02. Love it

Anyways, there really would not be any need for amalgamation if the province / translink and other such regional forces were a little more strong in regards to getting regional wide services built.
Good points, and thanks for the compliments. It actually was pretty easy to do. Separate most using strictly geographical or zoning boundaries. Most are separated by water or a small creek, and the rest are separated with a swath of forest or agricultural land, or in a few cases, where residential backs up to industrial.
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The suburbs are fine thanks, us Tri-cities and Ridge Meadows guys are pretty moderate, it's Surrey and Langley I'm worried about.

go_leafs_go02 I also like your idea.
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Old Posted: Aug 17, 2011, 1:49 AM
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Does it bother me that I don't get a vote or say in Surrey's municipal affairs while living in Vancouver? No. Surrey can speak for Surrey and that doesn't bother me. Their voice is no less than mine, it's just not as relevant to Vancouver-specific issues and vice versa.

If you prefer a suburban political mentality over an urban one, then why don't you just move there?
Because there are plenty of people in the City of Vancouver who feel the same. For some reason there tend to be a lot of single people in the downtown core who feel their views represent the majority of the city, when in fact they don't.
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Old Posted: Aug 17, 2011, 2:18 AM
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The suburbs are fine thanks, us Tri-cities and Ridge Meadows guys are pretty moderate, it's Surrey and Langley I'm worried about.

go_leafs_go02 I also like your idea.
Half of Surrey's ridings went NDP in the last federal election, and it's hard to imagine Langley being included with Vancouver in any amalgamation. Even if it is, that's not nearly enough votes to overthrow the left-wing majority in Metro Van.

Your fears are totally baseless.
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