Toronto 2020 Olympic bid

blacktrojan3921 · #1 Posted: **Jun 3, 2011, 6:58 PM**

Well, I might as well start a thread on this, since it's now the time period where interested countries and the city of they're choice has to put forth an applicant bid before September in order to officially bid for the olympics.

Personally, I think it's very likely Toronto will win this time, especially when you consider the news that South Africa has officially decided not to bid for the 2020 Olympics.

PoscStudent · #2 Posted: **Jun 3, 2011, 7:05 PM**

I have my doubts that Toronto will win seeing it will be only ten years after Vancouver. I've heard it mentioned several times that Canada will have to wait longer then ten years before hosting the Olympics again, the Summer Olympics are also much harder to get but who knows.

caltrane74 · #3 Posted: **Jun 3, 2011, 7:07 PM**

I also don't see this happening, Africa will kill itself to get the games in 2020, as will Toronto's Arch Enemy Dubai.

Urban_Genius · #4 Posted: **Jun 3, 2011, 7:11 PM**

Meh, It will be very difficult for many reasons.
Although one must think North America is due for the Summer Olympics again.

blacktrojan3921 · #5 Posted: **Jun 3, 2011, 7:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by caltrane74

I also don't see this happening, Africa will kill itself to get the games in 2020, as will Toronto's Arch Enemy Dubai.

The only African countries that are still on the fence is Morocco, Egypt and Kenya.

I don't think Kenya can handle this type of event as they're economy is not as strong as Africa, and Egypt as well as Morocco's chances of making they're bid officially is dampened due to the Arab Spring protests.

Edit: Here's more news regarding South Africa not doing 2020, now they're going to bid on the 2022 Commonwealth Games. http://www.gamesbids.com/eng/commonw...216135725.html

Denscity · #6 Posted: **Jun 3, 2011, 8:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by caltrane74

I also don't see this happening, Africa will kill itself to get the games in 2020, as will Toronto's Arch Enemy Dubai.

Toronto is not Dubai's arch enemy thats hilarious.

Even Shanghai isnt building height like Dubai. Toronto doesn't even have one "new tallest" on the way.

blacktrojan3921 · #7 Posted: **Jun 3, 2011, 8:04 PM**

I think Caltrane is referrencing to the amount of construction on buildings between Toronto and Dubai

thurmas · #8 Posted: **Jun 3, 2011, 8:06 PM**

I don't know Calgary got it just 12 years after Montreal.Maybe this can help the Argos get their own stadium.I know this could lead to an nfl type stadium in Toronto opening that can of worms. I would rather have Canada bid on the 2026 World Cup which would benefit 10 Canadian cities instead of just 1.

blacktrojan3921 · #9 Posted: **Jun 3, 2011, 8:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by thurmas

I don't know Calgary got it just 12 years after Montreal.Maybe this can help the Argos get their own stadium.I know this could lead to an nfl type stadium in Toronto opening that can of worms. I would rather have Canada bid on the 2026 World Cup which would benefit 10 Canadian cities instead of just 1.

I really don't think Canada would go for the World Cup... Well, not the premier world cup anyway, we're not a soccer crazy country and we would have to build almost a dozen soccer fields that would have to be temporary since most of the Canadian cities (excluding Edmonton, Toronto, Vancouver, and Montreal) don't have a soccer team that would be tenants. Plus isn't Canada bidding on the 2015 Women's World Cup?

Edit: Scratch that, turns out Canada IS going to host the 2015 Women's World Cup

caltrane74 · #10 Posted: **Jun 3, 2011, 8:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by Denscity

Toronto is not Dubai's arch enemy thats hilarious.

Even Shanghai isnt building height like Dubai. Toronto doesn't even have one "new tallest" on the way.

I was referring to the Canadian gov't refusing to slot in Dubai for landings at Pearson International Airport. (Toronto)

duh? - We are having a little airport war right now, looks like Dubai is gonna get it's wish and be able to fly in and out of Toronto as they wish.

thurmas · #11 Posted: **Jun 3, 2011, 8:28 PM**

World Cup's typically have 9-11 host cities with Hamilton, Winnipeg, Ottawa,Regina having new stadiums being built of very soon to be built in addition to Calgary, Edmonton needing just some minor renos and a new BC place teaming up with skydome and a redone big o in Montreal it could be done under $1 billion which is pretty cheap compared to what Germany and South Africa spent the past world cup's.

MolsonExport · #12 Posted: **Jun 3, 2011, 8:48 PM**

waste of time. No farking way Canada will get another games only 10 years after Vancouver.

MolsonExport · #13 Posted: **Jun 3, 2011, 8:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by thurmas

I don't know Calgary got it just 12 years after Montreal.Maybe this can help the Argos get their own stadium.I know this could lead to an nfl type stadium in Toronto opening that can of worms. I would rather have Canada bid on the 2026 World Cup which would benefit 10 Canadian cities instead of just 1.

few cities wanted to host the olympics after the financial boondaggle in Montreal.

feepa · #14 Posted: **Jun 3, 2011, 9:47 PM**

Shouldn't this be in the Toronto section?

Similar threads about Edmonton get moved back to the Edmonton section when created here.

sparky212 · #15 Posted: **Jun 3, 2011, 11:32 PM**

There is no toronto section really

The_Architect · #16 Posted: **Jun 4, 2011, 1:40 AM**

Toronto won't get 2020, but after Chicago struck out for 2016, Toronto's next in line for 2024. I could see it winning based on the fact that it'd be NA's turn to host, and Toronto is one of the largest cities in NA not to host them yet (largest actually I believe).

However Toronto first needs to not royally screw up the Pan-Ams, which seems very likely at this point, what with Hamilton's stadium charade, Etobicoke's BMX bullshit, and Mr. "Gravy Train" Mayor.. I really truly hope they are able to pull it off, because it would increase their chances by quite a lot.

There was a lot of support behind the bid for 2008, but overall a lot of people are timid about it after the whole Montreal financial craziness over their games. We would like to pay off any venue in less than 30 years if possible.

dragonfly4ever · #17 Posted: **Jun 4, 2011, 1:52 AM**

Well, let's see... Winter Olympics in Lake Placid in 1980, Summer Olympics in Los Angeles in 1984. Summer Olympics in Atlanta in 1996 and Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City in 2002.

Based on this, I don't see why Toronto doesn't have a good chance at getting th Summer Games in 2020.

haljackey · #18 Posted: **Jun 4, 2011, 2:03 AM**

2020? I doubt it.

2024? Now that's a shot.

Having the same country host the Olympics after just 10 years... isn't fair even though Winter and Summer should be considered separate. Sadly other countries don't see it that way. (USA is the exception it seems.)

The_Architect · #19 Posted: **Jun 4, 2011, 2:27 AM**

Yea Atlanta and Salt Lake City were 8 years apart, Lake Placid and Los Angeles v.2 was only 4 years!

SpikePhanta · #20 Posted: **Jun 4, 2011, 2:39 AM**

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Originally Posted by blacktrojan3921

The only African countries that are still on the fence is Morocco, Egypt and Kenya.

I don't think Kenya can handle this type of event as they're economy is not as strong as Africa, and Egypt as well as Morocco's chances of making they're bid officially is dampened due to the Arab Spring protests.

Arab Spring protests would effect egyptian bids, but Morocco hasn't really been touched by the mouvements.

Toronto could very well win a bid in 2020 or 2024 if they handle the PanAm games well enough.
Problem is that Summer olympic games are always a financial white elephant.