Compass & Fare Gates Discussion | u/c

[aberdeen5698]

Originally Posted by Dave2

A/C on MK-II.. That time of year again Changing the wording on the windows made little difference. How about "Fine for opening"

Bad, choice of words. Sounds like "it's fine if you open these windows..."

"Penalty for opening" would be better, but I doubt it would happen.

[Meraki]

Originally Posted by aberdeen5698

Bad, choice of words. Sounds like "it's fine if you open these windows..."

"Penalty for opening" would be better, but I doubt it would happen.

They should just be equipped so that they start beeping if opened. Since they're for emergency use only I'm sure nobody would mind.: )

[Waders]

Originally Posted by GeeCee

It's a good thing then that they're not going to add faregates to the station before doing major renovations, then!

It is really impossible to install faregate at Metrotown with the current configuration. I just hope somehow Translink can find the money to do the station renovation.

From what I can see, I suspect there will be 1 Compass card reader on the right side at the bottom of the stair, 1 card reader at the right side at the bottom of the escalator, 2 at the skybridge entrance and 2 at the east entrance stair. It will be interest to see how the card tap on/off action would slow the human traffic.

[Waders]

Looks like the project schedule has shifted a bit from the original target day to have the system in operation by Jan. 2013.
Also the existing weekend benefit enjoyed by prepaid pass would be retained. No idea how that can be implemented technically.

Last month, B.C. transportation minister Blair Lekstrom said during deliberations at the legislative assembly that the system will be tested starting in January 2013. It will become operational in May of the same year.

Source: Straight

[allan_kuan]

So... is it time for another photo update? I believe so... in fact I'm quite overdue on this. These were taken most recently on Friday.

Patterson Station East





Patterson Station West





Joyce Station East





Joyce Station West





29th Ave Station Southwest





Royal Oak Station South






Edmonds Station Central




More photos of other rebuilt station entrances like Surrey Central, Scott Road, Burrard, Stadium, Gilmore, and possibly New Westminster may follow.

Some photos of other stations are possible but don't expect them to be very interesting..... if anything you'll be seeing a few holes in the floor and maybe a sturdier version of the typical bus shelter to house equipment at some Expo Line stations.

[officedweller]

Thanks for the pics!

[Echowinds]

The extra glass regardless makes the Expo stations look better. I wish they eventually replace those metal panels with glass. More secure for the transit users as well as making the stations themselves look better.

[SpongeG]

thanks for the pics update - i can't really remember how most looked before the renos however, but they look good

[BCPhil]

Originally Posted by Waders

Looks like the project schedule has shifted a bit from the original target day to have the system in operation by Jan. 2013.
Also the existing weekend benefit enjoyed by prepaid pass would be retained. No idea how that can be implemented technically.


Source: Straight

Could the Straight have used a more ghetto looking picture of Skytrain?

Well, I think it would be quite easy to uses the passes like they are now. The gates aren't turnstiles like they have at the seabus and they won't slam closed the second after the person goes through, so therefore it will be easy for multiple people to go through at once. So, if it's a family of 4, they could use the wide gate, which should stay open long enough for all of them to get through on one pass swipe (it should stay open long enough to get a wheelchair or bike through so it should be easy to herd your kids through it).

Then, it's up to police to judge the fairness of the fare if they get inspected inside stations or trains(just like now). To counter people trying to slip through the gates unfairly, have heightened enforcement on Sundays (the ridership doesn't really peak so fare inspections should be easy).

Originally Posted by SpongeG

thanks for the pics update - i can't really remember how most looked before the renos however, but they look good

Before they looked like oversize chicken coups. I hate the white steel mesh at the Expo stations with a passion. It might have been awesome in the 80's, but like everything else that was cool in the 80's, it sucks now.

I see the benefit of it (it's harder to tag with graphiti and harder to break), but it makes the stations feel smaller than they are, harder for police/security to see what's going on, and much much colder than they need to be when it's windy. I wish they would replace all the mesh with glass.

[Waders]

According to the recent West Coast Express Station Preparation tender released by Translink,
Waterfront Station, Coquitlam Station and Pitt Meadows Station will be involved for the pilot project, with the operation of a single pilot Farecard Vending Machine along with the Stand Alone Validator.

[SFUVancouver]

The new entrance to the elevator at Burrard Station appears to be complete, save for the installation of the fare gates and the new ticket vending machines.

Taken by SFUVancouver, June 26th, 2012.

[Metro-One]

Looks nice, but sadly some ass will vandalize it with the acid etched tagging I have seen so much around town lately...

[Dave2]

Originally Posted by ryanmaccdn

I find that they are pretty clear that they are emergency exits..... no?

Most are alarmed but have fallen into disrepair.... although the sweet justice here with the compass card will be when whomever decidedes to use them they will be dinged the full price trip instead of tapping out and getting the cheaper.

One thing that really grinds my gears are people who open the windows on Mark 2 trains..... I just about punched a lady the other day.

Clearly people don't understand the fundamentals on how AC works.

Why they didn't just lock the windows out is beyond me. Stupid stickers mean nothing.

Burrard stairwell doors seem to no longer be alarmed. No more annoying buzzzzzzzzzz. re AC, they probably need to be able to be opened in case of fire. Not that it has been much of an issue this "summer", replaced with "does the heat really need to be on"?

Taking the Skytrain every day does lead to gear-grinding. Woman in seat in front of me brushing the back of her head. 15 minute+ phone calls. People who block the doors at busy stations. Leaning poll hoggers, non obese taking up 1.5 seats, backpacks, people who push against your back when you're waiting to let people off before getting on. Bikes in rush hour, sticky floors from spilled drinks (Translink seems to given up on that one) Urine smell in the Commercial stairwell after game nights.

And a couple of memorable one-offs. Being falsely accused of impropriety on a sardine packed MK-1. Note to self. there might be a better response to "Get your hand off my ass" than "Get your ass off my hand". Perhaps, "Excuse me, I didn't notice that my right hand holding my briefcase was touching your "ass", I'm to busy concentrating on holding on to this pole with my left hand with 8 other . I can't move, and hands normally hang at ass level".

And finally, a drunk man about my age who kept insisting that I give my seat to a woman half my age. She laughingly declined, but drunky wouldn't STFU. A memorable night, a couple of passengers in Boston uniforms running up the down escalator at Waterfront, boarding an outbound train that had to be taken out of service due to a "spill". I don't think it was a beverage. February 26 2011.

Well, that was cathartic. I just realized that this may not be 'on topic' for this thread, whatever it is... Faregates, tune in next year, I'm sure they'll grind off the few remaining gear teeth. 3 gates for Brentwood? That'll be fun.

[DKaz]

Be thankful it's a tap and go system and not a magnetic stripe system. Still, three fare gates would work at Lake City, not Brentwood.

[s211]

Originally Posted by Dave2

Burrard stairwell doors seem to no longer be alarmed. No more annoying buzzzzzzzzzz. re AC, they probably need to be able to be opened in case of fire. Not that it has been much of an issue this "summer", replaced with "does the heat really need to be on"?

Taking the Skytrain every day does lead to gear-grinding. Woman in seat in front of me brushing the back of her head. 15 minute+ phone calls. People who block the doors at busy stations. Leaning poll hoggers, non obese taking up 1.5 seats, backpacks, people who push against your back when you're waiting to let people off before getting on. Bikes in rush hour, sticky floors from spilled drinks (Translink seems to given up on that one) Urine smell in the Commercial stairwell after game nights.

And a couple of memorable one-offs. Being falsely accused of impropriety on a sardine packed MK-1. Note to self. there might be a better response to "Get your hand off my ass" than "Get your ass off my hand". Perhaps, "Excuse me, I didn't notice that my right hand holding my briefcase was touching your "ass", I'm to busy concentrating on holding on to this pole with my left hand with 8 other . I can't move, and hands normally hang at ass level".

And finally, a drunk man about my age who kept insisting that I give my seat to a woman half my age. She laughingly declined, but drunky wouldn't STFU. A memorable night, a couple of passengers in Boston uniforms running up the down escalator at Waterfront, boarding an outbound train that had to be taken out of service due to a "spill". I don't think it was a beverage. February 26 2011.

Well, that was cathartic. I just realized that this may not be 'on topic' for this thread, whatever it is... Faregates, tune in next year, I'm sure they'll grind off the few remaining gear teeth. 3 gates for Brentwood? That'll be fun.

Ugh. Exactly why public transit is a no-fly zone. Who wants to be brought down to the level of trogs and thugs? Why does the public in public transit always mean being sunk to the lowest common denominator?

[jlousa]

RFP issued for the Main St Staion upgrades. Nothing that we didn't already suspect. Completion date is set for May 2014

3 SCOPE OF WORK3.1 The proposed improvements and Scope of Work required for the Main Street SkyTrain Upgrade Project are detailed in the drawings provided in the Reference Documents. A summary of the scope of work is included below:

3.1.1 Eastside:

3.1.1.1 Remove the existing staircase and associated structure and landscaped plaza;
3.1.1.2 Provide required hoarding to facilitate the work;
3.1.1.3 Construct a new glazed station house, which includes:
a) new staircase to the platform level
b) new up escalator to the platform level
c) new elevator to the platform level
d) CRU space within the station house
e) bike storage facility within the station house
3.1.1.4 Provide for gating and Smartcards implementation; and
3.1.1.5 Include landscaping at the concourse level.

3.1.2 Platform:

3.1.2.1 Create a new platform level at east station house, which forms the roof of structures below to accommodate new escalator, stair and elevator;
3.1.2.2 Remove existing pavers and provide floor tiles;
3.1.2.3 Provide glazing on both the north and south sides of the station;
3.1.2.4 Remove existing chain link barrier as indicated on demolition drawings; and
3.1.2.5 Include all associated lighting design as indicated.

3.1.3 Westside:

3.1.3.1 Remove existing mezzanine level, including existing stair and escalator to platform and related structure;
3.1.3.2 Remove existing entrance and stairs from Terminal Avenue;
3.1.3.3 Remove existing Starbucks retail space, and related existing other structure under the mezzanine level;
3.1.3.4 Add one staircase from concourse to platform;
3.1.3.5 Add two escalators (one up and one down) from concourse to platform;
3.1.3.6 Provide a new entrance directly off west side of Main into station concourse providing a direct visual link between the vertical circulation to the platform level and the major bus offloading and loading point;
3.1.3.7 Provide a new wide plaza entrance off Terminal Avenue into station concourse providing a direct visual link between the vertical circulation to the platform level and activity on Terminal Avenue;
3.1.3.8 Provide for gating and Smartcards implementation;
3.1.3.9 Add new retail space to replace existing space taken for Main Street entrance; and
3.1.3.10 Include landscaping at the concourse level, particularly in the area of the plaza on Terminal Avenue

[st7860]

Originally Posted by jlousa

RFP issued for the Main St Staion upgrades. Nothing that we didn't already suspect. Completion date is set for May 2014

a glazed station house? wouldn't that be vulnerable to vandalism in that area?

[hollywoodnorth]

Originally Posted by jlousa

RFP issued for the Main St Staion upgrades. Nothing that we didn't already suspect. Completion date is set for May 2014

nice thanks for the post.

here she is for people >> http://www.translink.ca/~/media/Docu...058%20RFP.ashx

this is a project VERY over due and I'm happy to see it moving forward again.

[red-paladin]

Excellent!
I think there is also a thread for this already?

[WarrenC12]

I saw some actual fare gates being unloaded at Marine Drive Stn this morning on my way by.