Originally Posted by citywatch
Thanks for the pics, KOTH. I always wonder why a city like NY or chicago, or cities across the atlantic, can have bldgs or districts like the one shown in your pic but without as much of the grit. then again, they put trains below grade in such towns, while we can't manage to place much more than sewage lines down there.
I think you are very misguided. First of all, New York is the world capital for grit. Yes, it is an amazing city, but it is grimy and dirty beyond belief. Chicago spends tons of money cleaning its downtown core, yes, but beyond that, it becomes just as 'gritty' as any other city. Moreover, how do subways have anything to do with grit? If anything, (and I'm not saying its better to have a at-grade light rail train then a subway from a practicality and effectiveness standpoint) having an above ground train with trees, landscaping, new streets, and new sidewalks, would make an area less
Originally Posted by pesto
This is an area where having hopes too high will just lead to disappointment. I would guess that upscale shopping DT is a long way off.
Actually, what you should be saying is that having high end shopping on Broadway is a long way off. High end shopping in the rest of downtown is already here. Just walk down Spring, or 7th, and you will see half a dozen high-end botiques, from SkinGraft to Clave, to the new one next to Bottega Louie (which name I have forgotten).
In fact, I would say that high end shopping will be hitting Broadway soon, but not around where the Ross is going in. I would say more around where the Orpheum is, and where the Ace Hotel will be, for over there, I must say, it is poppin
. I mean, there are, what, four separate restaurants being built over there right now? Plus, a hotel? Not bad at all.