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Old Posted: Apr 20, 2011, 1:16 PM
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there is nothing downtown that really has the draw to pull in people on a regular basis and despite the new development, it's still kinda rundown. the only reason i have for going downtown is to go to the flying saucer, a huge pub.
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There just needs to be some more variety of stuff to do downtown. I wonder what the people that actually live down there do on a regular basis.
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Old Posted: Apr 24, 2011, 12:43 AM
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Just to show how much impact Discovery Green has had on downtown, heres a bunch of suburban Baptists that would never ever in a million years travel downtown, but yet, Discovery Green is so nice that it even attracted a giant group of them to do a dance thingy.

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The video may make you puke but just goes to show how much of a pull Disco Green has created to get people downtown.

So, if you can get some suburban Christians to get downtown than thats a start at least and it gets more people that would never leave the safety of their crap suburbs to go downtown to go downtown.
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I goto Houston to visit family there anywhere from 10-15 times a year, and I haven't had any reason to goto Downtown Houston for about 10 year now. And that was for when the new baseball stadium opened and we just drove there and back over to my sisters over by that huge church on Voss and Woodway. I don't get the impression that my family there ever really go downtown either.

In Austin however we are always downtown. I think Jam nailed it as to why we never go downtown in Houston when he said "Austin DT is the only game in town... Houston has so many other options." While in Houston we spend a ton of time down in the Post Oak area. Everything we need or want to do is there. The closest we ever really get is the area north of Rice or by M.D. Anderson which is where most of my family works.

Also does Houston's downtown have anything like the Town Lake Hike and Bike trail in Austin? I think that Town Lake and the trails is a big part of why the retail area of second is doing so well. I think it has had a lot more to do with it than the sharp rise in the downtown condo population. Just guesses. There probably is something like that in Houston, I'm just not as familiar with its downtown to know. If not a destination "Central Park" type place with lots of late afternoon and early evening foot and bike traffic is always good for creating retail and creating more before/after-office hours pedestrian traffic.
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^Yes, Buffalo Bayou has a trail in Sam Houston Park. It's right in downtown and runs for a few miles to the west.
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^Yes, Buffalo Bayou has a trail in Sam Houston Park. It's right in downtown and runs for a few miles to the west.
The trail roughly goes from West Downtown all the way to 610 at Woodway, approximately 5 miles. It's not continuous though, but it is for a large majority as it goes through the parks along Buffalo Bayou and finally connects to Memorial Park.

Best of all a nonprofit is donating $55 million to improve the parks and trails. http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...n/7425998.html
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Just to show how much impact Discovery Green has had on downtown, heres a bunch of suburban Baptists that would never ever in a million years travel downtown, but yet, Discovery Green is so nice that it even attracted a giant group of them to do a dance thingy.

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The video may make you puke but just goes to show how much of a pull Disco Green has created to get people downtown.

So, if you can get some suburban Christians to get downtown than thats a start at least and it gets more people that would never leave the safety of their crap suburbs to go downtown to go downtown.
i love discovery green. great park. i went there last thursday for a jazz concert. they are highlighting local musicians every thursday in april. the jazz show was nice. first band had a jazz guitar summit and the second band played the birth of cool. lots of people brought wine too. you know it is classy when people sneak in wine
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I goto Houston to visit family there anywhere from 10-15 times a year, and I haven't had any reason to goto Downtown Houston for about 10 year now. And that was for when the new baseball stadium opened and we just drove there and back over to my sisters over by that huge church on Voss and Woodway. I don't get the impression that my family there ever really go downtown either.

In Austin however we are always downtown. I think Jam nailed it as to why we never go downtown in Houston when he said "Austin DT is the only game in town... Houston has so many other options." While in Houston we spend a ton of time down in the Post Oak area. Everything we need or want to do is there. The closest we ever really get is the area north of Rice or by M.D. Anderson which is where most of my family works.

Also does Houston's downtown have anything like the Town Lake Hike and Bike trail in Austin? I think that Town Lake and the trails is a big part of why the retail area of second is doing so well. I think it has had a lot more to do with it than the sharp rise in the downtown condo population. Just guesses. There probably is something like that in Houston, I'm just not as familiar with its downtown to know. If not a destination "Central Park" type place with lots of late afternoon and early evening foot and bike traffic is always good for creating retail and creating more before/after-office hours pedestrian traffic.
I fully agree with this assessment. Houston's Downtown does have some things to do, but most Houstonians have either never been to Downtown or they only go for one very specific purpose like the Opera, Baseball Game, to get a Passport, etc., and then never return. City personality has a bit to do with it too... Houstonians, aren't very exploratory (at least not on foot or by bike) the way Austinites are. But most of all, people in Houston just don't think of Downtown as anything but a stuffy business place, and somewhere that many people have no reason to go.

I had this conversation with a co-worker the other day. She was looking for a specific gift for her husband, and had found the item on the Macy's website. She didn't order it, but started going around to different Macy's in her area (Spring, the Woodlands), of which there are several stores she checked. She even checked the Macy's in the Galleria and still couldn't find it. On the day she needed the gift (now too late to order it), I asked her if she had tried the Macy's in Downtown. She said "there's a Macy's store in Downtown? Well, I prefer shopping at the larger stores, not some sub-par setup". Somehow this woman had worked at UofH (like 5 mins from Downtown) for 6 years, and never knew of the place. She went during her lunch break, found the exact gift she was looking for, and then raved about it for the rest of the work week.

Not an uncommon event, mind you... Houstonians are just completely uneducated about their Downtown. Frankly, it intimidates many people. Whereas in cities like Austin or San Antonio, Downtown is a regular staple in the cities' culture.
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I fully agree with this assessment. Houston's Downtown does have some things to do, but most Houstonians have either never been to Downtown or they only go for one very specific purpose like the Opera, Baseball Game, to get a Passport, etc., and then never return. City personality has a bit to do with it too... Houstonians, aren't very exploratory (at least not on foot or by bike) the way Austinites are. But most of all, people in Houston just don't think of Downtown as anything but a stuffy business place, and somewhere that many people have no reason to go.

I had this conversation with a co-worker the other day. She was looking for a specific gift for her husband, and had found the item on the Macy's website. She didn't order it, but started going around to different Macy's in her area (Spring, the Woodlands), of which there are several stores she checked. She even checked the Macy's in the Galleria and still couldn't find it. On the day she needed the gift (now too late to order it), I asked her if she had tried the Macy's in Downtown. She said "there's a Macy's store in Downtown? Well, I prefer shopping at the larger stores, not some sub-par setup". Somehow this woman had worked at UofH (like 5 mins from Downtown) for 6 years, and never knew of the place. She went during her lunch break, found the exact gift she was looking for, and then raved about it for the rest of the work week.

Not an uncommon event, mind you... Houstonians are just completely uneducated about their Downtown. Frankly, it intimidates many people. Whereas in cities like Austin or San Antonio, Downtown is a regular staple in the cities' culture.

This is funny. A sub-par store. Man, she must have never seen that one ever before. I think that is the largest one in town. But see this is on Main street. If Houston could figure out how to get more streets downtown up to par with mainstreet things would be amazing.
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I'm really impressed that there is a big ass Macy's in Downtown Houston! That is awesome! I had no idea y'all had that sort of shopping downtown. I just assumed most people went to the Galleria for that sort of stuff.

Here in Austin they try to keep the downtown retail to be more locally owned stuff, but how great would it be to get a huge anchor like a huge Macy's to open up down on 2nd or on Congress? That would really take the booming downtown retail to a whole other level. They are opening a new 10,000 sq foot Urban Outfitters on 2nd street in the new W Hotel and Condo building right under where the new ACL Stage and TV show is. AMA is moving out of their current location to Laguna Gloria and Stacy has said he is going to try to find a large national AAA retail chain to fill the museums old location. That will be a 18,000 sqft retail store on Congress.
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turn the that CBD into more like a city center
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It was the flagship Foley's before Macy's bought them out a few years ago. It's a neat store but I think it needs some remodeling, also maybe it's just me but I think it smells kind of musty inside. It's been a while since I have been there.

Foley's were always nice though, even the little ones around Texas. College Station's is two levels.

Off topic, is the standalone old urban Sears in Midtown still open? That's another anachronism.
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My father grew up down the street from Billy Gibbons in Tanglewood and they were only a year apart in age and knew each other. I seem to remember him telling me that Billy's father used to play piano at that store downtown. I can't be sure but I think it was that store.
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interesting data http://www.brookings.edu/es/urban/ce...ownrebound.pdf

http://www.brookings.edu/up-front/po...ng-adults-frey

BTW - Did Houston ever have a large population downtown? Maybe it IS revitalized historically speaking....
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