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Old Posted Apr 21, 2011, 12:55 AM
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1375 Upper James and 16 -48 Stone Church Road East | ? | 2 x 30 fl | Proposed

Received this via email today...

"NOTICE OF NEIGHBOURHOOD INFORMATION MEETING

You are invited to attend a Neighbourhood Information Meeting regarding a mixed-use redevelopment that is being proposed for lands located at the south-east corner of Upper James Street and Stone Church Road. The details of the Meeting are as follows:

WHEN: Thursday April 28th, 2011
TIME: 7:00 to 9:00 pm
WHERE: Barton Stone Church, 21 Stone Church Road West

The purpose of the meeting is for the project team to provide information to the neighbourhood regarding the proposal and to obtain feedback that will assist in the further refinement of the project. The developers, land use planner, and the project architect will be in attendance, we intend to make a brief presentation and follow with a question and answer session to address questions or comments from neighbouring residents.

The lands subject to the redevelopment include 1375 Upper James and 16 -48 Stone Church Road East. The preliminary development concept is a grade level podium that will accommodate a range of commercial uses and two towers intended residential condominium dwelling units. Townhouses are proposed along the easterly limit as a transitional form of development. Parking demands will be met through a combination of underground and surface parking.

Should you not be able to attend the meeting or have any questions regarding the project, please contact the Land Use Planning Consultant, James Webb of WEBB Planning Consultants Inc., (905) 527-7526 or jwebb @webbplanning.ca

We look forward to speaking with you at the April 28th meeting."

Here is a copy of the rendering from KNY Architects that was attached:
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Old Posted Apr 21, 2011, 1:01 AM
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Old Posted Apr 21, 2011, 1:07 AM
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Looks awesome!

Just need to move it downtown...
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Old Posted Apr 21, 2011, 1:13 AM
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I too wish it was going to downtown instead. At least it is on the A-line (for what it is worth).



From map.hamilton.ca Quite a few properties were snapped up in the building footprint.
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Old Posted Apr 21, 2011, 1:23 AM
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Two 30 floor buildings at Upper James and Stone Church?
I highly doubt that will happen. Lucky if we get one 10 floor building there.
But if they are built, I will be able to see them a lot since I only live a few minutes from that location.
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Old Posted Apr 21, 2011, 10:52 AM
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who?

Does anyone know who the developer is?
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Old Posted Apr 21, 2011, 12:36 PM
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I hope this application, if successful, coincides with A-line rapid transit, or at least includes a grocery store as part of its podium retail. Otherwise, it's more or less a textbook case of "vertical sprawl." In fact, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the application is approved on the basis that it provides a guaranteed influx of freeway users for the city's otherwise underused ring-road network, and perhaps a captive customer base for the big-box chains that are destined to spring up on the so-called "airport" employment lands to the south. The whole prospect has something of a Mississauga ring to it.

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Old Posted Apr 21, 2011, 3:13 PM
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influx of freeway users for the city's otherwise underused ring-road network,
You have obviously not driven on it. It should have been built to 6 lanes and it is at the capacity it should have been in 10 more years.
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Old Posted Apr 21, 2011, 3:14 PM
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Is anyone planning to go there? I will be out of the country that day.
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Old Posted Apr 21, 2011, 3:58 PM
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You have obviously not driven on it. It should have been built to 6 lanes and it is at the capacity it should have been in 10 more years.
Indeed, proudly, I have not. I was under the impression, however, that the Red Hill expressway was underused; this site would give residents fairly proximate access to that route.
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The one good thing if this building goes through is that it will give some densities to the A-Line rapid transit corridor.
I think the B-Line could use more density along it's corridor outside of downtown.
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That's pretty awesome but the location kinda sucks. Still hope it happens though. It would be nice.
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That location is like here in Ottawa, random skyscrapers all over the place.

Looks nice, hope it gets built, too bad it's not in the lower city.
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Old Posted Apr 21, 2011, 10:55 PM
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I hope this application, if successful, coincides with A-line rapid transit, or at least includes a grocery store as part of its podium retail. Otherwise, it's more or less a textbook case of "vertical sprawl." In fact, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the application is approved on the basis that it provides a guaranteed influx of freeway users for the city's otherwise underused ring-road network, and perhaps a captive customer base for the big-box chains that are destined to spring up on the so-called "airport" employment lands to the south. The whole prospect has something of a Mississauga ring to it.
You obviously don't get around this city very much. That area is already built up and probably has more concentrated commercial activity than any other part of the city. A couple of years ago the city put a halt to issuing anymore commercial permits in that area. They don't need another grocery store in the area either, there's a huge Fortino's within walking distance.

In order to build this developement they will be demolishing a number homes that have been there for 50 or 60 years. This is not a sprawl developement. If anything it's infill. All of the chains are already located in the area. It is also one of the busiest intersections in the city. I hate driving in that area anytime during daylight hours.
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Old Posted Apr 22, 2011, 12:19 AM
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Sorry, the developer is called V&T Riccio Developments


(nothing seems to come up in a quick google search)
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Old Posted Apr 22, 2011, 12:37 AM
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http://www.varconconstruction.com/

http://www.varconconstruction.com/re...homes-complex/

Upper James and Stonechurch, Luxury Condominium Residences/Retail Commercial and Townhomes Complex

Located in Hamilton ON

Project Budget: $110 Million
Owner: A & R Riccio Developments.

A six acre site to accommodate two, 30 storey luxury residential buildings with approximately 30,000 square feet of commercial space on one level and two levels of underground parking. The development also includes thirteen 3 storey luxury townhomes.

Varcon will act as Construction Manager with construction slated for the summer of 2012.
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Old Posted Apr 22, 2011, 3:28 AM
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Thats a bonus, an out of town developer, and not one of the fly by night ones from this city.

Lets hope, they don't get discouraged by all the nonsense they will have to endure dealing with city hall. On the other hand this is also a chance for city hall to show that this city is open for business., hopefully they won't screw it up. We need more developements like this.
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Old Posted Apr 22, 2011, 4:12 AM
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You obviously don't get around this city very much. That area is already built up and probably has more concentrated commercial activity than any other part of the city. A couple of years ago the city put a halt to issuing anymore commercial permits in that area. They don't need another grocery store in the area either, there's a huge Fortino's within walking distance.

In order to build this developement they will be demolishing a number homes that have been there for 50 or 60 years. This is not a sprawl developement. If anything it's infill. All of the chains are already located in the area. It is also one of the busiest intersections in the city. I hate driving in that area anytime during daylight hours.
I know the area quite well, actually, and I can't imagine many people walking the kilometer that would be required to get to that Fortino's - along a pedestrian-hostile route like this, anyways. In fact, I'd say you'd be crazy to do so if you had the money to drive - which of course anyone who buys in this building would.

I think it's fair to say we have different perspectives on sprawl v. infill. Regardless of what you call it, I know from personal experience that it's a pretty miserable area for a pedestrian.
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I know the area quite well, actually, and I can't imagine many people walking the kilometer that would be required to get to that Fortino's - along a pedestrian-hostile route like this, anyways. In fact, I'd say you'd be crazy to do so if you had the money to drive - which of course anyone who buys in this building would.

I think it's fair to say we have different perspectives on sprawl v. infill. Regardless of what you call it, I know from personal experience that it's a pretty miserable area for a pedestrian.
They are rebuilding the roads and sidewalks between Stonechurch and Rymal starting in the next couple of weeks. As for it not being pedestrian friendly, there are sidewalks with a wide boulavard seperating them from the road. It's no worse than any downtown street. The traffic in the area is slowed by congestion most of the time during the day. I walk in the area all the time, the cars stay on the road and I stay on the sidewalk. I have never had a problem.
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They are rebuilding the roads and sidewalks between Stonechurch and Rymal starting in the next couple of weeks.
I'd be interesting in seeing whether/how the area changes for the better in terms of providing a less pedestrian-unfriendly environment.

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It's no worse than any downtown street.
Having lived downtown, I beg to differ - Main St. aside, obviously.

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walk in the area all the time, the cars stay on the road and I stay on the sidewalk. I have never had a problem.
More power to you - though, if pedestrian traffic is at all what I remember it being in summer 2008, you're something of an anomaly.
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