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Old Posted Aug 24, 2011, 1:31 AM
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First permit for residential tower at AY filed

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Atlantic Yards and Forest City CEO Bruce RatnerForest City Ratner has filed its first application with the Department of Buildings for its planned construction of a residential tower at Atlantic Yards, Brownstoner reported.

The permit seeks to build a 33-story, 368-unit tower at Flatbush Avenue and Dean Street, right next to the arena. Half of the building's units will be affordable housing. According to Brownstoner, it is not yet clear if the tower, designed by SHoP architects, will be prefrabricated. SHoP's website does not yet show any renderings for the site.
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Old Posted Aug 24, 2011, 1:36 AM
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Booooooo! to "affordable housing."
Explain yourself.
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Explain yourself.
"Affordable housing" = cheap materials and cheap design. Put it all in Staten Island or Yonkers.
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"Affordable housing" = cheap materials and cheap design. Put it all in Staten Island or Yonkers.
Wrong. Affordable housing means "normal" housing as opposed to luxury. It has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of material or design, it only has to deal with the size of the apartments and amenities provided. There is no reason for 'luxury' housing next to Atlantic Yards. In fact, I would argue that most recent 'luxury' apartments are not luxury at all, and are usually built with the intention of extracting as much rent money from residents as possible with no respect to the sensitivities of the area in question. Just look at the trash thrown up in battery park city and the upper west side below 72 on the river.
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"Affordable housing" = cheap materials and cheap design. Put it all in Staten Island or Yonkers.
Oh really?

The Brooklyner is all luxury:

cityrealty.com


Meanwhile, here is the Mercedes House:


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...where 20% of its units are affordable.


Maybe we need to put you and your infinite wisdom in Staten Island or Yonkers, too.
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Let's hope we don't get anything like the Brooklyner.
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I'm still waiting and hoping for "Miss Brooklyn" to get off the ground with these highrises.
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Old Posted Aug 25, 2011, 2:38 AM
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I'm still waiting and hoping for "Miss Brooklyn" to get off the ground with these highrises.
That will be on delay for a while, in the meantime we'll get the plaza.


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/19/ny...-shape.html?hp

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In seeking financial backing to begin construction of the towers, the company has arranged for $249 million in loans from investors in China through a government program that offers immigrants green cards in exchange for a $500,000 investment.

...An office tower planned for the area in front of the arena is on indefinite delay, because the company has been unable to secure a lead tenant. In its place, there will be a public plaza in front of the subway entrance and main entrance to the arena.
This tower will be on the SE side of the arena.
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You are correct. Although I hate that Miss Brooklyn is going to be on delay. At least maybe this will give Ratner some time to find enough tenants to make that building a respectable height.

When I look at the renderings of the highrises around the Barclays Center they look much taller than 322 feet.

Question: When everything is said and done do you think they will eventually construct the arena rooftop garden/park that was in Gehry's original design?
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So this is going to be building #2?.....

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I thought it was 3, but it could be 2.

http://www.observer.com/2011/08/fore...t-application/
If Bruce Ratner Builds It: Forest City Files DOB Application for First Apartment Tower

By Thornton McEnery 8/23

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According to Forest City Ratner, everything is moving ahead as planned. “The permits were filed as standard operating procedure as we move forward,” Director of Commercial & Residential Development MaryAnne Gilmartin said in a statement. “We are still designing both prefab and conventional alternatives for the first residential building at Atlantic Yards and are shooting for a year end groundbreaking. We hope to show renderings to the public during the 4th quarter of this year.”

Seems that this will be tower 2


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As developer Forest City Ratner continues construction on the project’s NBA arena in the hopes of moving the Nets there by Fall 2012, company officials confirmed today that SHoP Architects would design the 400-unit building slated to go up next door at Flatbush Avenue and Dean Street.
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http://www.brownstoner.com/blog/2011...tlantic-yards/

Forest City Still Mulling Modular Design for Atlantic Yards



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Atlantic Yards Report has a comprehensive rundown of the discussion at the latest Atlantic Yards District Service Cabinet meeting, where there was some talk about the first residential tower planned as part of the mega-project. Forest City Ratner employees who were present said a modular design is still being considered for the tower. An executive vice president at the firm, Bob Sanna, said he has a meeting scheduled with a labor rep about the possible modular build, and another Forest City Ratner executive, Jane Marshall, said it wasn’t clear that a modular build would necessarily result in fewer jobs.

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First tower timing

Marshall gave a fairly vague update on the first residential tower, which should have 400 units, half subsidized to be affordable to low-, moderate-, and middle-income households, with designs by SHoP, the firm that redid the arena exterior.

“We continue to be hard at work,” she said, “working with ESDC on compliance with the Design Guidelines.... Once we achieve that milestone, we would release that design.”

“We are costing out and doing our due diligence,” she said. “We hope to have something to report by the end of the year, and have the first residential building, in construction by the beg of the year.”
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Atlantic Yards Brooklyn tower render





November 17, 2011, 12:16 pm
Design Unveiled for Tower at Atlantic Yards
By CHARLES V. BAGLI


The developer Bruce C. Ratner unveiled the design Thursday morning for the world’s tallest prefabricated steel structure, a 32-story residential building at the corner of Flatbush Avenue and Dean Street in the $4.9 billion Atlantic Yards project.

The 350-unit building uses rectangular shapes, colors and glass to break up the mass of the structure, which would sit snugly up against Barclays Center, the new arena of the Nets basketball team that is scheduled to open in September 2012. Mr. Ratner, chief executive of Forest City Ratner, said that prefabrication or modular construction could save time and cut construction costs by as much as 25 percent. Fourteen other residential buildings would be built at Atlantic Yards using the same technology.

Forest City Ratner is also negotiating a labor agreement with construction unions, which have supported Atlantic Yards, but could end up with fewer jobs and lower wages for some workers if the project goes forward.

Mr. Ratner said Thursday that he hoped to begin construction early next year. But the start date has been a moving target for more than a year now. The developer ultimately may instead decide to build the first tower conventionally. But his company has now invested two years in studying modular construction, a technology that has existed for decades, but is largely untested at this height. The world’s tallest modular building is a 25-story dormitory in Wolverhampton, England, that was built in 2010 in fewer than 12 months.

In New York City, the School Construction Authority has used the technology to build classrooms, and Capsys, a modular builder based at the Brooklyn Navy Yard, has built prefabricated, steel-frame housing up to seven stories tall in Brooklyn and on Long Island.

Mr. Ratner said that 60 percent of the construction would take place in a factory, where about 1,000 steel-frame modules would be built and outfitted with electric and plumbing lines, kitchens and bathrooms, while the construction site is excavated. The modules would be taken to the site, lifted into place by crane and bolted together. Steel bracing would rise with the stacked modules.

The challenge for developers, architects and engineers in building taller modular buildings has been to design an economical bracing system that would protect the structure from wind shear and seismic forces. The developer is working with SHoP Architects, Arup structural engineers and XSite Modular. “If anybody can crack the code,” Mr. Ratner said, “this group can.”

But he is also trying to work out an agreement with the construction unions at a project that once promised upwards of 17,000 jobs. Under current wage scales, union workers earn less in a factory than they do on site. A carpenter, for instance, earns $85 an hour in wages and benefits at a construction site, compared with $35 in a factory setting. “We are in the process of attempting to reach an agreement that will work for the building trades and Forest City in an effort to create permanent employment,” said Gary LaBarbera, president of the Building and Construction Trades Council of Greater New York.
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tdawg, please provide a link to the originating website!!

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from the design of the arena in the rendering it appears that no tower will be built in place of the Miss Brooklyn tower from a few years ago
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from the design of the arena in the rendering it appears that no tower will be built in place of the Miss Brooklyn tower from a few years ago
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...tlantic-yards/
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SEX! Thank god for that rendering, now I can actually visualize how the towers will interact with the Barclays Center as designed.
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from the design of the arena in the rendering it appears that no tower will be built in place of the Miss Brooklyn tower from a few years ago
The Miss Brooklyn tower site remains, and will function as a temporary plaza adjacent to Barclays Center until construction commences.
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Another look at the renderings from the Times...
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...tlantic-yards/








And another image from the Wall Street Journal...
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...googlenews_wsj

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Low-cost construction set for Atlantic Yards towers


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Developer Bruce Ratner said he plans to use prefabricated steel to build the 15 apartment towers slated to rise at Atlantic Yards in Brooklyn because the method could shave about 20% off construction costs. The first apartment house, a 32-story, 350-unit residential building at the corner of Flatbush Avenue and Dean Street, will be the world's tallest prefabricated steel structure. Construction is slated to begin next year.

- “At this point we are pursing the pre-fabricated model,” said Mr. Ratner, CEO of Forest City, adding the company has been working on this approach for over two years. “We are focused on this model.” Union officials said they hope to strike a deal with the developer. “We are in the process of attempting to reach an agreement on modular construction that will work for the building trades and Forest City in an effort to create permanent employment opportunities for our members on the residential component of the Atlantic Yards development,” said Gary LaBarbera, President of the Building and Construction Trades Council, in a statement.

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