Originally Posted by Wharn
I like the Grand Boulevard idea. It would be expensive to implement but since Wellington Road already looks sprawly and shitty, we really have nothing to lose from a little expropriation and expansion. Something is needed to improve traffic movement into and out of the core, for both motorists and transit users (Ever tried riding the 13 Wellington from Masonville to White Oaks? It sucks. I can get across the same distance in Toronto on the 25 Don Mills in about 20% less time).
The slow buses could be solved tomorrow for Wellington. Have express routes that stop only at major intersections/places of interest. White Oaks, Vic Hospital, Horton, Queen & Richmond, Oxford, UWO, Maisonville. Rinse and Repeat of other routes. Why the LTC sits with its thump up its ass, and talks of adding milk bus runs to Lambeth, yet neglecting over capacity routes that could have express buses is idiotic. As bad a Via Fail!
I'm around Vic hospital luckily my whole time at UWO I only had to take the 13 Wellington to UWO once. But holy hell 45+ minutes to get to a place that I can drive to in 15?! Doesn't help around UWO and downtown the streets are less had 100 metres away with students getting on.off every stop, Express route cuts that out and gets people around London quickly
Originally Posted by haljackey
Making Wellington a 6-lane road from the 401 to the core is a good comprimise. A lot of the work has already been done (can easily be 6-laned from 401 to Baseline and Thames River to Horton).
-In addition, the bridge over the Thames River is approaching the end of it's design life, or at least to my knowledge. Building a new, wider bridge like the Render shows can be done.
Just two major issues. The route between Baseline and the river is narrow and has two sharpish curves. Additional right of way would need to be purchased and those curves straightened out. The CN underpass is tight as well and only has 4 lanes. If Wellington is to continue 6-laned past Horton this needs to be expanded/rebuilt and it will be expensive.
The most frustrating thing is that converting Wellington to 6 -lane grand boulevard isn't some abstract idea, that's a what if. It's something the city actually
had design plans for that took into account ROW requirements and expropriation needs. This was in the late 1980's too soo its not some ancient plan. I didn't know about it myself until I saw the plans at UWO library, that give a layout from Horton to Baseline.
The widening was apart of a grand plan to widen Wellington, extend Colbourne across the Thames and meet Wellington at the sharp curve. Colbourne would be built to hand traffic while Wellington Thames bridge was re-built.
Ultimately the city has these grand visions of how London should/ought to be, yet doesn't have the balls to implement them if any special interest or anyone complains. Hopefully it does something useful for a change!