PHILADELPHIA | 2116 Chestnut St. | 34 FL - Page 5

hammersklavier · #81 Posted: **Jan 20, 2012, 8:10 PM**

When steel goes up...

summersm343 · #82 Posted: **Jan 20, 2012, 8:22 PM**

Digging a hole is not considered construction. We can move it to under construction when the foundation work begins.

Thoroughbred · #83 Posted: **Jan 21, 2012, 10:47 AM**

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Originally Posted by hammersklavier

When steel goes up...

It's a concrete structure, however...

Seriously, my understanding is that the project is still not fully financed...Hopefully, it does soon; otherwise, could come to a hault after caissons...

JorgeGeorgy · #84 Posted: **Jan 24, 2012, 4:32 PM**

According to the Buck Company's press releases, it's fully financed.

hammersklavier · #85 Posted: **Jan 24, 2012, 4:57 PM**

I'll move it to Under Construction when the tower crane goes up. Okay?

Pennsgrant · #86 Posted: **Jan 24, 2012, 11:13 PM**

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According to the Buck Company's press releases, it's fully financed.

Rode by today and there appears to be no letdown in sight. They are on a mission.

summersm343 · #87 Posted: **Jan 25, 2012, 12:43 AM**

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Rode by today and there appears to be no letdown in sight. They are on a mission.

Great news

JorgeGeorgy · #88 Posted: **Jan 26, 2012, 6:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by Pennsgrant

Rode by today and there appears to be no letdown in sight. They are on a mission.

The good weather is moving this sucker along.

summersm343 · #89 Posted: **Jan 26, 2012, 7:42 PM**

Can someone post a picture of what is going on? Thanks

bryson662001 · #90 Posted: **Jan 27, 2012, 9:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

Can someone post a picture of what is going on? Thanks

I went past today.
It looks like they are still digging and of course you know the old building is completely gone. It's hard to get a detailed look as you drive past because they have those burlap screens along the street.

bryson662001 · #91 Posted: **Jan 28, 2012, 7:48 PM**

In order to get a picture I would have to try to find a parking spot and go in on foot. I don't think there is anything there now that justifies all that effort. When the concrete trucks arrive I’ll get a picture and then we can move this thread.

summersm343 · #92 Posted: **Jan 29, 2012, 12:56 AM**

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Originally Posted by bryson662001

In order to get a picture I would have to try to find a parking spot and go in on foot. I don't think there is anything there now that justifies all that effort. When the concrete trucks arrive I’ll get a picture and then we can move this thread.

Okay sounds good, thanks bryson

PhiLaw · #93 Posted: **Jan 29, 2012, 9:50 PM**

[IMG]http://www.flickr.com/photos/73776101@N05/6784931917/[IMG]

PhiLaw · #94 Posted: **Jan 29, 2012, 9:52 PM**

[IMG]http://www.flickr.com/photos/73776101@N05/6784931785/[IMG]

PhiLaw · #95 Posted: **Jan 29, 2012, 9:53 PM**

[IMG]http://www.flickr.com/photos/73776101@N05/6784931661/[IMG]

shakman · #96 Posted: **Jan 30, 2012, 12:51 AM**

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[IMG]http://www.flickr.com/photos/73776101@N05/6784931785/[IMG]

It appears the installation of the soldier piles has commenced. Nice.

summersm343 · #97 Posted: **Jan 30, 2012, 2:45 AM**

Thanks PhilLaw. So happy that ugly medical center is gone

JorgeGeorgy · #98 Posted: **Jan 30, 2012, 3:08 PM**

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Thanks PhilLaw. So happy that ugly medical center is gone

I'm not sure that the parking deck for the tower is going to be much of a ground level improvement. Shame the economics don't justify digging a below ground garage - i.e. Society Hill Towers or 1706 Rittenhouse.

Insoluble · #99 Posted: **Jan 30, 2012, 6:02 PM**

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I'm not sure that the parking deck for the tower is going to be much of a ground level improvement. Shame the economics don't justify digging a below ground garage - i.e. Society Hill Towers or 1706 Rittenhouse.

I hear what you're saying and agree that a sunken garage would have been better, but 1706 Ritt isn't really the best example to bring up for good ground level presence. It presents a fairly solid wall to 17th street that isn't really any better than a ground floor garage. I think a garage podium isn't all that bad so long as it's done well with active uses fronting the street.

JorgeGeorgy · #**100** Posted: **Jan 30, 2012, 8:29 PM**

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I hear what you're saying and agree that a sunken garage would have been better, but 1706 Ritt isn't really the best example to bring up for good ground level presence. It presents a fairly solid wall to 17th street that isn't really any better than a ground floor garage. I think a garage podium isn't all that bad so long as it's done well with active uses fronting the street.

I agree that 1706 is not the best example.

In DC and NYC, also Chicago (for the most part), parking is below ground and the street level environment at development projects is generally better. The bohemoth parking deck at 800 Walnut, beneath Wills Eye Hospital and the pending U Penn Medical tower, is a particularly bad deck. The tenants there, a bank, a 7-11 and a Quiznos, reflect the dreary environment.

Philly has a lot of decks - several along West Market St., under the St. James at 7th & Walnut, at 1835 Rittenhouse Square, along the 900 block of Chestnut St and the 1200 block of Walnut St., etc., etc. Hopefully, Philly development economics will one day support below ground lots.