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Old Posted Dec 22, 2011, 3:42 PM
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Alberta has long been a place that drew inter-provincial migration, but now it is also starting to attract immigration due to the opportunities for employment.
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Old Posted Dec 22, 2011, 3:45 PM
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This obsession that some people here have with overtaking other areas of the country in population is really bizarre...
In the context of bill C-20, the "obsession" becomes a little less bizarre.... and so do any Federal payments... which are based on population.
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Will equalization payments start to pollute this thread as well?

Christ all fuggin mighty, it is so damned tiresome.
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Will equalization payments start to pollute this thread as well?

Christ all fuggin mighty, it is so damned tiresome.
It's almost as if it's an important issue to a lot of people or something.

Although it's pretty off-topic, doesn't economics play a far greater role than population in the formula?
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Anyway, enjoy the numbers, explore the analysis, and remember as always my {insert city name here} is always better than your {insert city name here}.
My Saint-Pierre-de-Véronne-à-Pike-River is always better than your Saint-Pierre-de-Véronne-à-Pike-River?
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When are city pop est coming out??
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Old Posted Dec 22, 2011, 9:46 PM
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Will equalization payments start to pollute this thread as well?

Christ all fuggin mighty, it is so damned tiresome.
Not unless you insist on talking about it.... I made no reference to that (only you have) - either directly or indirectly since the fastest growing provinces don't qualify for equalization.... social transfers are separate from equalization payments.
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Fine I'll go first....

Toronto 5,841,500
Montreal 3,898,500
Vancouver 2,449,500
Calgary 1,268,000
Ottawa 1,253,500
Edmonton 1,196,500
Winnipeg 766,500
Quebec city 765,500
Hamilton 747,500
Kitchener-Cambridge-Waterloo 498,500
London 496,500
Halifax 410,000
St. Catharines-Niagara 405,500
Oshawa 368,500
Victoria 363,500
Windsor 329,500
Saskatoon 274,000
Regina 221,000
Sherbrooke 200,000
St John's 195,000
Barrie 192,000
Kelowna 181,000
Abbotsford-Mission 177,500
Kingston 165,000
Greater Sudbury 165,000
Saguenay 153,000
Trois-Rivières 148,000
Brantford 140,500
Guelph 140,000
Moncton 139,500
Saint John 129,000
Thunder Bay 127,000
Peterborough 121,500

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Old Posted Dec 22, 2011, 10:36 PM
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^^ link please?
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No link I am taking a guess
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This was on the saskatoon construction page 2

The city estimates that its at 234,000

http://www.saskatoon.ca/DEPARTMENTS/...rojection.aspx


Still waiting on regina
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This was on the saskatoon construction page 2

The city estimates that its at 234,000

http://www.saskatoon.ca/DEPARTMENTS/...rojection.aspx


Still waiting on regina
The CMA is definitely higher though. I think it's actually really close to the number D-dog gave.

Regina is around D-dog's figure as well (for the CMA), city is probably about 200,000 now.
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Fine I'll go first....

Toronto 5,841,500
Montreal 3,898,500
Vancouver 2,449,500
Calgary 1,268,000
Ottawa 1,253,500
Edmonton 1,196,500
Winnipeg 766,500
Quebec city 765,500
Hamilton 747,500
Kitchener-Cambridge-Waterloo 498,500
London 496,500
Halifax 410,000
St. Catharines-Niagara 405,500
Oshawa 368,500
Victoria 363,500
Windsor 329,500
Saskatoon 274,000
Regina 221,000
Sherbrooke 200,000
St John's 195,000
Barrie 192,000
Kelowna 181,000
Abbotsford-Mission 177,500
Kingston 165,000
Greater Sudbury 165,000
Saguenay 153,000
Trois-Rivières 148,000
Brantford 140,500
Guelph 140,000
Moncton 139,500
Saint John 129,000
Thunder Bay 127,000
Peterborough 121,500

Montréal is already more than 3 900 000
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.... and so do any Federal payments... which are based on population.
The main reason why payments are based on population is that the need for money increases as the population grows. On balance it's certainly not a given that service levels, or the quality of infrastructure improve as the population increases.

In many cases service levels seem to be worse in rapidly-growing areas because infrastructure doesn't keep up. I'm not sure Ontario is going to be such a great place if it really does hit 20 million or 30 million inhabitants. Toronto already has very long commutes for example. A place like Alberta that lives off of natural resources might not be better off with a large population since the revenues from natural resources are largely fixed and determined by the larger world economy.

I think this sentiment about how wonderful it is to have a rapidly-growing population dates back to past decades when Canada was an underpopulated backwater country. In the future, rapid population growth might not be very desirable. It is already undesirable in most parts of the world.
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This obsession that some people here have with overtaking other areas of the country in population is really bizarre...
It's not really bizarre, just typical human nature. Any time you can measure and compare something, it automatically brings out a competitive streak.
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2011, 4:21 AM
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What is perhaps a little bizarre is what happens in the US when cities are unhappy with the Census Bureau population stats... they sue the Bureau, because they want the federal funds they would get with a higher figure!
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I wonder how close the GTA is to 7 million, usually runs 1 Million ahead of CMA.

CMA 5.8 mil
GTA 6.8 mil ? Perhaps?
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Montréal is already more than 3 900 000
Like I said it's a guess until the official ones come out it's as good a guess as yours!
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Montréal is already more than 3 900 000
I thought we had (unofficially) reached 4,000 000?
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I thought we had (unofficially) reached 4,000 000?
yes something between 3 960 000 and 4 050 000, it's still unofficially but febuary 3rd we will know more about it

Montreal is still bigger than the whole Alberta and that is official!
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