Denver Development Etceteras Thread #5 - Page 107

bunt_q · #**2121** Posted: **Aug 1, 2012, 5:09 PM**

Baron Von Haus-Wong

rds70 · #**2122** Posted: **Aug 3, 2012, 3:06 AM**

A building permit has been submitted for the Balfor senior housing project at 15th and Little Raven. 203 units.

docroc · #**2123** Posted: **Aug 3, 2012, 5:42 PM**

I was just in Stockholm - which refers to one of its terminal-related complexes as SkyCity. Also fascinating to see the highway-oriented development taking place along the main route to the airport from the city . . . seems a bit more Americanesque than European as far as development goes . . .

At any rate, it's interesting to follow how Adams County is now weighing in on the Aerotopolis proposal of the current city administration.

It seems to me that we have created two rather uninspiring and "still in progress" nodes out at DIA already - Gateway near I-70 and the Tower Road collection of hotels in the sticks. If we were to advance aviation-related development - why not focus on those two districts and make them all they can be?

I could really see them morphing into key airport-related hubs with state of the art facilities and development - rather than the ho-hum anywhere USA suburbia office parks that they are today. Why not let them become the Aerotopolis centerpieces of DIA?

bunt_q · #**2124** Posted: **Aug 3, 2012, 6:09 PM**

I think because the aerotropolis as-envisioned is more of the light industrial, manufacturing, cargo, warehousing sort... The just as important but less glitzy stuff.

By the way, most new European development is somewhat Americanesque. Americans don't realize that because when we go on vacation we typically stay in the areas that were substantially built out 100+ years ago. The majority of new development sucks, just like 80%+ of new development in the U.S. sucks.

DownhomeDenver · #**2125** Posted: **Aug 3, 2012, 7:54 PM**

Buildings are coming down at 1490 Delgany.

sashyenka · #**2126** Posted: **Aug 4, 2012, 6:45 AM**

It's true, about development in Europe. Once you get outside of the center of the cities, pretty much anywhere in western Europe has crappy development that tends to be just as single-use as our suburbs. The difference in most places is that you see apartments dotted around the middle of nowhere instead of single-family homes, but that hardly makes it better. Eastern Europe is similar, but worse because what was built out in the communist era was on a larger, even more foreboding scale. Or at least that is the case in Russia, where even now, they expand the large apartment "pods" without so much as a thought as to how people will walk the 2 kilometers from their pod to the metro, god forbid they should have to take it. I have no firsthand experience in eastern Europe outside of Russia.

CPVLIVE · #**2127** Posted: **Aug 4, 2012, 11:28 PM**

I snapped a couple shots of the destruction at 1490 Degany -

From Wewatta looking towards Delgany where the old theater stood

DaVita's lighting scheme

Wizened Variations · #**2128** Posted: **Aug 5, 2012, 4:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by bunt_q

I think because the aerotropolis as-envisioned is more of the light industrial, manufacturing, cargo, warehousing sort... The just as important but less glitzy stuff.

By the way, most new European development is somewhat Americanesque. Americans don't realize that because when we go on vacation we typically stay in the areas that were substantially built out 100+ years ago. The majority of new development sucks, just like 80%+ of new development in the U.S. sucks.

Agreed. Automobile to the door for "more."

And yet-

Unlike in much of the US, metro areas in Western Europe grew into areas with many existing villages, so in Greater London or Paris, for example, there are hundreds of villages that are centuries old, linked for a century or more by rail to one or rail rings surrounding central cities (also less transit rail was ripped up after WWII because people there had lost the wealth necessary to own autos and finance freeway construction until the 1980s.)

The value of, and, the availability of land, for "Aeotropolii" in much of Europe, IMO, forces such developments to be more compact and less real estate development driven, than developements like DIA. A great example of this compactness is the new Berlin Airport

I grant that if the land were available in much of Europe (outside of the old borders of the USSR) developments would be far more real estate driven- with the caveate that the power brokers were be politicians, rather than those with the election money such as power brokers (real estate developers) in the US.

Chucolo · #**2129** Posted: **Aug 5, 2012, 8:17 PM**

Just wondering if Ruth's Chris' decision to open a restaurant at 15th and California might mean that the Target/Makovsky redevelopment plan might be percolating a little more actively.

rds70 · #**2130** Posted: **Aug 6, 2012, 4:55 AM**

A building permit has been submitted for a 4 story, 43 unit apartment building at Washington Street and Speer Boulevard. It was originally planned as condos, but the same exterior design will be used.

Here is a rendering:

sashyenka · #**2131** Posted: **Aug 6, 2012, 4:56 AM**

I really like what they've done with the lighting there, I'll have to go check it out in person.

riverfrontmark · #**2132** Posted: **Aug 7, 2012, 3:37 PM**

renderings for the new Sprouts (Sunflower) Market on East Colfax are here:
http://g.virbcdn.com/_f/files/73/Fil...lans1_7pdf.pdf

PLANSIT · #**2133** Posted: **Aug 7, 2012, 4:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by riverfrontmark

renderings for the new Sprouts (Sunflower) Market on East Colfax are here:
http://g.virbcdn.com/_f/files/73/Fil...lans1_7pdf.pdf

Hmm, I wish their was more emphasis on the Colfax entrance.

DownhomeDenver · #**2134** Posted: **Aug 7, 2012, 4:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by PLANSIT

Hmm, I wish their was more emphasis on the Colfax entrance.

I really wish there couldve been some apartments above. But, oh well, guess we can only hope for so much!

EngiNerd · #**2135** Posted: **Aug 7, 2012, 4:48 PM**

At least the parking lot is completely in the back off of Colfax and for a good portion of Garfield, unlike say Argonauts.

wong21fr · #**2136** Posted: **Aug 7, 2012, 5:24 PM**

Anyone remember the old proposal for a condo project on a parcel adjacent to the Botanic Gardens at around 11th & Gaylord Street?

Look at what I found:

DAE Construction

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Project Description

The project is an urban new for rent apartment development in the Capital Hill area of Denver. The project consists of 200 luxury rental units with amenity and exercise areas. The building will be constructed as concrete frame structure with masonry exterior and high end finishes. The expected start date is 3rd quarter 2013.

rds70 · #**2137** Posted: **Aug 7, 2012, 7:29 PM**

A couple of juicy rumors I heard today:

A grocery store (Trader Joes?) is looking to redevelop the old Qwest building at 7th and Logan. It would likely be a mixed use building with residential.

Also, there is a proposal for a Hyatt House/Hyatt Place dual hotel on the parking lot at 15th and California next to Bubba Grump. It may be in the 25-30 story range.

wong21fr · #**2138** Posted: **Aug 7, 2012, 7:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by rds70

A grocery store (Trader Joes?) is looking to redevelop the old Qwest building at 7th and Logan. It would likely be a mixed use building with residential.

Also, there is a proposal for a Hyatt House/Hyatt Place dual hotel on the parking lot at 15th and California next to Bubba Grump. It may be in the 25-30 story range.

Very juicy. I saw a building plan review case pop up for that grocery store, though I didn't think that it was going to be a redevelopment but rather a new build.

RDS, regarding the Balfour senior housing project. Has there been a new site plan submitted since they lopped fifty units off of the old Cosmopolitan Club proposal? It would be nice to see what changes were made.

Fritzdude · #**2139** Posted: **Aug 7, 2012, 7:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by rds70

A couple of juicy rumors I heard today:

A grocery store (Trader Joes?) is looking to redevelop the old Qwest building at 7th and Logan. It would likely be a mixed use building with residential.

Also, there is a proposal for a Hyatt House/Hyatt Place dual hotel on the parking lot at 15th and California next to Bubba Grump. It may be in the 25-30 story range.

Wow.. the Hyatt House would do wonders for that section of 15th and California. Isn't there also speculation about the Urban Target going across the street where the urban garden is currently located? And the proposed office complex just one block south on the same lot as the Pavillion Center? Assuming all these come to pass, this stretch of 15th will be completely different in a few years.

fleury · #**2140** Posted: **Aug 7, 2012, 8:04 PM**

Some good news, looks like the high rise apartment building at 18th and Arapahoe is getting a full renovation with street level retail and new skin...looks to be ~ 200 units. Also, as mentioned earlier the one city block development in Uptown is fenced off and looks like construction is in full swing, the photo below shows the excavation (sorry for the poor quality - taken from my car):

2300 Walnut is also progressing...the hole is deeper than i expected! Looks like half the site has underground parking:

Last but not least AMLI Riverfront at 20th and little raven has been making progress...looks like they've begun pouring their first bit of concrete on site.

Again sorry for the bad quality...didn't have time to take good pics but figured its been quiet in here lately! I work downtown and it seems like we are building a new city...there is construction everywhere! Especially love the new face of lower highlands.