Denver Development Etceteras Thread #5 - Page 72

rds70 · #**1421** Posted: **Jun 1, 2012, 4:18 AM**

Here is a small apartment building planned in Arapahoe Square. The 12 unit building will be located at the northwest corner of 21st and Curtis Streets. It is being developed by the same company that built the townhomes across the street a few years ago. Construction to begin later this summer.

sphinx88844 · #**1422** Posted: **Jun 1, 2012, 4:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by bunt_q

Going to have to disagree with both of you. As far as I'm concerned, the most attractive building in LoDo is a newish gray brick structure. This proposal is a gray-ish brick building. Could be very nice. It doesn't take a whole lot of ornamentation to make a brick building acceptable. Komerebi was just another bland glass box that would have looked like absolute crap in a decade. (Like the MCA will.)

I agree with you about MCA...that really didn't turn out as great as the renderings promised it would. The grey should be a nice contrast to the other materials that are used in the area.

Brainpathology · #**1423** Posted: **Jun 1, 2012, 1:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by bunt_q

(Like the MCA will.)

Does.

cona · #**1424** Posted: **Jun 1, 2012, 2:18 PM**

The developer that is constructing the apartments on the 2800 block of Zuni is nearly finished with demolishing the existing buildings. Yeah!

Does anyone seen a rendering?

LAM · #**1425** Posted: **Jun 1, 2012, 6:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by Virtual Urban Vision

The 1490 Delgany apartment project is FUGLY! This area is so energized and historic it would be a shame to build such a POS. Denver and the CPV deserve better, I doubt any architectural review board would approve this too bad the CPV doesn't have one. :-(

For such strong words, is there something that you would prefer to see? Is it that you want to see a(n) historicist building? To me, it looks pretty much like everything else going up in lodo.

wong21fr · #**1426** Posted: **Jun 1, 2012, 7:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by bunt_q

Going to have to disagree with both of you. As far as I'm concerned, the most attractive building in LoDo is a newish gray brick structure. This proposal is a gray-ish brick building. Could be very nice. It doesn't take a whole lot of ornamentation to make a brick building acceptable. Komerebi was just another bland glass box that would have looked like absolute crap in a decade. (Like the MCA will.)

I disagree that the MCA will look like 'absolute crap' within a decade. Sure, it's just another glass box. But, it's the ONLY glass box in that area. With 1490 Delgany being a nice bit of non-brown brick and contemporary styling it won't take away from the MCA as Komerebi would have.

Though this comes from a guy who doesn't find all brutalist structures to be terrible. So, take it with a grain of salt.

CharlesCO · #**1427** Posted: **Jun 1, 2012, 10:31 PM**

The bigger travesty about the MCA is simply the fact that it's not near all the other art museums (DAM, Hamilton wing, and Clyfford Still Museum) in the Golden Triangle.

Cirrus · #**1428** Posted: **Jun 1, 2012, 11:50 PM**

It's better this way. Single-use ghettos are bad. It's better to spread civic spaces around so each neighborhood has 1 or 2.

Cirrus · #**1429** Posted: **Jun 1, 2012, 11:52 PM**

So, is anyone going to Ken's Union Station tour tomorrow? One of my DC planner/blogger friends is going to be in Denver and is planning to attend.

DenverInfill · #**1430** Posted: **Jun 2, 2012, 1:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by Cirrus

So, is anyone going to Ken's Union Station tour tomorrow? One of my DC planner/blogger friends is going to be in Denver and is planning to attend.

Oh that's cool!

DenverInfill · #**1431** Posted: **Jun 2, 2012, 1:35 AM**

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Originally Posted by Cirrus

It's better this way. Single-use ghettos are bad. It's better to spread civic spaces around so each neighborhood has 1 or 2.

I totally agree. Some of you may recall that I proposed on my blog when there was all the controversy over where to put the new Colorado History Museum, that it could go at the corner of Larimer and Speer on property already owned by the state, and in an area that was NOT Civic Center yet still readily accessible to the masses:

http://denverinfill.com/blog/2008/02...hat-about.html

The state decided to keep the new History Colorado Center in the Civic Center area anyway, as was expected. However, I would argue that with the HCC staying in Civic Center, and with all of the other existing cultural assets in the district (DAM, DPL, etc.), and the addition of the Clyfford Still Museum and the cultural component of the new Ralph Carr Colorado Justice Center, that we now have more than enough cultural facilities in the Civic Center area. Adding any more to Civic Center will result in a diminishing return. Putting the MCA there would have been a mistake. I'm glad in went into LoDo.

In the future, I'm hopeful we will develop a "Technology Museum"-type institution, plus we also need a separate Denver History Museum focused on just the city proper. Both of those could serve an anchors in a place like, say, Arapahoe Square or Ballpark. Spread the cultural wealth!

Riverfront Park · #**1432** Posted: **Jun 2, 2012, 3:37 AM**

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Originally Posted by Virtual Urban Vision

The 1490 Delgany apartment project is FUGLY! This area is so energized and historic it would be a shame to build such a POS. Denver and the CPV deserve better, I doubt any architectural review board would approve this too bad the CPV doesn't have one. :-(

Actually, the CPV has a design review border. I am on it! This building isn't in the CPV, so it's not subject to our review, but I like the design. A lot.

Paulopolis · #**1433** Posted: **Jun 2, 2012, 8:57 AM**

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Originally Posted by DenverInfill

In the future, I'm hopeful we will develop a "Technology Museum"-type institution, plus we also need a separate Denver History Museum focused on just the city proper. Both of those could serve an anchors in a place like, say, Arapahoe Square or Ballpark. Spread the cultural wealth!

Ken, what do you mean by "technology museum/institution?" You've piqued my interest. I'm still hoping for a beer museum somewhere in Arapahoe Square!

wong21fr · #**1434** Posted: **Jun 2, 2012, 6:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by Paulopolis

Ken, what do you mean by "technology museum/institution?" You've piqued my interest. I'm still hoping for a beer museum somewhere in Arapahoe Square!

Like this:

http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/

or this:

http://www.msichicago.org/

I'd think a beer museum would be pretty great. Though I'd like to put it near the Tivoli on the Auraria Campus to capitalize on that buildings brewing history. Maybe establish a Center for Craft Brewing at Metro State.

bunt_q · #**1435** Posted: **Jun 2, 2012, 7:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by wong21fr

Though I'd like to put it near the Tivoli on the Auraria Campus to capitalize on that buildings brewing history. Maybe establish a Center for Craft Brewing at Metro State.

Such a thing would make more sense in Boulder. At CU. The flagship school. Boulder Brewery was the state's first craft brewery, after all...

wong21fr · #**1436** Posted: **Jun 2, 2012, 8:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by bunt_q

Such a thing would make more sense in Boulder. At CU. The flagship school. Boulder Brewery was the state's first craft brewery, after all...

Does CU-Boulder have an academic program for alcoholic beverages? Probably not. I do know that Metro State does through their hospitality program. Chalk one up to finding a niche that wasn't filled. Though the history of Boulder Brewery is a definite argument in favor of Boulder.

Regardless, Boulder doesn't want anyone else visiting their fine city. Boulder is for Boulderites, not those filthy outsiders who want it to look like Denver with all those five story buildings. Well, except for all of those students from California willing to pay top dollar for the Boulder experience.

mr1138 · #**1437** Posted: **Jun 3, 2012, 3:33 AM**

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Originally Posted by wong21fr

Does CU-Boulder have an academic program for alcoholic beverages? Probably not. I do know that Metro State does through their hospitality program. Chalk one up to finding a niche that wasn't filled. Though the history of Boulder Brewery is a definite argument in favor of Boulder.

True, but Boulder Brewery was really just a quirky novelty until Ft. Collins really invented the state's microbrewery industry and brought national attention to our microbreweries. And now it seems Denver is growing its microbreweries at a rate that will easily outdo everyone else within the next decade if it keeps growing at this rate. Needless to say it has launched into a regional specialty, and I could see a museum going to any of these cities (hell, it could even go to Golden since our beer making tradition really dates back to Coors and their pioneer-era water rights claim on Clear Creek).

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Originally Posted by wong21fr

Regardless, Boulder doesn't want anyone else visiting their fine city. Boulder is for Boulderites, not those filthy outsiders who want it to look like Denver with all those five story buildings. Well, except for all of those students from California willing to pay top dollar for the Boulder experience.

Amen. And I was born and raised in Boulder. Somehow all the California and East Coast transplants who control the politics know what's better for my city than I do. They moved here to "escape the big city" afterall. At least that's what they always claim on the dailycamera.com comment section.

Cirrus · #**1438** Posted: **Jun 3, 2012, 3:36 AM**

Well, at least they're not claiming to be doing it for environmental reasons anymore. Did the state's actual environmentalists finally tell them to stuff it?

RyanD · #**1439** Posted: **Jun 3, 2012, 9:40 PM**

Got another timelapse for you. This was during the eclipse and I knew the camera wouldn't get the sun so I was going to trash the project until I saw some awesome lens flare of the eclipse. Look to the left center when the video slows down. And fullscreen / HD is your best bet.

• Video Link

bcp · #**1440** Posted: **Jun 3, 2012, 10:26 PM**

that is really cool..thank you for sharing!