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Old Posted Apr 3, 2012, 6:27 PM
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MONTREAL | YUL (Îlot Overdale) | 38, 38 FLOORS

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Résidentiel et commercial
- 120 mètres (basilaire de 44 mètres)
- Concepteurs : Menkès Shooner Dagenais
LeTourneux architectes et Stefano Domenici Architecte


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Old Posted Apr 4, 2012, 2:32 AM
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The architecture of this one reminds me a little bit of a cheap version of the Montevideo building in Rotterdam.


Torre 'Montevideo', Rotterdam, Holanda by pedro kok, on Flickr
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I like what Rotterdam has been doing lately. I do hope we get something like this^, even if it has to be a bit cheaper.
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^Second that. Damned overdale...been keeping us waiting since the 70s!
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New renders. Stunning in my humble opinion.


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Stunning indeed!!
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This is a high quality render. Now, provided they dont use the same materials as the Louis boheme, this should be a stunner, regardless of the height.
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This is a high quality render. Now, provided they dont use the same materials as the Louis boheme, this should be a stunner, regardless of the height.
Also, is Montreal seeing the beginnings of a new style of high rise development? A 10 storey base with a 40 storey tower rising perpendicular to the street? (Marriott and Hilton)
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Old Posted Apr 26, 2012, 9:29 PM
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agreed, the materials will make or break this one. i still remember walking to work when the first prefab slab was being delivered for the louis bohème... it ruined my day when i saw it.

what i'd really like to see would be black (or very dark green? would be a nice callout to cibc up the street) marble cladding. of course, not gonna happen.
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There are other nice and creative options than marble or granite. Here's a nice idea of Jean Nouvel for example.




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I'll let you guys translate this to English if anyone asks and if you don't mind. I'm sorry but it's getting late over here and I don't master that kind of material vocabulary.
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[...] on apprend notamment que la façade de la partie basse n'est pas du tout en béton préfabriqué, mais qu'elle a été réalisée en utilisant du mortier projeté sculpté, imitant ainsi des blocs de pierre (le béton préfa aurait été trop répétitif). Deux étapes :
- une première couche d'enduit de 3 cm (sur laine minérale, treillis soudé et lame d'air), qui sèche pendant 2 semaines ;
- une deuxième couche de mortier de 4 à 5 cm, dans lequel le sculpteur trace les lignes de faille principales (mortier frais), le laisse tirer, puis attaque les détails et la finition. Il n'y a eu qu'un sculpteur, qui réalisait 40 m² de façade par jour.

C'est l'entreprise AAB (Atelier Artistique du Béton) qui a réalisé cette façade particulière. Je pense qu'au vu du résultat, on peut les féliciter, ainsi que le sculpteur
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Well, I hate to bring you the "bad" news, but Overdale is, in fact, a project by the same team who did Louis-Bohème, which, despite its shortcomings, is a very nice building. At least when looking at it from the east.


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i actually love louis-bohème, by far the nicest tower built in montreal in my lifetime. not saying a lot given how awful our value engineered towers are, but still worth noting.
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Je suis d'accord : le Louis-Bohème est un bel édifice.
Le projet de l'ilot Overdale est aussi extrèmement satisfaisant. J'apprécie particulièrement l'espace vert aménagé du côté sud.
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Old Posted Apr 27, 2012, 4:26 PM
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le louis bohème est correct de loin (et encore, je trouve la proportion entre la base et la tour pas très gracieuse, mais c'est mon avis personnel), mais de près c'est une autre affaire! le revêtement prefab noir fait vraiment cheap. j'ai pas hâte de voir ce qu'il va devenir dans 10 ans.
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le louis bohème est correct de loin (et encore, je trouve la proportion entre la base et la tour pas très gracieuse, mais c'est mon avis personnel), mais de près c'est une autre affaire! le revêtement prefab noir fait vraiment cheap. j'ai pas hâte de voir ce qu'il va devenir dans 10 ans.
Pas très beau, ça c'est sur.

Ce qui me frustre avec le L-B c'est la façade nord et surtout, l'ouest. La façade de l'est est très belle, mais les autres sont tellement moche, c'est un clin d'oeuil direct au tours du ghetto Concordia.
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en ce qui concerne l'îlot overdale - y aura-t-il de commerces au niveau du rdc le long du boulevard? si oui, j'y serais moi-même aux rencontres publiques avec ma vuvuzuela, partisan farouche.
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I think in the next 10 years mtl skyline will change quite a bit ... all these 120m towers will make a huge difference especially in aerial photos... i don't even want a 250m tower... i like these 120m - 150m towers.
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I agree with G.S. Montreal. Let us gain a few dozen 120-150m towers and densify the core. Right now, downtown doesn't need height, but more highrise density. Looking at the skyline from the Peel Bassin makes this quite obvious.
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yeah, and a concerted effect to repair the damage to the street-level wrought by several decades of catastrophic development policy and a history of failed social housing projects and mafia-backed proposals. there are so many empty lots in the downtown core that i avoid certain streets entirely (parts of bishop, mckay, city councillors, mayor, union, virtually everything between rene-levesque and saint-cath from guy to lorimier, the ville-marie/craig stretch, the list is nearly endless). we fix those in a way that creates consistent streetscapes and rebuilt retail walls, and we're going to have an amazing city, like once we did.
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yeah, and a concerted effect to repair the damage to the street-level wrought by several decades of catastrophic development policy and a history of failed social housing projects and mafia-backed proposals. there are so many empty lots in the downtown core that i avoid certain streets entirely (parts of bishop, mckay, city councillors, mayor, union, virtually everything between rene-levesque and saint-cath from guy to lorimier, the ville-marie/craig stretch, the list is nearly endless). we fix those in a way that creates consistent streetscapes and rebuilt retail walls, and we're going to have an amazing city, like once we did.
I agree with you, and I'm less concerned with highrise or skyscraping than with bringing back the buzz that used to exist before highways and other things wreaked havoc on St Antoine, Notre-Dame and the area around Windsor station for instance. Looking at old pictures, it is hard to imagine how vital streets were sacrificed for ugly massive and nondescript infrastructure.
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