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Old Posted Apr 13, 2012, 4:09 AM
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Hidrock JV to Develop $100M Hotel at 133 Greenwich St.

By Jacqueline Hlavenka
April 11, 2012

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Catering to the re-emerging tourism market in Lower Manhattan, a joint venture of Hidrock Realty and the Robert Finvarb Cos. are developing a $100 million Downtown hotel near the World Trade Center site, GlobeSt.com has learned. Slated to open in early 2015, the companies are planning to build a 30-story, 300-key tower at 133 Greenwich St. just a block south from the 9/11 Memorial.

The 135,000-square-foot development will most likely be a flagged hotel, though a brand has not yet been chosen, according to Abraham Hidary, president of Hidrock, who tells GlobeSt.com that Lower Manhattan has “all the ingredients” for a great new development site. “What’s being built in Downtown Manhattan is a city within a city,” he says. “It’s probably going to be one of the most sophisticated, beautiful and modern cities ever built, and our site is right in the center of all that action.”

The project comes at a time when tourists are continuing to flock to the Financial District. According to the Alliance for Downtown New York, Lower Manhattan attracted 9.8 million visitors to its major museums, events and attractions in 2011, marking an 8% increase from 2010. In addition, the National September 11 Memorial Plaza, which opened in September, attracted one million visitors in its first 3.5 months. And once the National September 11 Memorial Museum opens in 2013, Hidary predicts that tourist activity will increase even further -- which will result in a need for more hotel rooms.
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Interesting, looks like the SITE is already clear.
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Old Posted Apr 13, 2012, 4:23 AM
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With all of the hotels that have been and will be opening up around the WTC area, there may be no need for a hotel directly on site.
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Several new towers proposed in the Downtown / Lower Manhattan: 50 West Street, Nobu Tower, 99 Washington Street and others.

Last year also had a company that seems to have purchased the brick building "pink" next to this, and also the American Stock Exchange. Long time no hear any news about it. Speaking of which, the building next to this (O'Hara's Restaurant & Pub) is garbage. It should be demolished and replaced.

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Downtown NYC Hotel Site Sells for $28M, $70M Development Planned





By Scott Baltic, Contributing Editor
April 24, 2012

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A 6,160-square-foot hotel development site at 133-135 Greenwich St. in Downtown Manhattan has been purchased by Hidrock Realty for $28 million. Eastern Consolidated represented the seller and procured Hidrock as the buyer of the parcel, which is almost adjacent to the World Trade Center site. A luxury 150,000-square-foot, 33-story mixed-use building with a 28-floor, 300-room, $70 million hotel is slated for the site. The hotel is scheduled to open in early 2015, according to Eastern Consolidated associate director Robert Khodadadian.

The approved design plans for the project were created by Costas Kondylis and Partners, which also designed Manhattan residential condo towers Trump World Tower and The Atelier and, so far, five residential buildings at the 75-acre Riverside South project. The firm is also overseeing the restoration/renovation of The Plaza Hotel & Residences on Fifth Avenue.


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In comparison to the other hotels Lower Manhattan is getting, this is not that bad, plus it's only 30 stories. I am surprised that they say it's going to take almost three years to finish.

Just when you thought Lower Manhattan couldn't get any denser...
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Why can't there be a standard for architecture? It seems like a lot of NYC developments are the ugliest, blandest, lamest designs any city gets these days. Just look at other cities around the world, they don't see tall boxes anymore. I get that it's a cheap development, but they can try to make something out of little they can afford.
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Why can't there be a standard for architecture? It seems like a lot of NYC developments are the ugliest, blandest, lamest designs any city gets these days. Just look at other cities around the world, they don't see tall boxes anymore. I get that it's a cheap development, but they can try to make something out of little they can afford.
Really? Look at Japanese, German, English and Canadian cities, and you will see plenty of tall boxes going up. China is mostly boxes, you just focus on the outrageous designs and dismiss the rest. Why should a developer build just for aesthetic reasons if he risks losing money in the process. A box makes sense in terms of efficiency and cost. There's no design board reviewing proposals in NYC for the most part that could dictate policy. This is a free market, and they build what makes financial sense first, aesthetics most likely are not as important as the bottom line in most cases.
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It's a 30-story hotel, I don't see a problem with it. It could just as easily be a residential tower. It won't have a presence at all on the skyline. I could see wishing for something more if it were on of the city's taller buildings, but for what it is, pretty decent.


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Lame.
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^^ Agreed. Although I can't decide whats more lame, the actual building or the render. At least it doesn't look like a horrible zebra like its nearby soon to be Holiday Inn neighbor.
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From an encouraging NYTimes article, Reins Easing on New York Construction Loans.

"Abraham Hidary, the president of Hidrock Realty, for example, is negotiating with lenders for loans to build a 317-room hotel at 133 Greenwich Street..."
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The hotels are booming.
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Hidrock taps Marriott to flag downtown hotel

By REW Staff
April 24, 2013



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Hidrock Realty Inc. and Robert Finvarb Companies (RFC), the joint venture that purchased the parcel at 133 Greenwich St., has selected Courtyard by Marriott to flag their upcoming 317-key hotel.

The project is due for completion in the second quarter of 2015.

The property, located across the street from the World Trade Center redevelopment site and the September 11 Memorial, will also include approximately 3,000 s/f of ground-floor retail and a rooftop bar. Hidrock and RFC are co-developing the property and have retained Peter Poon Architects to design the hotel. Danny Forster, an architect and host of the Science Channel’s Build it Bigger, is consulting as a design architect on the project.
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Lower Manhattan is currently the fourth largest central business district in the nation, and projections for future tourism in the area are at record highs.

The Alliance for Downtown New York reports that in the first year that the National September 11 Memorial was in operation, the area attracted 4.5 million visitors from more than 150 countries and will draw even more once the September 11 Museum is completed.

“This hotel will be integral to the redevelopment of the World Trade Center area, as it will cater to the influx of tourists who will flock to the area for business, the memorial, the shopping, and the growing nightlife,” said Bobby Finvarb of RFC.“With the new World Trade Center Transportation Hub and the Fulton Street Transit Center mere blocks away from the hotel, patrons will have access to 13 MTA subway lines; PATH trains to New Jersey; the Hudson River ferry; and potentially a direct rail link to JFK International Airport.”
The Lower Manhattan hotel boom shows no sign of slowing.
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225W 57th st, One 57, WTC complex, the entire Hudson Yards complex, Manhattan West, 30 Park, 56 Leonard, One Madison Ave, etc. Are not only intriguing designs, their size and height will help them to stand out in the skyline. To say that just boxes are going up is silly. And even then, boxes aren't always bad. Look no further than 432 Park.

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I think the vertical lines almost give the impression of an exoskeleton. That, and if the materials on the base are quality, then it should look pretty decent.

P.S. Isn't it the 3rd largest after Midtown and the Loop? What would be bigger? Surely not Philly or L.A.
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Hotels near Ground Zero find room to grow
Since Sept. 11 attacks, hotels in lower Manhattan have seen a six-fold increase






By Matt Chaban
September 13, 2013


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When you build on hallowed ground, you treat it as such.

An empty lot across the street from Ground Zero will soon become the city’s newest Courtyard by Marriott. But instead of the budget-friendly, cookie-cutter lodgings synonymous with the chain, the developers behind 133 Greenwich St. are promising something striking.

Designed by Danny Forster, the 30-story tower will boast a faceted façade that makes the 317-room hotel look like it floats above the National September 11 Memorial.

“I’m a New Yorker, so to me, this is the most important site in the city,” says Jack A.Hidary, principal at Hidrock Realty and co-developer of 133 Greenwich St. “It’s not just any piece of real estate. It’s the World Trade Center.”

While it took more than a decade for the World Trade Center to take shape, Hidary will complete his project in just 14 months, hoping to capitalize on the gorwing crowds downtown.

His team is among dozens of developers driving a hotel boom in lower Manhattan, a neighborhood written off as a ghost town 12 years ago.







Construction has begun on a Courtyard by Marriott at 133 Greenwich St. across from Ground Zero.
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Why is it an near perfect clone of 4 wtc?
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That's hilarious. 4WTC has a mini-me now.
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