Originally Posted by min-chi-cbus
NE OH has well over 5 million people though, and up to 10 million if you include SW PA. Now I realize this is a larger region than even massive LA, but not by a ton, I'd think.
The reason LA has the density it has, and why Cleveland doesn't, besides cost of land and environmental constraints like mountains, is because LA has been growing at light speed since 1900. When Cleveland grew fast, it grew dense. I notice that the fastest-growing cities -- for the most part -- develop denser than slower-growing cities. Each plot of land makes much more money for a developer and they don't have to worry about selling lots -- they get gobbled up.
I agree with another poster: beef up the police presence and make the city streets appear friendlier and people will move back to the city. Crime and perception of crime will continue to destroy this city in the form of disinvestment (or complete lack of investment). Get people interested in moving to the city and give them a reason not to worry!
Easier said than done, I know!
I did a quick visual check on a map, and it seems that the NE Ohio region(sorry about the population, I read it wrong. Should be ~5 mil) is slightly larger than the LA area. SW PA is roughly the same size as NE OH, depending on your definition of the area. It's the same story as most older cities: As you said, very dense in the core and in older areas where it grew quickly, but spreads out as you leave the center. LA keeps a higher and relatively similar density throughout it's area, accounting for it's higher population and density. (sorry if this is a big *duh* and kind of obvious, just letting you know I'm on the same page here). I guess my point is that NE OH needs to start working on a more regional level to bring itself up to speed, which has been difficult until recently because of the isolation stemming from the more rural areas between the cities, as opposed to LA which is continuously urban. But this thread is about ending suburban sprawl and bringing people back into Cleveland (LA is another ball of yarn to unravel elsewhere). So back on that note...
Yes, I do see Cleveland and Akron someday combining into the same MSA. Although it may take some time, it will eventually happen, I'm just concerned this may occur because of continued outward sprawl. Both cities really need to focus on redeveloping their cores while still promoting a shared identity of sorts to the rest of the world. Yeah, seems kind of impossible and may just be wishful thinking on my part.
I am also in agreement with the crime perception issue in Cleveland. Crime is still an issue, but it is made out by many people to be much worse than it is, and seems to be a huge deterrent to bringing people and business back into the city.