Impact of student's protests on Montreal's image - Page 3

240glt · #41 Posted: **May 23, 2012, 7:20 PM**

LOL... I know exactly what it means

Gotta love living in the inner city

We heard that a bunch of protest sympathizers were just arrested in one of the Bentall buildings' stairwells in Van... apparently trying to gain access to the roof to hang a banner in support of Mtl. We're now sweeping all our stairwells.

Xelebes · #42 Posted: **May 23, 2012, 7:23 PM**

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What does it mean?

Steel-wool is used in spectacular fire-poi. That's one thing that steel wool is known for.

240glt · #43 Posted: **May 23, 2012, 7:25 PM**

^ I doubt that's what they sell it in convenience stores on Granville for though !

Xelebes · #44 Posted: **May 23, 2012, 7:26 PM**

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^ I doubt that's what they sell it in convenience stores on Granville for though !

Okay, outside of pyrotechnics, what is the allusion to steel-wool?

240glt · #45 Posted: **May 23, 2012, 7:28 PM**

^ It's commonly used in the smoking of crack cocaine

Xelebes · #46 Posted: **May 23, 2012, 7:29 PM**

Ah, don't know much about crack.

Blitz · #47 Posted: **May 23, 2012, 8:45 PM**

They should better consider that they already pay by far the lowest in Canada and even after these increases, it will still be the lowest. The protests seem out of line when looking at the bigger picture across the country.

Rico Rommheim · #48 Posted: **May 23, 2012, 8:49 PM**

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They should better consider that they already pay by far the lowest in Canada and even after these increases, it will still be the lowest. The protests seem out of line when looking at the bigger picture across the country.

Those who know anything about the protests know that they are FAR more than just about student tuition. It has become a national (Quebec) struggle against every facet of Government and corporate corruption and cronyism.

Canadians always like to say that Quebec is a broken province. Well it is, and the Quebec people are sick of it. The Quebec people are telling those in power what they really think of their policies and actions.

As for the image of the city, my foreign friends living here are all taking part, my friends abroad are fascinated.

lake of the nations · #49 Posted: **May 23, 2012, 9:11 PM**

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They should better consider that they already pay by far the lowest in Canada and even after these increases, it will still be the lowest. The protests seem out of line when looking at the bigger picture across the country.

This statement is false. Manitoba and Newfoundland will have lower fees. Anyway, why should we compare ourselves with the others when we are better than them?

Ramako · #50 Posted: **May 23, 2012, 9:18 PM**

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Anyway, why should we compare ourselves with the others when we are better than them?

You've got to be kidding.

freeweed · #51 Posted: **May 23, 2012, 9:39 PM**

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You've got to be kidding.

Sometimes it's hidden, sometimes it's out there a little - and sometimes, it just slaps you in the face.

thurmas · #52 Posted: **May 23, 2012, 10:10 PM**

I just visited Montreal 3 weeks ago and I was not impressed. I have been to montreal 4 times now and this past time was a real let down. The people were terribly rude just asking a simple question like is there an atm in the building I was treated like I pissed in their coffee the drivers were all driving like it was a forumula one race without any regard for the public safety and these students were sort of just the cherry on the cake for a terrible trip.

mike474 · #53 Posted: **May 23, 2012, 10:18 PM**

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Still view it (never been) as much safer/less douchey then Vancouver.

One stroll down Granville on a friday night + the stupid riots have basically cemented that for me until I actually go to Montreal.

Having lived in both cities and this really resonates with me

Drunk assholes from Surrey on an average Friday night on Granville have given me more problems than the protesters ever have.

Andrewjm3D · #54 Posted: **May 23, 2012, 10:43 PM**

Montréal has always been a city of protests. This won't change the opinion of most for the city. As for the protesters they should be thankful that even with a modest tuition increase they'll still be paying less then the rest of Canada for their education. I paid $16,000 7 years ago for an 8 month program here in Toronto.

le calmar · #55 Posted: **May 23, 2012, 10:48 PM**

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You've got to be kidding.

I think he refered to the tuition fees being lower in Quebec. At least I hope so (or else this statement would be very pretentious)

lake of the nations · #56 Posted: **May 23, 2012, 10:56 PM**

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I think he refered to the tuition fees being lower in Quebec. At least I hope so (or else this statement would be very pretentious)

Of course (I apologize if it was not clear)! What I meant was "Why should we try to mimic the others if they do something wrong" (I think that high tuition fees are a mistake).

Andrewjm3D · #57 Posted: **May 23, 2012, 11:16 PM**

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Of course (I apologize if it was not clear)! What I meant was "Why should we try to mimic the others if they do something wrong" (I think that high tuition fees are a mistake).

Well are the people of Quebec prepared to pay higher taxes so that the schools can continue to improve not to mention offer decent wages to staff and the educators? If not tuition fees must rise or the quality of your universities and colleges will continue to slide. Personally I would pay higher taxes if it meant giving more people a fair chance at life.

Doug · #58 Posted: **May 23, 2012, 11:28 PM**

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To some degree the student protests positively impact my view of Montreal and Quebec. I'm happy that somebody still protests about real issues that matter, and it is good to see a point of view other than meaningless moralizing aimed at getting the middle and lower classes to accept a raw deal negotiated on their behalf.

What is the issue? Is it tuition increases, corruption, globalization, income inequality, Quebec nationalism, global warming, the union movement? This protest only reinforces the perception of Quebec politics as disingenuous. It makes for great media with the student leader wearing the $4,000 suit and a guy in a plush panda costume smashing a store window.

I hope the federal government stays completely on the sidelines and lets this three ring circus self destruct.

lake of the nations · #59 Posted: **May 23, 2012, 11:32 PM**

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Well are the people of Quebec prepared to pay higher taxes so that the schools can continue to improve not to mention offer decent wages to staff and the educators? If not tuition fees must rise or the quality of your universities and colleges will continue to slide. Personally I would pay higher taxes if it meant giving more people a fair chance at life.

I would pay higher taxes too. However, it is not even necessary on a short-time basis, considering the fact that the total cost of education in Québec is already higher than in the rest of Canada (~ $ 29 000 vs ~ $ 28 000).

Andrewjm3D · #60 Posted: **May 23, 2012, 11:44 PM**

per year - Gov.ca

On average, undergraduate students in Ontario paid the highest fees ($6,307) in Canada, followed by students in New Brunswick who paid average university tuition fees of $5,516.

Undergrads in Quebec and Newfoundland and Labrador continued to have the lowest tuition fees, averaging $2,415 and $2,624 respectively.