Originally Posted by bricky
Shiro is annoyingly, reflexively, consistently pro "Europe" and anti-American, but even a stopped watch is right twice a day.
I'm not even half as annoying as people like pesto. This forum has made me reflexive. If some people would just STFU about places they don't know anything about, halfway decent conversation might be possible. Being "pro" or "anti" continents or countries is such lame archaic thinking, not surprised you continue to come up with such things. I'm pro many things American even moreso than some American posters on here. In fact, the US is one of my favourite places in the world.
Lastly, even if I was all the things you accuse me of being..., that doesn't make me "wrong", so your argument doesn't even make sense. Someone is wrong when he/she doesn't acknowledge facts (like pesto), not because he/she is annoying or reflexive.
Here is a list of countries with GDP (PPP) per capita. All three sources of data pretty much agree. Australia is around $40k per capita, and America is at $48k. I would guess that Syndey and Melbourne are above the Australian national average, and metro LA, as a not particularly wealthy region of America, at the American average or perhaps even slightly below it.
Also, one can make an honest case that America tends to overstate its GDP relative to a lot of other developed countries, for several reasons, some of which I'm aware of off the top of my head:
1) heavy spending on prisons and law enforcement in America, which while pumping up GDP, still leave America as more violent and dangerous than any other developed country in the world. Hence if you were to in a sense PPP that number, you would reduce GDP to account for that high expense low results part of the American economy.
2) in a similar way, you could do the same for American health care spending. We spend a lot more, adding to GDP, only to receive worse results. Hence perhaps we should discount a lot of that healthcare spending in the US to get a true idea of economic output.
There are probably other cases like that as well. I might even add military spending, which doesn't seem to improve my life much/at all, and is of questionable value in making the world a safer place. Perhaps there would be more chaos in the world without so much American military spending, but I personally think there wouldn't be. Hence essentially wasted spending.
In addition to all this, Americans use 6 times the energy the average world citizen does and 2 times the energy the average European does. This all adds to the GDP but much of it is not wealth generating but rather harmfull to the environment and essentially a tax on the future.