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Graffiti Mecca 5Pointz to be Replaced by Two High-Rises





July 2, 2012
By Ewa Kern-Jedrychowska

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The owners of the famed, graffiti-covered 5Pointz warehouse are looking to replace the iconic building, used by artists for almost two decades, with a pair of residential towers. David Wolkoff said he expected the so-called graffiti mecca — on Davis Street and Jackson Avenue, right next to the Court Square subway station — to be demolished by the end of 2013.

The project has been on the drawing board for a while and the Wolkoff family, which has owned the building for more than 40 years, decided it was time to replace it with a new development. “Long Island City is growing,” said Wolkoff, who recently met with a Community Board 2 land use committee to discuss his plans. “We think now is the time to add to the neighborhood.”

Joe Conley, CB 2 chairman, said the group had a number of concerns about the project, including population density and traffic flow in and out of the buildings, but added the board would be working with Wolkoff to address the issues.

According to Wolkoff, the family was planning to replace 5Pointz with two massive residential towers — 47 and 41 stories tall — that would contain about 1,000 apartments. None of the building will remain.

The majority of units would be 1-bedroom apartments and the rest would be a mix of studios and 2-bedrooms. All would be rented at market rate. There would also be commercial space on the ground floor, parking for 250 cars, bicycle parking within the building, storage and pedestrian walkways. Wolkoff said the development would include a public space for graffiti artists to show their work.






















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Agreed - I guess sky-high demand for Brooklyn Queens housing is a good problem to have, but most great cities find ways to shelter and protect their established cultural institutions, especially those like 5Pointz that arose spontaneously without help from the city's government and elites.
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welp another blow to the Graff community....2 skyscrapers for Queens
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Well its in Queens not Brooklyn and to me 5 Pointz is a gallery not a building anyway. This critical mass of graffiti piecework should migrate to the Bronx anyway, where it makes more sense not just geographically but culturally. How long will it be before someone rich in the music industry proposes a hip-hop museum in the Bronx, its' birthplace, with all the elements on a full display? A giant graffiti "hall of fame" would work great at such a place or a site a stones throw away...
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oh noo I always loved passing through this on the train! Oh well, I hope the new buildings will be great also
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oh noo I always loved passing through this on the train! Oh well, I hope the new buildings will be great also
Don't worry, they will be terrible.
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Well its in Queens not Brooklyn and to me 5 Pointz is a gallery not a building anyway. This critical mass of graffiti piecework should migrate to the Bronx anyway, where it makes more sense not just geographically but culturally. How long will it be before someone rich in the music industry proposes a hip-hop museum in the Bronx, its' birthplace, with all the elements on a full display? A giant graffiti "hall of fame" would work great at such a place or a site a stones throw away...
This was created by Queens artists, layered one over another on a Queens building... how on Earth does this belong in the Bronx? Besides, if we want to be technical, the graffiti element of hip hop began in Philadelphia with prolific taggers such as Cornbread. DJ Cool Herc, a Caribbean musician based in the Bronx, was arguably the spiritual founder of contemporary hip hop, but he had very little to do with graffiti in any capacity. Graffiti, for better or worse, is a form of "street art" and is inseparable from the environment where it was created; a sterile "hall of fame" where graffiti would be forcefully relocated for tourist enjoyment defeats the purpose of this controversial art form.

Graffiti aside, these buildings are as historically/architecturally valuable as half the stuff that is cherished and preserved in many former industrial areas of the city, prime material for, say, artist studio or loft conversion. Is there REALLY no fiscally viable way to preserve these structures, even if brand new condo towers are erected right next to them? Where are the outcries from the artistic AND preservationist communities when we need them most? Or do they consider such structures beyond salvation if they have been "desecrated" by such acts of "urban vandalism"?
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I don't know where you get the idea that these are all Queens artists, weighing more significance on 5pointz' location, which there is none. StayHigh149, which btw passed away within the last month, alone was a legendary Bronx writer... There may be a heavy presence of Queens specific writers' piecework at 5pointz but it is by no means a "Queens graffiti artists showcase." I'd say the majority of the pieces are at least [metropolitan] New Yorkers with some national and international writers scattered about.

As far as the term "hall of fame" goes, culturally "hall of fame" has been used colloquially as a way of describing a local hotspot or high profile gallery of graffiti piecing amongst writers, nearly exclusively in a makeshift, non-permission manner. I was not alluding to any sort of corporate "rock and roll hall of fame" or anything of the sort, I was merely stating that if a hip hop cultural attraction, museum whatever were to be built in the Bronx, the nearly universally regarded birthplace/development center of hip-hop, that it would be cool and advantageous if a concentrated graffiti piecing gallery, or "hall of fame" could be close by.
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Ok, let's not get into a debate about graffiti, or the where's and hows. This specific thread is about the highrise proposal. It will have to go through the City's land use approval process, so we'll be learing more about what's planned here.

In the meantime, anyone who wants to visit the site can still do so...

http://5ptz.com/graff/about/

http://5ptz.com/graff/corporate-events/
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Graffiti, for better or worse, is a form of "street art" and is inseparable from the environment where it was created; a sterile "hall of fame" where graffiti would be forcefully relocated for tourist enjoyment defeats the purpose of this controversial art form.
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I'm happy to see the level of demand to warrant this kind of construction in Queens, but it is quite sad to see such a unique building / property get demolished. I always loved this building when walking to PS1. Speaking of which, I wouldn't be surprised to see the future residents of this building start complaining about the Saturday PS1 Warm-Up parties.
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most likely 2 sterile boxes will replace this....

Hopefully the new graffiti spot will be just as cool....
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http://www.timesledger.com/stories/2...2_07_05_q.html

5Pointz in plans to be replaced: Conley





By Rebecca Henely
July 3, 2012

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Community Board 2 Chairman Joseph Conley said the board is waiting to hear back from the city regarding developer Jerry Wolkoff’s plans to replace Long Island City’s graffiti mecca 5Pointz. Wolkoff, who owns the former factory at Davis Street and Jackson Avenue, gave a preliminary preview of his revised plans to CB 2, Conley said. His plans are awaiting an OK from the city Board of Standards and Appeals, Conley said.

The neighborhood art institution will be replaced with 1,000 residential units, retail space, loft spaces for artists and a common area/public open space for artists that would have walls for new graffiti murals, Conley said.


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Wrecking Ball Looms For 5 Pointz Building




July 4, 2012
BY LIZ GOFF

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A popular urban canvas may soon be erased from the Long Island City landscape under plans to develop two high-rise residential towers at the site.

The graffiti covered 5 Pointz building at 45-46 Davis St. will soon face a wrecking ball under a proposal by the building owner to develop two high-rise towers - 41-story and 47-story residential towers that would feature a number of amenities, including a gym, media center, swimming pool, shops, restaurants, supermarket, a park and open air concourse – and open space for work by graffiti artists.

Community board officials expressed concern over the size and scope of the proposed project, but agreed that a mixed-use development at the site would be a fitting next chapter to the history of the 5 Pointz building.


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5 Pointz to face wrecking ball by Sept. 2013

June 25, 2012

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The 5 Pointz graffiti warehouse is likely to be demolished by September 2013 and replaced by two apartment buildings if the property owner’s plans are approved. Last Wednesday, David Wolkoff, whose family owns the Long Island City property, attended a land use committee meeting at Community Board 2 in Woodside to provide an “information presentation” on the proposed development.

Wolkoff, however, has to apply for a special permit to build the project on this scale. The development would create 980,000 sqf. in space, well over 5 times the size of the lot that is permitted. Therefore, he is seeking a permit that would allow him to build 8 times the lot area.

The developer is also seeking a waiver from a strict street-wall requirement.

Wolkoff said that he hopes to get the “plans certified” (requiring a detailed submission of plans and maps) with the Department of City Planning by fall.

The plans would then undergo the uniform land use procedure, which includes a 60 day period for the community board to review the application and make a recommendation to the city planning commission. The borough president is also required to write a recommendation.
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Video: Curator Of 5Pointz, Meres One, Will Take You On A Tour





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August 15, 2012


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With 5Pointz in danger of getting demolished as soon as next year—to make way for a luxury apartment building, of course—it may be a good idea to visit the "Institute of Higher Burnin" again, or for the first time if you haven't already. In the below video you'll get a taste of what the site has to offer, from curator and Queens native Meres One... it goes way beyond tagged walls.

You can check out the place on your own, or you can hit up this SideTour experience, where for $35 you'll get a guided tour from Meres One, who will tell you about the history of 5Pointz, its purpose, and "its strong ties to the music community (Joan Jett, Joss Stone and Mobb Deep have all been known to pay visits)." Meres will also give a live demo of his own work, and bring you to the rooftop of the "largest, legal, aerosol art exhibit space in the United States."
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a compromise of sorts would be to tag up and graffiti whatever is built there.

well...i'm just sayin'...!
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New York graffiti haven braces for gentrification

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Graffiti artists are used to escaping cops, jumping from roofs, and dodging trains, but New York painters who turned an abandoned factory into a street art legend now face their real nemesis: gentrification.

5Pointz in the borough of Queens is one of the city’s most arresting sights — a huge building plastered in brilliantly colored, skillfully executed graffiti works that have won international acclaim. Taggers, as they’re known, are invited to paint legally at 5Pointz, watched by an audience of graffiti cognoscenti, tourists and passengers on the number 7 subway train rattling every few minutes along an overhead line. But after two decades of brightening the drab neighbourhood, 5Pointz is slated to vanish in early 2013, replaced by New York’s latest luxury, high-rise apartment buildings. Site owner David Wolkoff, who long supported the graffiti free-for-all, says progress is unstoppable, and many will welcome exchanging a graffiti-encrusted hulk for shiny residential towers.

But 5Pointz’s disappearance will mark the end of a unique New York experiment. “It’s one of the most fabulous places in the world,” said Banga, a well-known French street artist, sweat pouring off his arms as he sprayed a complicated piece on one of the few remaining blank patches of wall. “It’s the most prestigious place. I’ve never seen anything like it,” he said. “I get a feeling of freedom and people can appreciate my work. We’re harming no one.”

Wolkoff says that after nearly 20 years of helping street artists, he wants them to move on. “We believe they enlivened the building and gave it great character. We’ve really enjoyed having them,” he said. However, “everything progresses. The city is progressing…. As a businessman it’s an opportune time to take advantage of that growth.” That will mean two towers of more than 40 floors each and a total of nearly a million square feet of developed space, with apartments getting a stunning view of Manhattan’s skyscrapers.

“The building will have a tremendous amount of amenities: indoor pool, big gym, yoga room, spinning rooms, media rooms, billiard rooms, party rooms and outdoor space for the tenants to barbecue or hang out,” Wolkoff said.

With only final approval pending and plans to start demolition before next summer, there seems little chance of 5Pointz getting a reprieve. Wolkoff promises to retain echoes of the graffiti haven, with gallery space and “art walls” in a pedestrian area. But the wild style days are over. “It can’t be all, it can’t be 100 percent of the building, it can’t be two 47-storey towers with graffiti all over it,” he said.
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The Fate of 5 Pointz: Why One Man May Demolish New York’s Graffiti Mecca





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October 24, 2012

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5 Pointz is hard to miss. As the 7 train rises out of the depths of the East River into Long Island City, Queens, the five-story graffiti-covered warehouse slowly comes into focus. Passengers crane their heads to glimpse a peek at the murals of rappers, hip hop artists, and cartoons that burst to life from its peeling yellow walls.

Known as the world’s graffiti mecca, 5 Pointz is the largest legal aerosol art site of its kind. Artists come to this warehouse from all over the world for the chance to see their work displayed on its walls. It has been featured on numerous bus tours, been the backdrop for several movies and television episodes, and has been listed in every major guidebook, making it a destination for tourists and art aficionados alike. Since the early 1990s, 5 Pointz has proudly dominated the Long Island City landscape, functioning as an introduction to Queens and a haven for graffiti artists — one of the only places in the world where they can legally practice their craft.

But as of this fall, the fate of 5 Pointz has officially been threatened. As the economy improves and the area around the warehouse has become more popular, Wolkoff has decided to demolish the aging building to make room for rental properties. To many, Wolkoff’s approach is in line with the trend of the developing neighborhood. However, for about 15,000 petition signers and countless others, Wolkoff is about to do the unthinkable: tear down a building that has defined graffiti culture for decades.

Numerous complaints and citations have been lodged against 5 Pointz in the past fifteen years by residents of Long Island City, mostly related to maintenance issues. Wolkoff said he has also fielded complaints by neighbors about the graffiti art. “I get a tremendous amount of pressure from people who don’t like graffiti in the neighborhood,” he said. “Any given day or week I could have taken the art off the walls. Any time I wanted to. But because we like it, we’ve kept it there.” In addition, Wolkoff said that he is losing large sums of money because of the property. He does not charge the artists who paint at 5 Pointz or accept any compensation from tours, but continues to pay taxes on the building.

Wolkoff’s decision to construct a new rental property in Long Island City has much to do with the dramatic shift that has taken place there in the past decade. An influx of new residents have flocked to the neighborhood, drawn by cheap rents and its proximity to Manhattan. Wolkoff’s plans include two towers reaching 47 and 41 stories, containing 1,000 rental units and up to 30,000 square feet of retail space. He is currently applying for permits that will allow him to build five times what is allowed on the lot. After he is approved by city planning, he will be able to apply for a demolition permit.

In an interview with WNYC, Joseph Conley, the head of Queens Community Board 2, said, “I can’t see that the community will lose anything with that building. It’s an outdated building. It’s from a bygone era and it’s certainly not an efficient use of space.”

Wolkoff has plans to allow artists to continue to paint on the walls outside of his rental towers, though on a much smaller scale than the vast warehouse of 5 Pointz. For Flaguel and the artists, that is not enough. “Graffiti and street art is the most relevant art movement of the 20th century,” said Flaguel. “It’s an art form that has been practiced by every culture, every religion, and every color…You’re about to erase the Chrysler Building of the biggest art movement of the 20th century.”


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This weekend I had the opportunity to take a SideTour experience of 5Pointz Art Center, an outdoor art exhibit space in Long Island City, Queens where artists from around the world paint on the walls of a 200,000-square-foot factory building complex. Our guide was Meres One, a talented artist and the curator of 5pointz, which is nicknamed “The Institute of Higher Burnin.” Meres is an engaging guide, and has a way of making the artwork come alive as he shares stories of artists, often with themes of personal loss and overcoming obstacles such as medical illness that effected the creative process.

Throughout the 2-hour tour, Meres proudly talked us through the incredible range of subject matter, styles, and methods utilized at 5Pointz by artists from around the world. Meres makes an effort to allow different styles of art. We were shown examples of classic old school graffiti, “graphic design” graffiti, modern graffiti with clean shapes and lines, street art with distinct meaning or message, stencils, stickers and wheatpaste. They all come together to form a kind of collage which changes and evolves over time.

The loading dock feels like the heart of the art center. Despite the food carts and trucks coming in and out of the garage, there is a vibrant and exciting energy and during the summer they host many parties and events here. Next to the loading dock, there is a small, indoor gallery which at the time of our visit featured canvas paintings. As we discussed the art around the loading dock, Meres explained that some of the highest pieces were done with the help of a crane that was onsite during construction. The pieces across the top – from PC Kid to Dondi – are names of graffiti artists who have passed away. Artists are lost, and other artists step up – literally as high as they can go – to make art in their honor.

At 5Pointz, most of the pieces stay up for six months to two years. However, one piece by has been here a lot longer. In the photo below, under the window and next to “5PTZ dot COM”, the faded pink “Child” is actually older than 5Pointz itself. It dates back to the days of Phun Phactory, the non-profit which operated the site starting in 1993. In 2002, Meres took over and renamed it 5Pointz, suggesting a place where the five NYC boroughs come together as one. The Child piece was there at that time, and Meres has outlined it twice since then.

You’ll need to get to 5pointz soon, for this tour or for a self-guided visit because the future of 5Pointz is uncertain. In 2009, NYC Buildings department ordered the largest building closed after a stairway collapsed, seriously injuring an artist. Now there is a dispute over what to do with the complex. The owner announced plans to redevelop the property and build high-rise residential towers. Meres has publicized his desire to convert the building into a graffiti museum and possibly open a school for aspiring aerosol artists. During our tour, he seemed cautiously optimistic, acknowledging that the future is uncertain, but also mentioning that he has been in talks with the Long Island City council to expand to another site.



Child is the oldest piece at 5pointz, probably dating back to the early ’90s.




Sey One, a wheelchair-bound artist, was hoisted up 2 stories to do this blue green piece.




Salvador Dali mural by Zimer





Slot machine themed mural by Italian artist Mr. Blob. There are 5 symbols on the front of the machine – one for each NYC borough.




Beauty & the Beast” Mural by Esteban del Valle, a Brooklyn-based interdisciplinary artist originally from Chicago.




Collaborative mural by The Yok and Creepy.




Pointillism portrait by James Cochran.




Shiro, Demer, Meres Collaboration




Lady Pink




MCA of the Beastie Boys. RIP




Meres gave a live demonstration of how he creates his own works of art.




The view from under the 7 train featuring a flower by Michael De Feo, Notorious B.I.G. mural by New Zealand’s OD, and Meres’ signature light bulb character.



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The proposed building would have a base of varying heights—60 feet along the Jackson Avenue frontage and the north and south
ends of Crane Street, 40 feet along Davis Street, and 20 feet in the central portion of Crane Street—with two residential towers
(the North and South Towers). The base structure would include a central private landscaped courtyard. The base has been
designed to provide for varied and active uses on all four sides of the building, with multiple entrances, and a variety of surface
treatments. Within the base is the proposed parking garage, local retail, gallery and artist studio uses, and the tenant amenity space.

Proposed above the base are the two residential towers, one 47 stories tall and the other 41 stories tall, with the taller tower
near Jackson Avenue. The total height of the two towers, including the rooftop mechanical space, would be 428 and 466 feet,
respectively, plus the bulkhead (or 440 and 498 feet, respectively, to the top of the bulkhead).



























































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