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Originally Posted by Bluenote
You don't drive @ PnM much do you. It would be a Headache and a disaster waiting to happen, Ped's would never make it across the street in time. Plus you would literally KILL whats under PnM. For that place I would just like to see more Art, more outdoor Kiosks, maybe if we were RICh enough, that ped bridge they proposed, that was like a 4 legged space ship.
As for French, you going to foot the Bill, I am tired of high taxes paying for Biligual signs. If we did that then they should be in German, Various Asian, and most of all NATIVE, since that is the biggest population here. St V was distinct as being the English 1/4 and St B and St N were the French 1/4. Each area of the city should be unique as we are a very multicultural city.
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I can appreciate your P&M argument, though I differ on that opinion. Cities much larger than Winnipeg handle 10x the P&M auto/foot traffic with well timed traffic & pedestrian lights. I'm sure the underground could and would still be popular amongst people who wish to go there, or during the winter time when evading the colder days; ppl will choose their preferred path...I'm not going to cross P&M if I want to go down to the shoppers in wpg square for instance...no issues in Calgary with the +15/street side usage. Giving people more options, instead of less, is not always a bad choice....as killer as it would be during rush hour, it could still add to a much needed "livelihood" vibe downtown. Winnipeg's downtown is so spread out its tough to see people walk about and give the city some vibe, but P&M is one area where they do come together...its just exclusively underground atm.
and I can see your french argument too. Though, you're attempting to equate fairness in a way that isn't apples to apples. One thing to consider is french is the other official language in Canada, unlike the other one's you mentioned Sure there are such considerations made in areas like greater Vancouver where korean and chinese populations are high but none of those languages are (even close to) as large a second language in Winnipeg as french is. When one in seven people can speak german, whatever asian language, or whatever aboriginal language (what is a "native" sign exactly? you mean language? cause there are various aboriginal murals present throughout the city and the culture is proudly evident through various aboriginal festivals ands functions, operating nicely) you're thinking of then its a good point to make. So I can agree on that level. But none of those languages are at the level of spoken french in Winnipeg. Whats wrong with me wanting to see something like that to flesh out french culture more in the city and promoting it? Over 90k people in the city speak french. I'd like to see what the third most commonly spoken language in the city is, and I can bet its no where near 90 000.
while I can see both arguments you present, consider what my list is and consider how it relates with the thread title...its "what's the biggest change you would make to your city"...its a subjective thing...
its one thing to discuss something, but to begin your points with statements like "you dont drive ___ much, do you?" and "well you gonna have to foot the bill"... its apparently less about discussion and more you discrediting what I would personally like to see. I'm not doing that, and I don't think the point of this thread is to do that. Unless those corporations who will magically appear in Winnipeg once that short bullet point list is completed have some plan to prevent their towers from falling apart in 100 years, that is.
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