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Old Posted: Aug 26, 2012, 3:40 PM
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Forbes magazine says D.C. is cool. Who’s to say it’s not true? Me.

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Forbes magazine says D.C. is cool. Who’s to say it’s not true? Me.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifest...y.html?hpid=z4

Gene Weingarten: Coolsville
By Gene Weingarten

Did you see that Forbes magazine just ranked Washington, D.C., as the nation’s second “coolest” city — ahead of Miami, New Orleans and New York? You are probably thinking that letting Forbes magazine judge a contest about coolness makes as much sense as letting Hustler magazine judge a contest about calculus. But let’s not be too hasty. Let’s think about it a second.

Okay, you’re right. The best evidence that you are right are the results themselves. Sure, I think Washington is cool, but I tuck my shirt into my underpants. The fact is, empirical evidence militates strongly against Washington as any sort of avatar of cool.

In Washington, an example of an A-list celebrity — the sighting of whom at a restaurant would elicit high-fives all around — is, like, Ben Bernanke. The only time truly cool celebrities visit is for an opportunity to be uncool, such as testifying before Congress about their views on alternative energy sources. Or to accept the Kennedy Center Honors a few weeks before they die.

Here are two celebrities who were born in D.C. but managed to get the hell out as babies: Samuel L. Jackson and Louis C.K. Here are two celebrities who were born in D.C. and grew up here: Al Gore and Bill Nye, the Science Guy.

In Washington, pulses race just a little more quickly on the morning the quarterly gross domestic product figures are released. After the latest monthly employment report, I tweeted that I didn’t understand how jobs could surge while unemployment went up, and got a barrage of earnest explanations from Washingtonians, including this one: “Difference lies in U3 vs U6 BLS stat.”

In Washington’s doctors’ waiting rooms, you are more likely to see the Economist than People. Washington bling is work ID tags, worn around the neck, displayed after hours in bars and actually consulted in a furtive status check. So true... people are suck fucking losers here

The only truly famous ethnic neighborhood in D.C. is Chinatown, which is a few blocks long and has authenticity issues. The three most prominent stores in Washington’s Chinatown are Urban Outfitters, Fuddruckers, and Bed, Bath and Beyond.

Washington’s single authentic home-grown cuisine is bean soup.

In Washington, the Metro closes for the night, because so does Washington; it goes beddy-bye, like a senior citizen. Metro cars have carpeting, and it doesn’t even get particularly dirty. (Many Washingtonians will read the previous sentence and say: “What do you mean? It’s filthy-dirty!” If they ever have to ride, say, the Lexington Avenue local in New York, they’ll immediately go home and burn their shoes.)

Washington is the official national capital of Adults Who Ride Their Bikes on the Sidewalk Because It Is Too Scary in the Street, as well as People Who Won’t Jaywalk Even When There Are No Cars Around Because It’s Against the Rules.

Speaking of bikes, Washington is aswarm with people riding city-issued rental bikes that have apparently been designed on the theory that if something looks uncool enough, no one will try to steal it. They resemble 19th-century velocipedes, but less exciting.

In New York, the big new project is rebuilding the World Trade Center. In Washington, it is a memorial to Dwight Eisenhower.

Washington doesn’t even have the subtle thrill of danger; crime is pretty low. The biggest threat to public safety is stepping onto a Metro escalator that is actually working, and pitching forward.

Washington used to have the cool distinction of being Chocolate City, with a majority of black people, an ethnic group that, by national consensus, is cool. But the last census reveals that even that cool distinction is gone. It’s now Caramel Macchiato city.

The single coolest remaining thing about Washington — our license plates with their subversive, downright guerrilla slogan “Taxation Without Representation” — unfortunately also are a sign of our ultimate uncool. We’re impotent victims, whining. Might as well re-slogan it to “Kick Me.”
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Old Posted: Aug 26, 2012, 4:28 PM
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Good to hear an alternative to the typical boosterism and optimism, even if it's tongue-in-cheek.
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Old Posted: Aug 26, 2012, 4:32 PM
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DC, moreso than other cities, tends to attract a specific type. Whether or not that type is "cool" is kinda besides the point.

It's just that DC newcomers are somewhat easier to characterize than in other cities.
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The whole idea of characterizing any group of more than about 5000 people as "cool" or "not cool" is a waste of time. Leaving aside differing conceptions about "cool" (does it have to do with lots of hot clubs or social action; lots of choppers or lots of public transit?), any urban area is going to break down into numerous subgroups that will define their own style of "cool". You will gravitate toward that group if you have interest in doing so.

As far as I can tell you can go from Boston to SD; Seattle to Miami and find lots of cities which will have plenty of attractive people, down to earth people, nice clubs, beaches, parties, socially or politicaly active people, funky or trendy neighborhoods, places to chill with friends or walk quietly by yourself. Etc., etc. How you would go about toting these up into a list escapes me completely. But fortunatley there is no need to do so.
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The whole idea of characterizing any group of more than about 5000 people as "cool" or "not cool" is a waste of time. Leaving aside differing conceptions about "cool" (does it have to do with lots of hot clubs or social action; lots of choppers or lots of public transit?), any urban area is going to break down into numerous subgroups that will define their own style of "cool". You will gravitate toward that group if you have interest in doing so.

As far as I can tell you can go from Boston to SD; Seattle to Miami and find lots of cities which will have plenty of attractive people, down to earth people, nice clubs, beaches, parties, socially or politicaly active people, funky or trendy neighborhoods, places to chill with friends or walk quietly by yourself. Etc., etc. How you would go about toting these up into a list escapes me completely. But fortunatley there is no need to do so.
It's all about lots of choppers, man.

Good, true post
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Forbesian Foolishness strikes again. Anything Forbes-related should be stricken from the annals of SSP.
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In Washington’s doctors’ waiting rooms, you are more likely to see the Economist than People. Washington bling is work ID tags, worn around the neck, displayed after hours in bars and actually consulted in a furtive status check. So true... people are suck fucking losers here
I can completely understand why Forbes Magazine would think that this is cool and it does happen all the time.
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Old Posted: Aug 26, 2012, 9:23 PM
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I can completely understand why Forbes Magazine would think that this is cool and it does happen all the time.
You rascals didn't read the writer's column, now did you?
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indeed. I see Forbes, and my stomach recoils, and I feel myself unable to continue.
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Yes, that's why I posted it -- not to make your stomach recoil, but since the author is making fun of Forbes' #2 ranking for DC's "coolness".
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You rascals didn't read the writer's column, now did you?
I did and I also lived in DC from 2006 to 2010. I would say the City Center project would be closer to a WTC development for DC but I understand the point that is being made. I also want to state that Columbia Heights has a decent size ethnic population with a very storied history more so then Chinatown but again I am understand the point that is being made. DC is a cool hip place for people that brag about working on K St and their roommate being a staffer on the hill while overpaying for their drink at a ritzy bar.
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I am really found of DC, not sure about its coolness though. Definitely an interesting joint architecturally speaking.
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I did and I also lived in DC from 2006 to 2010. I would say the City Center project would be closer to a WTC development for DC but I understand the point that is being made. I also want to state that Columbia Heights has a decent size ethnic population with a very storied history more so then Chinatown but again I am understand the point that is being made. DC is a cool hip place for people that brag about working on K St and their roommate being a staffer on the hill while overpaying for their drink at a ritzy bar.
Oh okay, I was only responding because I think the whole ID tag thing was something that the author brought up, not necessarily something that Forbes listed as cool about DC -- though you're right that lame Forbes would think something like that is cool.

And yeah, I think the author was being tongue in cheek with his descriptions of DC, since there are much better examples present in DC. There's really a ton of major development projects happening in the area... CityCenter, DC Yards/Capitol Riverfront/Navy Yards, Southwest Waterfront, National Mall...

And the Chinatown reference he made about it being DC's most famous ethnic neighborhood was just odd, considering that DC is one of the major centers of African-American culture in the nation, with a number of notable neighborhoods.
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Architecturally, DC is one of my favorite cities on the planet. It's absolutely stunning.

Nightlife and arts-wise, I've never experienced a city with such a high douche level before. I feel like Vegas would beat it in that category for me if I ever make it there.
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Architecturally, DC is one of my favorite cities on the planet. It's absolutely stunning.

Nightlife and arts-wise, I've never experienced a city with such a high douche level before. I feel like Vegas would beat it in that category for me if I ever make it there.
"People who go to Las Vegas, you've got to question their fucking intellect to start with. Traveling hundreds and thousands of miles to essentially give your money to a large corporation is kind of fucking moronic. That's what I'm always getting here is these kind of fucking people with very limited intellects. "-George Carlin

He is right. I never seen such a high level of stupidity than going to Vegas. We took a bus from the airport to our Hotel. Grown men "whoot Whooting" and talking about how they better not get arrested, and repeating that stupid "what happens in Vegas Stays in Vegas" bs. It's like, "Dude, even when I got drunk at 16 on buds my brothers bought for me I didn't act like that."

I had several job offers in DC so far. Never took one. I always felt that my anti-corporation attitude would not do me well there.
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D.C. was cool during the 3 years I lived there.

Then I left, and.....
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I always thought nightlife in Las Vegas was for snobs and posers, generalizing of course.
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Architecturally, DC is one of my favorite cities on the planet. It's absolutely stunning.

Nightlife and arts-wise, I've never experienced a city with such a high douche level before. I feel like Vegas would beat it in that category for me if I ever make it there.
I know what you're saying... there's certainly that douchey, status-oriented, superiority, stuck-upness going on here. But that's made up of the more mainstream, high-achiever, prep-school, type A transplants who all come to make it big "on the Hill" or with a big contractor or the snotty, know-it-all non-profit/ngo crowd. You'll get that in big cities that draw from all over the nation and the world. DC might even get a little more annoying types since its the capital.

You kind of have to get to know the area a little better to find MUCH cooler crowds in the nightlife scene.

Arts-wise... I don't know about the "high douche level", since one can find that in spades in any city's art scene (most "artist" types can be tremendously douchey as well, in similar and far different ways, in my experience). But as far as cool stuff going on with visual arts, music, etc., there's FAR more (it's really not even remotely close) here than in a city like Pittsburgh, which has some cool stuff going on... but it's small and you're going to see basically the same people and stuff at every single event, night after night, week after week, year after year...
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Generalizations are fun sometimes. Either way, I think people should just lighten up and make the best of the situations they end up in. I have met a lot of douchebags in Miami and LA, but I still had a blast partying in those towns.

I have never thought DC was cool by the conventional sense, but it can be a fun place to live, visit, or spend a few years working. I think many of the gripes people have are a bit overblown. People are going to ask you what you do for a living, or tell you what they do, pretty soon into a conversation, but just tell them or lie or something and move on, it's not the end of the world.

There are plenty of anti-establishment types or people who sympathize at least with those causes. I've met a lot of people working for nonprofits, NGO's, charities, and other advocacy organizations who don't fit the archetype that a lot of people tend to have about people in DC. There are corridors like 14th St., U St., Columbia Heights, and H St. to a lesser extent, that a lot of outsiders don't know much about and I have a hard time believing that people that frequent these places are that much worse as far as their douchiness is concerned compared to other wealthy, liberal, and young cities out there. There's plenty not to like in DC, but either way, I can't help but judge people who seem unable to lighten up in certain places and get socially discouraged so easily.
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But as far as cool stuff going on with visual arts, music, etc., there's FAR more (it's really not even remotely close) here than in a city like Pittsburgh, which has some cool stuff going on... but it's small and you're going to see basically the same people and stuff at every single event, night after night, week after week, year after year...
My point wasn't to get into a city war here, but you brought up Pittsburgh so I'll bite. For the specific type of stuff I'm into (experimental electronic music, digital visual arts, etc), it's no contest between the scene that has developed in PGH and DC. PGH kicks DC up and down the street. Sure, large museums and bigger art events, no contest. DC is a top-tier city. I'm not going to comment on anything city comparison like from this point on.

I love DC. But in my eyes, what makes a city "cool" is the strength of the under the radar shit, and how successful that is. From the multiple experiences I've had there (and I'm friends with a lot of the people doing similar music shit – we are constantly comparing notes and ideas), they struggle way more than they should for a city their size. The thing that hurts DC in building up a solid core to the underground scenes is that it's too transient. A "core" of devoted die-hards needed to make that happen never has the chance to come together and create a family because everyone is in-and-out too quickly. Add in the types of jobs/economy that make up the city and there you have it.
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