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Old Posted Dec 14, 2012, 12:09 PM
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Smile NEW YORK | 520 Park Ave (45 East 60th) | 780 FT | 52 FLOORS | DEMO

RobertWalpole posted on SSC about an application that was recently filed for this tower that's being developed by Zeckendorf, the developers of 15CP West. Needless to say I'm absolutely thrilled right now.

It's always nice to see Midtown's skyline extending further.

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It looks like the lot has roughly same sq. footage as the tower portion of 432 Park Ave.
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Old Posted Dec 14, 2012, 1:24 PM
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It will be a relatively "small" building with only 40 units (there are more floors because of the duplexes at the top after the 30th floor), but the trend for higher units pushes it up there. It will probably be a little higher than 725 ft.
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It will probably be a little higher than 725 ft.
I agree, my guess is that this won't break 800ft.
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good to see the skyline stretching further north. I wonder how the Upper Eastside nimbys will deal with this one's "encroachment."
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good to see the skyline stretching further north. I wonder how the Upper Eastside nimbys will deal with this one's "encroachment."
I believe they will be too busy crying over 432 Park and 225 W57th that they will not notice this tower before it's too late.

With 225 W57th having the tallest roof in America, I belive that organized opposition to buildings less than 1,000ft tall will largely dissappear from the agenda of Upper Eastside NIMBYism.
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good to see the skyline stretching further north. I wonder how the Upper Eastside nimbys will deal with this one's "encroachment."
That area is pretty dense, if not as high. The GM building is the closest behemoth to it, and it will have great views of - Central Park.


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Wow, I just noticed on the application that this building will be 51 stories high, yet have only 40 units. That fact, combined with its location, will make this building incredibly high end, to say the least.
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Wow, I just noticed on the application that this building will be 51 stories high, yet have only 40 units. That fact, combined with its location, will make this building incredibly high end, to say the least.
This will probably be one of the most high-end buildings on earth. It's the same developers as 15 CPW, which, when built, broke all sales price records.

I think, given this location, you could beat prices at 15 CPW.

It should also be a super high-quality building. The developers (Zeckendorfs) usually only use Robert AM Stern or other starchitects, and use high quality materials like Indiana limestone (on the entire facade, not just the bottom floors).

Hopefully this building will approach or top 800 ft. Those high-floor Central Park and Upper East Side views will likely be incredible.
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I like this trend of building higher for residential units. And its not just that they're building high, but the locations offer some of the best real estate in the City.
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This new development intrigued me, so I said why not one more time. (Rules are meant to be broken, I guess).







I will block the Bloomberg Tower, as a sign of how big it will be. It will also probably be a throwback A.M Stern building. See you in two months.
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Excellent news! Good height for this place.
Can not wait to see the render. It would be great to see an art deco this site.

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This kinda came out of nowhere. I'd love to see some sort of a crown on this to break up the flat roof trend of neighboring buildings in the same height range, and to relate to the older residential buildings nearby right on the park, just have to wait and see I guess.
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This was needed here... Looking forward to the design.
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This was needed here... Looking forward to the design.
I agree, it will help balance the sheer height of 432 Park along with 105 W57th in addition to lengthening the chain of tall buildings that (currently) ends at the Time Warner Center.
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This kinda came out of nowhere.
This project has actually been in development for many years. The Zeckendorfs announced they would eventually do a ultra-luxury project here maybe a decade ago. Robert AM Stern was always the rumored architect.

But now it looks like it's about to break ground. In the last few days, they have filed tons of permits with the Buildings departments. All that paperwork isn't filed unless construction is very imminent.

And, yeah, this location would be perfect for a crown. A nice, narrow 800+ foot tower would be great for where Midtown meets the Upper East Side.
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I will block the Bloomberg Tower, as a sign of how big it will be. It will also probably be a throwback A.M Stern building. See you in two months.
Keep in mind that this new tower will be narrow. Not super-narrow, like 107 W. 57, but still rather narrow. I don't think it will block many views. You could probably cut the width of your building rendering in half.

Remember, only 40 units in a tower of this height. So many of these will be multi-floor units, and the overall width of the tower will be narrower than office buildings like GM Building and Bloomberg Tower.
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Thanks for the summary Crawford. I'd be real happy with a Stern building here, his designs tend to be more old school which would be a good fit for the area.

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I agree, it will help balance the sheer height of 432 Park along with 105 W57th in addition to lengthening the chain of tall buildings that (currently) ends at the Time Warner Center.
Don't forget about 610 Lexington!
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This was a pleasant surprise when I first saw the thread...but now that I can see where it's going, all the better. Something with a crown-like top *would* be a nice contrast to the GM (705') and 9W57/Solow (689') duo.

Don't forget 250 W 57th either.

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Keep in mind that this new tower will be narrow. Not super-narrow, like 107 W. 57, but still rather narrow. I don't think it will block many views. You could probably cut the width of your building rendering in half.

Remember, only 40 units in a tower of this height. So many of these will be multi-floor units,
Yeah, the top floors will be duplexes. The 40 units gives an indication that this will be a very thin, yet ultra-luxury development (location doesn't hurt either). We can look forward to more of these types being developed as everyone goes after the better views.
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