PHILADELPHIA | 3601 Market | 27 floors

summersm343 · #1 Posted: **Jan 3, 2013, 9:28 PM**

Title: 3601 Market
Project: 364 apartments, 17,000 sqft of retail, fitness center, rooftop pool, lounge and 200 parking spaces
Architect: BLTa
Developer: University City Science Center, Wexford Equities and Southern Land Co.
Location: 3601 Market St., Philadelphia, PA
Floors: 27
Height: 309 ft

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Groundbreaking is anticipated in Fall 2013 with an expected delivery date of Spring 2015. The project is being designed by BLTa architects with the goal of receiving LEED Silver certification. The building will be topped off with a green roof.

http://za.news.yahoo.com/science-cen...191600096.html
http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelp...er-to-get.html

Pennsgrant · #2 Posted: **Jan 3, 2013, 11:29 PM**

Not exactly a cutting edge design but progress nonetheless. Is it a law that new development in Philadelphia must have a flat roof?

NW corner?

summersm343 · #3 Posted: **Jan 3, 2013, 11:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by Pennsgrant

Not exactly a cutting edge design but progress nonetheless. Is it a law that new development in Philadelphia must have a flat roof?

NW corner?

Yes, NW corner. Replacing the surface parking lot.

volguus zildrohar · #4 Posted: **Jan 4, 2013, 12:35 AM**

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Originally Posted by Pennsgrant

Not exactly a cutting edge design but progress nonetheless. Is it a law that new development in Philadelphia must have a flat roof?

It might take a daring design proposal or two to break this streak. Bear in mind that BLT is all about milquetoast architecture.

rricci · #5 Posted: **Jan 4, 2013, 9:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by volguus zildrohar

It might take a daring design proposal or two to break this streak.

Can anyone that is spatially inclined tell me if this will be visible fwhen standing near 30th Street Station?

summersm343 · #6 Posted: **Jan 4, 2013, 9:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by rricci

Can anyone that is spatially inclined tell me if this will be visible fwhen standing near 30th Street Station?

Yes, it will be.

Swinefeld · #7 Posted: **Jan 6, 2013, 6:23 AM**

Good job on starting this thread, summersm343.

This will be a nice addition to the growing University City skyline.

bucks native · #8 Posted: **Jan 7, 2013, 11:41 AM**

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Originally Posted by Pennsgrant

Not exactly a cutting edge design but progress nonetheless. Is it a law that new development in Philadelphia must have a flat roof?

green roof with pool = flat roof

hammersklavier · #9 Posted: **Jan 7, 2013, 1:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by rricci

Can anyone that is spatially inclined tell me if this will be visible fwhen standing near 30th Street Station?

That Brutalist building across the street (3551 Market?) is about the same height, so you won't be able to see much from the east. From the west, though, it will be one of the more prominent Science Center buildings.

jhdiesel · #10 Posted: **Jan 7, 2013, 2:55 PM**

3535 is 19 or 20 stories, so at 27, the new 3601 should have meaningful visibility. If you go to google street view, you have a clear shot at 3535 from the middle of the 30th and Market intersection.

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Originally Posted by hammersklavier

That Brutalist building across the street (3551 Market?) is about the same height, so you won't be able to see much from the east. From the west, though, it will be one of the more prominent Science Center buildings.

summersm343 · #11 Posted: **Jan 7, 2013, 5:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by Swinefeld

Good job on starting this thread, summersm343.

This will be a nice addition to the growing University City skyline.

summersm343 · #12 Posted: **Jan 12, 2013, 2:04 AM**

Zoning Permit is up

summersm343 · #13 Posted: **Jan 12, 2013, 2:06 AM**

Article on this from the Daily Pennsylvania

http://www.thedp.com/article/2013/01...-market-street

MusicMan84 · #14 Posted: **Jan 20, 2013, 4:07 AM**

Here is the parking will become this building:

GarCastle · #15 Posted: **Jan 20, 2013, 6:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by jhdiesel

3535 is 19 or 20 stories, so at 27, the new 3601 should have meaningful visibility. If you go to google street view, you have a clear shot at 3535 from the middle of the 30th and Market intersection.

I think it depends on:
1) The setback. 3535 is a substantial building and is directly up against the sidewalk (with a really tasty $5 Lamb w/Rice truck including a soda/water!).

2) If they cheap out on feet/floor. It is apartments after all, they may be looking at keeping the construction cost as low as possible. Anyone know what kind of apartments they will be on the luxury/cheap scale?

Cheers,
G.

summersm343 · #16 Posted: **Mar 26, 2013, 8:54 PM**

A bunch of renders here for 3601 Market:
http://www.phila.gov/CityPlanning/pr...%20Package.pdf

The building will be 27 floors and 309 feet according to this link.

Cro Burnham · #17 Posted: **Mar 27, 2013, 1:55 AM**

it will really be around 309' - 373' above sea level, but street level is already 64' at the site.

summersm343 · #18 Posted: **Mar 27, 2013, 3:24 AM**

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Originally Posted by Cro Burnham

it will really be around 309' - 373' above sea level, but street level is already 64' at the site.

You're right... my mistake

christof · #19 Posted: **Mar 27, 2013, 10:20 PM**

[QUOTE=summersm343;6067727]A bunch of renders here for 3601 Market:
http://www.phila.gov/CityPlanning/pr...%20Package.pdf

Has the neighborhood association approved this? They are complaining about the Drexel dorm that is only going to be down the block...

MusicMan84 · #20 Posted: **Mar 28, 2013, 3:59 PM**

^^ The context is a bit different. This falls directly on Market street and would be sandwiched into the existing Science Center development. The Drexel dorm is much closer to residential neighborhoods and while not far away, would feel a bit more abrupt. (Although, I am in favor of both projects - just trying to explain that the two sites have a very different context.)