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Old Posted Feb 17, 2013, 5:19 PM
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Thunder Bay Micro Tour

So I was in Thunder Bay over Christmas and tried to take some photos. Sadly my Camera doesn't do cold so well so I was only able to go out a couple of times and the battery died on the first trip and I had things to do the second time, but I hope to get back out there this summer and extend this collection.
First some Port Arthur


I don't know why they planted tiny trees in late Autumn, but they did.







The actual Port Arthur skyline was meant to be my next photo, but that's when the battey died.
Now Fort William




Hopefully more to come in a few months.
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Old Posted Feb 17, 2013, 6:14 PM
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Thunder Bay's pretty OK.

Anything new happening these days? Waterfront stuff? I thought I heard something about a grain elevator gettin' blowed up good a few years back. Maybe some development there? How about on campus? Hey, is the Inntowner still open?

Tonnes of random questions - answer them now, please!
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Thunder Bay's pretty OK.

Anything new happening these days? Waterfront stuff? I thought I heard something about a grain elevator gettin' blowed up good a few years back. Maybe some development there? How about on campus? Hey, is the Inntowner still open?

Tonnes of random questions - answer them now, please!
I saw a few new things by the waterfront, but Vid or other proper locals could probably give you a better answer.
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Thunder Bay's pretty OK.

Anything new happening these days? Waterfront stuff? I thought I heard something about a grain elevator gettin' blowed up good a few years back. Maybe some development there? How about on campus? Hey, is the Inntowner still open?

Tonnes of random questions - answer them now, please!
The Port Arthur waterfront is virtually unrecognizable from what it was 3 years ago. The grain elevator implosion (pool 6 at the end of John Street) was in December, 2000.

LU is working on building another new building near Oliver Road. The Inntowner closed a few years ago, it's now a parking lot for the new (and much larger) District Social Services Administration Building, but will become a second building for that organization in a couple years.

When's the last time you were in town? I can tell you what has changed.
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^Oh man, it's been a while...mid-90s?
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Old Posted Feb 20, 2013, 2:41 AM
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Yeah, lots has changed since then. Keskus Mall is gone, there is a casino in its place, that area is now the entertainment district with 10 bars (decent ones, not dive bars), and condos (a few existing, while those under construction will increase the residential population of the area considerably).

Across from Intercity (which doubled in size in 1996), what used to be bush, is now a nearly fully developed power centre right to the CP rail yard. Walmart, located at Fort William and Central, is also completely developed. Hotels are going up along the Harbour Expressway at Carrick (which is being prepped to become a new north-south arterial).

County Fair Mall has died, there are only two businesses located in it right now. It's been bought by a multinational company and is going to be redeveloped, though. I don't know if you were around then, but in 1994 the old truck repair shop at Strand and Dawson was replaced by a Safeway. The K-Mart in Thunder Bay Mall became a Zellers, and then the mall was rebranded as Arthur Street Marketplace. That Zellers, as well as the one at County Fair, are now Walmarts.

A&P took over most of Grandview mall in the early 2000s. There are only 7 stores in that mall!

Several new buildings have been built at LU, mainly on the northeast corner of it. River Terrace, east of Junot/Golf Links and south of the river, is entirely built out. The new hospital is at the northeast corner of Oliver and Golf Links, and that intersection is surrounded by businesses now. A nearby Days Inn has expanded three times since it was built in 2007. Two clinics, one three storeys and one six storeys, are being built at that intersection right now.

Hogarth Riverview Manor is entirely gone. In it's place, a bunch of plain, modernist apartment blocks. McKellar Hospital has been replaced by a Shoppers Drug Mart. Only the newer white part of the hospital remains, it's been converted to a seniors retirement home. We have a lot of seniors retirement homes, btw.

The courthouse pictured above has taken up the area between Victoriaville and Miles/Archibald and Brodie. Buses now park around City Hall for transfers. The alleyway just north of Victoriaville is now a wide, one-way street called Justice Avenue.

The Northern Woods Site (home of The Blob, which has been gone since 2005) is now almost entirely cleared out, and a couple redevelopment proposals are in the works for it, but moving slowly.

Simpson Street/East Victoria and Pearl Street, while still shitty, are no longer the armpits of town. That title now belongs to South Court, North Cumberland, and North May. A lot of buildings on Simpson Street are gone now, including the West Hotel, Dease/Simpson/Manitoba Hotel, a few apartment blocks, the ANAC building, the Triple Nickle (and the buildings on North Street), the St. Louis is gone, the Victoria Avenue Bank of Commerce burned down in 2007. Saskatchewan Pool 8, south of downtown, mostly burned down in 2002. Two teenagers were held criminally responsible. The Kam River is no longer dredged, but the only shipping customer is a small grain elevator in Westfort anyway. Swing Bridge is still around, rickety as ever. We're seriously talking about replacing it.

Port Arthur General Hospital is almost entirely gone. The only piece remaining, the regional cancer centre (now a biotech company), was probably built after you left: 1997. The OPP station is also gone, it was replaced by a shiny silver building a couple years ago. The LPH is going to close (a new building gone in beside St. Joseph's, where the yellow brick building used to be beside the courthouse), and Dawson Court is going to close soon.

The Jackknife Bridge was closed to vehicular traffic in 2004, and its road deck was dismantled in 2005, after Island Drive was built. To get to the islands, you have to go down Main Street or Pacific Avenue and then head south.

The airport has a longer runway (and its terminal was built in 1994; not sure if you can recall that), and a lot of businesses are now located around it. Parkdale has finally started developing at a decent pace.

Jumbo Gardens has doubled in size, the area north of John Street Road and west of Valley Street is very built up.

Innova Park is still mostly empty. We're still debating what to do to replace the Fort William Gardens.

Only Mount Baldy and Loch Lomond ski hills are still operating. The reserve has a big business park on it now, the largest office building is 3 storeys tall and full of INAC.

Crime has become a very big issue in the past 5 years. In 2012, we tied our record high murder rate of 7 in one year.

David Hamilton was probably mayor when you left (if you remember?). After Boshcoff defeated him, he went into the US to work as a county administrator in Minnesota and later Florida. He refers to his time as mayor here as "the bad times". His political career ended in 2011, when Hermanson County, Florida fired him for being too corrupt. Our current mayor is an ex-cop, he's a pretty cool guy but not the most effective leader, so since the late Boshcoff years, we've basically stayed the course with a moderately progressive city council.

The second Boshcoff term, from 2000 to 2003, was absolutely insane. City council basically accomplished nothing because they were all suing each other, and in the meantime, the forestry industry was facing total collapse. 2002 was probably the city's lowpoint.

In 1997, the Loch Lomond water supply was contaminated with Giardia (beaver fever), so all of Fort William was under a boil water advisory for some time. Shortly after, the city started expanding the Bare Point water plant (which is now absolutely huge). In 2007, the Loch Lomond supply was turned off, and now the entire city, from Shuniah to South Neebing, has its water from Lake Superior. The change was almost perfect: the only problem was a watermain on the reserve exploding from the pressure.

That's about all I can think of off the top of my head.
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Wow, that's an impressive summary!

Thunder Bay was the first place I lived outside Hamilton, so I've got a soft spot for it.

Some of my fondest memories include the likes of:
- FW Gardens (I think the Senators had a team there in those days)
- the Royalton (pickled eggs and weirdos - probably shouldn't have been in there)
- the Hoito (all day breakfast - good and cheap)
- skiing at Mt Baldy and Loch Lomond (decent by Ontario standards)
- Lakehead (small and underrated)
- the smell of the pulp/ paper mill (strangely comforting after a while)
- seeing the Sleeping Giant every day (never gets old)
- Quetico, Ouimet Canyon, Terry Fox and Kakabeka (not in TB but close enough)
- Old Fort William (I like old stuff - even if it isn't actually old)
- The Brew Pub (Beach volleyball in the summer)
- Mt McKay (another geologic feature I never grew tired of)
- Amethyst (purple and shiny)
- The Real Canadian Superstore (big and yellow)

Those are the highlights - sorry, I was 19 and drunk most of the time.

I'll let you know if I have any specific questions about TB.

p.s. As an aside, I lived on campus for two years and then spent one year on Johnson ave and another on Harold in FW - both dumps but I was young so I loved it.
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The Brew Pub was demolished a few years ago, it's a Shoppers Drug Mart now. Superstore is blue and yellow these days, and a fair bit bigger than it used to be.
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Shopper's effing Drug Mart - worse than Tim friggin' Horton's.

Got any pics to contribute? I'm sure Beedok wouldn't mind.
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I've been planning on doing a photothread, it's just a matter of finding the time. I haven't done one of Thunder Bay since I got my new, larger than 2MP camera 18 months ago so I have a lot of photos to go through to narrow it down.
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Shopper's effing Drug Mart - worse than Tim friggin' Horton's.

Got any pics to contribute? I'm sure Beedok wouldn't mind.
Nope, the more pictures the better. I won't be getting a chance to update for a few months after all.
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I just got an awesome idea, I should do an "unedited, uncut" tour. No photo processing, just raw imagery.

I'll try and whip something up this week.

Here's a random shot:

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I'm back with a vengence! (As usualy the photos got a little scrambled when I uploaded.)

  1. Rather ugly building.

  2. A little blurry, sorry.

  3. Looks big from this angle.

  4. Not so big from this one.

  5. Looking north of the city.

  6. Looking south, same spot (more or less).

  7. Tallest building in the city, looks smaller from this angle.

  8. I count this as a skyline.

  9. Here's a more traditional one.

  10. It looks a bit more imposing from below.

  11. Always thought this looked sort of perilous.
  12. \
    This is a very long building.

  13. Still going.

  14. See, really long.

  15. Rather ugly building.

  16. This area feels so lonely and alone.

  17. Then you turn around and see downtown. (or uptown?)

  18. They're building a new hotel and condo thing. I hope it works out, but crossing the tracks is pretty annoying, especially during the winter.

  19. Something old.

  20. Something new.

  21. Something borrowed*. (Sort of, there's another one at the other end of town, not sure which is older.)

  22. Something blue. (I think the camera colour corrected it or something, pretty sure it's bluer in reality.)

  23. The start of Red River, the North End's main city.

  24. I have no idea what these things are.

  25. I like the contrast of these two houses.

  26. If you need to catch a bus in town it's probably a #3, because it's really like 5 routes.

  27. The other downtown in the distance.

  28. This sign might be completely illegeable as a photo.
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Some more photos.
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Lakehead University "skyline"
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I don't know why I like this building, but I do.
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Two laundromats within a block of one another seems like it must oversaturate the market.
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Both sides of that sign are blank.
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Okay, the photos are massive. . . I'll try to fix that.
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If all those photos weren't enough for you and you are on Facebook, a member called 'Thunder Bay' (the one with over 1300 followers and born in 1970) has many albums of photos contributed by followers - many of historic Thunder Bay (Fort William & Port Arthur), some current, and some albums set up with dual pictures of 'Then and Now'.
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I can't view Thunder Bay's photos, he blocked me because my comments offend old people.

I get a sort of sadistic pleasure out of reminding old people that the 50s were actually a shitty decade for most people who lived in them...
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