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Old Posted Mar 17, 2013, 5:15 PM
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MONTREAL | Tours Quartier des Spectacles | 65 M, 145 M | 13, 30 FLOORS

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Property Type: Office
Office Class: A
Construction Status: Pre-Leasing
Total GLA: 885,000 (sq. ft.)
Total Office Area: 825,000 (sq. ft.)
Number of Floors: 31
Typical Floor: 27,500 (sq. ft.)
Largest Contiguous Available: 825,000 (sq. ft.)
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The new 1.2 Million ft project which will be LEED certified, has great access to public transit, a vast array of services and amenities and large efficient floor plates with an abundance of natural light. At the base of the podium outstanding spaces will be available for retailers who can take advantage of the proximity of Place des Arts, OSM, Place des Festivals, Complexe Desjardins and the ongoing pedestrian traffic of Ste-Catherine Street.
http://canderel.altusinsite.com/en/i...suiteid=721701

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A partnership between Canderel and Fonds immobilier de solidarité FTQ.

The proposed 1.2 million square foot multi phased project is located in the heart of the “Quartier des Spectacles” an area of the City of Montreal that has seen an enormous amount of investment over the years and has become the city's cultural hub.

The new project which will be LEED certified, has great access to public transit, a vast array of services and amenities and large efficient floor plates with an abundance of natural light. At the base of the podium outstanding spaces will be available for retailers who can take advantage of the proximity of Place des Arts, OSM, Place des Festivals, Complexe Desjardins and the ongoing pedestrian traffic of Ste-Catherine Street.
http://www.canderel.com/node/717

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Tours Quartier des Spectacles: Deux tours de 32 et 12 étages, certifiées LEED Or et livrées d'ici 24 à 32 mois
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2013, 5:42 PM
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This could be my new favourite downtown project!
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2013, 6:06 PM
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It needs being a good 20 floors taller!
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2013, 9:01 PM
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^ street presence is so much more important than height. i'm ultra pessimistic about the likelihood that we'll see the tower component of this project built out, so i'd be happy with something even a quarter of the height, as long as that gravel parking lot disappears into a building of some sort.
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It needs being a good 20 floors taller!
nah, it doesn't
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I'm sorry but I work in the area, at night, and I tell you that this part of town is dead as a dodo at night. Ok fine, on festival night there's a crowd, but this part of town is not able to attract and then hold a clientele on its own.


This tower needs to be the antidote to this. Seriously, Ste-Catherine street between Bleury and St-Laurent needs nighttime streetlife, and it ain't with a couple glass towers that this is going to happen.

These towers need to have fully entertainment-centered podiums. The Bell TIFF lightbox in Toronto is a good idea, something like that will be crucial to whether this neighbourhood becomes 'the shit' or just plainly, shit.
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Old Posted Mar 18, 2013, 2:12 AM
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When I think about it, this would have been the perfect spot to build the Bell Centre. I checked it out on Google Earth, and this lot is approximatley the same size as the Bell Centre (the Revenue Canada building could even remain in place. Or demolish the Revenue Canada building and put the Tour des Canadiens right on René-Lévesque) It would really have rejuvenated this area. Restaurants and pubs nearby would be booming. It would have ensured that enough people were always around to be worthy of the name "Quartier des Spectacles".

Another plus is that Windsor Station would still be useable, the airport link might even be already up and running.

This office development would have been more suited to where Roccabella is going up.
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Having observed the Quartier des spectacles evolve first hand, I've reached the (personal) conclusion that it is a dud. A complete dud. No, I'm not talking about 11pm during the Jazz, I'm talking about every other night. People keep asking me where the fun is, and I have to refer them to the western edge of downtown or further up in the Plateau/Mile-end. Even McGill street in OM is livelier than the QDS. How do they expect to build an entertainment district when all you have are clothes shops, concert venues that die after 11pm and this piece of shit:


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And don't get me started about la place des festivals, which is a great idea, but just doesn't look and feel like a public space. I mean is it a slope? A street? It's framed by abandoned buildings, the parking garage of a museum and a desolate parking lot. During the day it is cluttered with orange cones and barricades for random fountain retrofit #125.

Montreal as usual, good ideas, shitty, half-assed execution.
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yeah, who would have thought that building a city center for the suburbans would not have led to a glorious revival? #amalgamationfail

seriously though, once we redevelop the habitations jeanne mance, this hood will be rolling. i've actually stopped frequenting mtlurb because of how idiotically and uncritically boosterist they are for any project in the city, pretty much exactly the attitude that i think has ruined the place. let's get the central core rebuilt along these lines: http://www.mtlurb.com/forums/showthr...d-Jeanne-Mance
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Intéressante discussion sur le quartier des spectacles. C'est vrai qu'il y manque de vie. Une des causes : Montréal a depuis longtemps déplacé la vitalité à l'intérieur et sous-terre. Le complexe Desjardins draine une bonne partie de l'activité du quartier.

Les deux restaurants de la place sont une bonne idée, mais ça ne suffit pas. Ce serait déjà un progrès de continuer à repeupler les alentours, notamment du côté est.

Par contre, je suis un défenseur des habitations Jeanne-Mance, décriées injustement à mon avis. Elles offrent un cadre de vie très décent à une population qui, sans cela, serait chassée dans des banlieues sinistres. Il faut éviter de faire des centre-villes réservés aux bobos capables de s'acheter des condos à 400 000$ et plus.
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Je suis d'accord qu'on est encore loin du compte pour faire du QDS un endroit vivant et vibrant après les spectacles. Par contre, on va dans la bonne direction depuis quelques années. On a au moins plusieurs bons restaurants de plus où manger (Brasseie T; F Bar; Le Balmoral, Boullion Bilk, La Place Deschamps à la PDA; malheureusement le St-Cyr n'a pas fonctioné) mais du côté est, c'est encore assez rébarbatif pour plusieurs. Le coin St-Laurent-Ste Catherine est une horreur quand on considère l'importance de ces 2 rues à Montréal. Il faut absolument que les projets à venir, dont celui-ci et ce qui se fera sur le côté ouest de St-Laurent entre Ste-Catherine et R.L. incluent un volet night life. Il faudrait aussi des restos plus populaires à part les chaînes présentes au Complexe Desjardins.
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The shorter tower, corner of Ste-Catherine and Bleury.

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oh wow! That looks great!
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Nothing 'spectacular' for this QDS tower. They can make it interesting by giving the podium some entertainment attributes. A new performance / concert venue perhaps.
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What I like of this new proposal is its scale on the street level: it is massive. Despite the lack of height, the building is quite bulky and has this “overpowering” look to it.

With the Wilder across the street, this area is going to look sleek.

Another thing I like of this building is its commercial ground floors. It looks like a mall – and this can do quite a bit for that stretch of St. Catherine that seems to lack a bit behind.
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I find it sober for one of the entries of the QDS. Let's put lights, sparkles, bazzaz.
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Nothing 'spectacular' for this QDS tower. They can make it interesting by giving the podium some entertainment attributes. A new performance / concert venue perhaps.
I dunno, the area really would benefit from some street level retail, so if this doesn't happen I'll be disappointed, but it won't be the end of the world to get some new storefronts because there isn't exactly a glut of them here. On the other hand, it is a shame that they tore down the Spectrum for this but don't seem like they're going to make up for it with any entertainment venues, which they really ought to.
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Belle trouvaille! Surtout le petit square... me semble que les tours ne sont pas très propices à acceuillir les restos avec terasses au rez-de-chaussée. Ça aurait pû être un petit coin vibrant.
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Merci West Aust,

Je me posais aussi des question sur la petite place. Elle donne sur le sud, ce qui l'isole de l'espace public de la place des festivals. C'est sans doute mieux ainsi... Mais sur le schéma, ça donne pas tellement le goût d'aller s'attabler là !

Espérons que ça puisse être bien : il n'y a pas tellement d'espaces extérieurs un peu intimes au centre-ville.
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