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Old Posted May 1, 2013, 9:08 PM
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Urban decay, grim and projects in northern Paris


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Old Posted May 1, 2013, 9:48 PM
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They're not showing up. Take a look at the image posting guide stickied at the top of the Tests thread.
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Old Posted May 2, 2013, 8:08 AM
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I see that you're trying to put the image tag on the page before the actual photo page at Flickr.
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Old Posted May 2, 2013, 11:39 AM
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Le Charbonneur, note that if you want to post photo from Flickr.
Click on "Partager" and "Copier le code HTML/BBCode", use the BBCode code version.
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Old Posted May 2, 2013, 2:30 PM
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Some of those buildings look like they just got out of WWII.
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Old Posted May 2, 2013, 2:50 PM
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Old Posted May 2, 2013, 3:14 PM
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Finally, some Parisian ghetto...

Welcome, le Charbonneur ! Keep bringing the motherfucking ghetto if you will, that's good for everybody here.
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Some of those buildings look like they just got out of WWII.
Mhm. Look carefully around you. Unless you live in a tiny, meaningless tax haven, so microscopic like a parasitic bacteria that you can't even find it on the world map, you'll find the crappy same (and definitely worse) in that very country of yours. That's your own world, dude.
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Old Posted May 2, 2013, 4:41 PM
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Le Charbonneur, note that if you want to post photo from Flickr.
Click on "Partager" and "Copier le code HTML/BBCode", use the BBCode code version.
Thanks Minato, was quite sure it was that but read a wrong advice in FAQ section....i was too tired and speed (or stoned lol) to verify....
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Old Posted May 2, 2013, 5:07 PM
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whoa, damn, merci pour les photos.

why is it so gritty? it reminds me of areas of the U.S. with extreme economic collapse and depopulation.

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why is it so gritty? it reminds me of areas of the U.S. with extreme economic collapse and depopulation.
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That's where the so generous social system puts the poor workers, immigrants and/or unemployed. That's the actual political socialism, my friend... These suburbs have been ruled by the French left wing for ages.
But they're close enough to central Paris to be saved, seriously redeveloped sometime.
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That's where the so generous social system puts the poor workers, immigrants and/or unemployed. That's the actual political socialism, my friend... These suburbs have been ruled by the French left wing for ages.
But they're close enough to central Paris to be saved, seriously redeveloped sometime.
how dangerous are they crime-wise?

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Old Posted May 2, 2013, 9:23 PM
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^ Ah, they're the worst in that regard in the Paris urban area and maybe the worst in entire France, but I think they're yet okay compared to the US average crime rates that are still really bad (murder-wise if you see what I mean), but the US will get better and better.
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Note that many of these areas have planned redevopement.
It is just take long times to begin works, to relocate the inhabitants and to clean up the soils of the area.
Some were former heavy industrial district and soils are still highly polluted.
There is also the issues with the building owners.

Most of the residential buildings with walled windows will be demolished soon to build modern buildings.
If the entries and windows are walled, it is to avoid squatting, a very common thing in a city that lack of housing like Paris.

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why is it so gritty? it reminds me of areas of the U.S. with extreme economic collapse and depopulation.
There is not even extreme depopulation like in USA.
Look at the population of the muncipalities that we see in the pictures, many are today more populated than their former peak in 1968.

Saint-Denis
1968: 99 268
1999: 85 832
2010: 106 785

Saint-Ouen
1968: 48 886
1999: 39 722
2010: 47 189

Aubervilliers
1968: 73 695
1999: 63 136
2010: 76 087

Pantin
1968: 47 607
1975: 42 739 (unlike other the low was in 1975 for Pantin)
2010: 54 136

For the economy as I wrote previously, it was former industrial district, infact it was one of the heart of industrial Paris.
Paris area since the 1970's shifted from an heavy industrial city to a service based city.
The today economic reality of those areas is not bleak as it was twenty year ago
What Le Charbonais don't show is that near many of these pictures, there are many offices building recently built or under in construction because of a proximity with Central Paris, tranportation and cheap land.
Saint-Denis has more than recovered the number of jobs it lost since the 1970's but there is still plenty of former industrial wasteland.

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Thanks Minato, was quite sure it was that but read a wrong advice in FAQ section....i was too tired and speed (or stoned lol) to verify....
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Great tour. But damn, this is rough. Not even the fringe commieblock districts in Berlin looks like this. This reminds me of exploring some hood African area on the outskirts of Paris last year. I was taking pictures and a group of sub-Saharan black dudes came out of nowhere and were, like, "EYYY! EYY, BRO!!"
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Ah the northen suburbs of Paris in all their glory !
I remember when I moved to Paris six years ago being quite surprised, if not shocked, by the level of urban decay in the inner suburbs (Saint-Denis, Villeneuve-la-Garenne, Gennevilliers). I didn't expect that.

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This reminds me of exploring some hood African area on the outskirts of Paris last year. I was taking pictures and a group of sub-Saharan black dudes came out of nowhere and were, like, "EYYY! EYY, BRO!!"
Where was that ?
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Kind of reminds me of this.

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