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Originally Posted by mrnyc
lol you can be as blissfully removed, rationalizing, ungrateful and cheapskate as you like
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Blissfully removed, ungrateful cheapskate says hi
I have been shot at, survived mortars and rocket attacks, heck even sustained a fairly serious back injury along other scratches
while supporting your nation abroad - and I'd gladly do it again if need be.. but does that mean I have to give up my job in law enforcement to be actively serving in case of a future conflict - or could it be that like last time I sign up when there is a need, just as our Kingdom dedicates funds when there is a need..
Remind me again what it is you have done that I should be grateful for?
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Originally Posted by mrnyc
the fact is you would have thought differently in the past, in this current day and would in the future if there was no nato. you all have to pay more of your share for it.
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We uphold the military force we feel is necessary for the situation we are in, just as we always have
as a founding member of NATO and the 5th highest per capita spender.. when the situation changes so does our spending and focus..
Remember that all males here between 18 and 60 are required by law to serve if needed - and out of those ~2million over 500.000 have undergone training and are specialized in a function!
At the end of the day
it's our necks on the line, so perhaps you might want to
change your focus to issues where your neck is on the line, such as the social situation in the US resulting in the high crime rates and murder rates, or perhaps your broken health system that has caused the US to be the only developed nation with a declining lifespan.. or how about the lacking infrastructure...
You started out by claiming our nation was the result of a low military budget - well
if you truly believe that is the case perhaps it's worth learning from that and direct some of your resources towards your own nation rather than having a military spending that basically matches the rest of the planet, while your people suffer poverty, crime, untreated health issues and crumbling infrastructure..
At the end of the day we are running our nation as we want to and in the interest of our citizens, the US can whine and cry and your orange chief can huff and puff, we're still going to run our nation as we see fit and remain a nation that inspires others, not a nation that makes people laugh or shake heads their heads at..
When the world needs us we will be there - just as we have for decades - heck as a reservist I'd gladly sign up for a tour to stabilize Venezuela or desarm Iran, just as I did Iraq in the old days - but
at this moment the needs the world have from us are covered by the budget we have dedicated, so why in the world should we spend money on the military when it's better spend elsewhere?
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