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Old Posted: Apr 11, 2006, 1:55 AM
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No activity? The existing clocktower has been demolished, as well as the parking garage. They have spent the past few months digging into the hill for the foundation, basement, and presumably the parking garage. There is a crane that has just gone up on the site in the past few weeks. That's quite a bit of activity.
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I looked at the construction cam of Rincon Hill and it doesn't look like there is any activity at the site.
The cam only updates once per hour so you really need to keep track of where eveything is to notice any changes. But there is plenty of activity, just keep track of which direction the crane is pointing and you will notice plenty of movement during normal business hours.
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Old Posted: Apr 12, 2006, 2:17 AM
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^ ok. Now I do see the crane moving in different directions.

I was trying to figure out if construction restarted because I want to add it to the USA COnstruction list. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=97974
It is had to tell if actual foundation work began, but there is a structural perimeter wall surrounding most of the site. So this building is definitely UC. I don't know if I should put in on the 2005 or 2006 UC list. I know the tower broke ground in 2005 but I thought the city put the tower on hold shortly after to make sure it was resistant enough to earthquakes. The tower got appoval to start start construction in early 2006. Did construction really stop after the city denied approval??? Is anyone out there that knows when the structural perimeter wall was constructed at the site??? in 2005 or 2006???

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Yes, construction was halted for a time, but the questions were resolved and the city gave the go ahead about a month ago.


As for the exact timing of "construction" maybe someone else knows that.
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I was living a few blocks away from One Ricon until this February, and I don't think I ever saw construction stop due to questions from The City. I may be wrong but I think there is so much money involved that the developers knew that they simply had to explain the safety of this type of structure to the city engineers/inspectors and that the project would not be derailed.

Mainly I think there was a lot of sensationalist hype in the newspaper because many bay area residents don't like the idea of highrise housing. But the people who live in the buildings certainly enjoy the buildings and the location.
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Did anyone else notice this post from Socketsite about SSP and this thread in particular? They give major props to SSP and FourOneFive!

http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2...o_to_yo_1.html


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Old Posted: Apr 21, 2006, 5:23 PM
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That illustration of Rincon Hill from the Bay Bridge is fantastic. I have seen many renderings and read many descriptions of the heights of the new towers but this really puts it into context. I'll bet a lot of folks who are only casually interested in the skyline figure that One Rincon would be basically similar to the clock tower that was on the site but, wow, they'll be in for a surprise when the steel starts going up! John King in the SF Chronicle wrote that these towers would fundamentally change the way anyone coming in to the city from the south and east would see it and if this illustration holds true he is absolutely correct.

In fact, just imagine what a drive from Oakland to the city will be like in ten years with a trip across the new east bridge and then these spectacular towers at the end. Wow!
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If you haven't seen it, check the video of One Rincon Hill (bottom right of page)

http://www.onerinconhill.com/about.html

It is unbelievable how tall it is. And since One Rincon is on the top of a hill, it looks like the 22-story Watermark only reaches about the 10th story of One Rincon.

I'm sure the views are going to be pretty amazing!
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Developer drops plans for condo tower
SoMa site's new owner says it wants to build offices there

San Francisco Business Times - April 21, 2006 by J.K. Dineen


Citing an "overheated" residential construction environment, developer Monahan Pacific has scrapped plans to build a condominium tower at 535 Mission St. and has unloaded the prime south financial district land to Beacon Capital Partners for $30 million.

While the property is approved for a residential complex, a spokesman for Beacon Capital confirmed the company plans to build an office tower on the site, the latest example of what is shaping up to be a revival of new Class A office construction in San Francisco. In addition to the 535 Mission St. site, Tishman Speyer is expected to break ground this year on an office building at 555 Mission St., and Shorenstein Properties is actively seeking tenants for a 350 Bush St. highrise.

Jeff Hutchinson, Monahan Pacific's director of acquisition and finance, said the company had hoped to develop the land as a 34-story housing complex but a "super-heated environment" put construction costs 40 percent above what they were in 2004 when the company finished its 166-unit building at 199 New Montgomery St. Monahan Pacific bought 535 Mission two years ago for $19.2 million.

"It seems like the labor and construction issues were going to get worse before they get better," he said. "The cost environment gave us some pause along the way."

Hutchinson said the project would have been competing for labor and materials with a spate of skyscrapers under construction, including 301 Spear St., One Rincon Hill and Millennium Partners' towers at 301 and 333 Mission St.

"With all the residential that is being built, it's tough to get a crew," said Hutchinson. "We would have been fighting for a tower crane reservation. There is a waiting list for man lifts. Given that type of environment and given that it was going to get worse before it would get better, it was not readily apparent that the costs would settle."

In a sense, the 535 Mission property has come full circle. During the economic downturn, the Hines real estate investment trust abandoned plans to develop an office tower on the site, clearing the way for Monahan to snap it up in 2003 to take advantage of the explosion of demand for high-end condo towers in downtown neighborhoods.

Charlie Kuffner, president of Swinerton Builders, said he now sees residential highrise softening slightly and that "the stars are starting to align so that office makes more sense." That the 535 Mission site has been pulled by market forces from office to condo and back again, makes it a telling microcosm of the overall trends, Kuffner said.

"That site has an interesting tale to tell," said Kuffner.

Hutchinson said his company could have sat on the property until construction costs went down, but that is not the way Monahan Pacific operates.
We are a development firm -- we were either going to build or move on and do something else with the capital," he said.

The rise in construction costs over the past few years has been staggering. A study by Webcor showed the price of roofing, glass, aluminum, drywall and metal stud jumped by more than 25 percent in 2005. Glenn Gabel, senior vice president of Webcor, said crane towers are "at a premium right now in the Bay Area and continue to get more expensive, but they are available."

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Brought to you by Cingular "Is the market overheated in construction? I don't know that I'd use that term. But most contractors are pretty well stretched. There are selected trades where it's difficult to get participation," he said.

Over the past year, Beacon has become a major player in the downtown office market, snapping up 50 Beale St., 100 California St., and 1 Sansome St., as well as two other buildings. Beacon Capital Partners Chairman Alan Leventhal did not return a call seeking comment, but last year he told the Business Times that "San Francisco has the type of long-term fundamentals we like, with the highly educated workforce, great financial centers, teaching facilities and research."

Tim Maas and Tony Crossley of Colliers represented Monahan Pacific and John Cecconi represented Beacon in the transaction.

J.K. Dineen covers real estate for the San Francisco Business Times
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From a proposed office highrise in the 90's, to residential last year, and now back to office ... a changing market indeed. Well maybe whatever's proposed next will be of a higher, more inspired design ( but what can you expect from Heller Manus)
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^Very dissapointing news. I don't think it's very realistic for the developer to make it an office tower. Vaccancy rate are still high and as far as I know 555 Mission still doesn't have an anchor tenant.

These high construction costs are hurting much of the west coast. The article also said it would have been difficult finding a construction firm to build the residential tower because of towers like Millenium, Spear and Rincon. That sounds like a poor excuse to me. If SF doesn't have the resources to build a few major projects at the same time than SF in is in some serious trouble.
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I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. The Financial District seems to have an imaginary border in which it cannot cross. It seems that the most rabid of NIMBY's have given up on the Financial District, so once that area is built up, it'll be harder to build office towers, if there is an increase in demand for them.
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I might be being optimistic, but maybe now we'll get something taller than the (400 ft?) tower that was planned. The space is in a prime location right smack in the middle of the SOMA highrise boom, so it could be a good thing.
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yes, taller and more ambitious for SF............
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I'm on a photo kick now - the weather's been so nice, I can't help myself!

One Rincon Hill - I took this pic before some guy came and yelled that I was on the construction site and needed a hardhat.



from across the street (where I got banished to)


Federal Building:

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Side facing Market:
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The Federal Building's turning out nice. It's like the Cal Trans HQ with 15 pieces of flare.
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Sweet pics. Are the sides of that building really going to be left with boring concrete? It seems a shame that a building wrapped in metal and glass would have exposed concrete on the side.
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Seriously, that's a great looking pic. And the projects not gonna be too bad either.
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