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Looks like the contents of a trash-masher.

Source" http://www.oneinchpunch.net/2007/09/...area-on-earth/
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MolsonExport, please provide credit for the photos you post.

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Interesting... I guess when you get to that level of density, it's absolutely critical to know where all the fire hydrants are...
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"Wandering in the village made me think this was what Kowloon Walled City looked like."

That is a street map for some unspecified village in Guangdong, not KWC.
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Old Posted Aug 28, 2008, 1:08 AM
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Kowloon Walled City


http://www.klnwcity.org

Hi all,

I found the existence of the Kowloon Walled City and was amazed and intrigued immediately. I did lots of searches on the web and found this site to. Great thread and great pictures to of which some I haven’t encountered before.
I would like to contribute to this forum thread as well and will add some info not posted here before.

Floor map

Here is the map of Kowloon Walled City of 1987. Its only the floorplan.


taken from:
my city of darkness


Book

As posted various times the best public collection of information on the KWC to date is the book City of Darkness by Greg Girard (Pictures) and Ian Lambot (Text) published by www.watermarkpublications. Unfortunatly the site does not allow to buy the book from there anymore so only Amazone saves us.



Greg Girard is still active as photographer and has a website which show pictures of KWC not seen elsewhere yet. Check it out!!!

http://www.greggirard.com




Here is the site of the japanese expedition just after the city had abandonned/cleared and before it was taken down.
It was posted here before but if you haven't seen it yet please take a look, some new pics plus info on the Scent of Kowloon Walled City ; Chungking House.
site


Links

more links (maybe some are familiar, but can't harm to post them):

a) http://bloglikeyougiveadamn.blogspot.com


b) A movie with scenes of KWC just after left abandoning.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_S...ming_locations

c) and-you-think-youre-cramped site

d) The klnwcity.org intro page with the meeting on the KWC future. Map can also be found here.

From the same site historic pictures are presented such as



(interior view KWC)

and







This link has been posted before but for those who missed it its worthwhile to check the pics, klick here.

Front page picture is



Btw, @ molsonexport, some of the pics on first page of thread are gone? Can you post them again .


Movies on KWC

I don't remember this youtube video on this thread so it mght be new here, dunno.

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/v5hk5oxj5uM&hl=nl&fs=1&rel=0"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/v5hk5oxj5uM&hl=nl&fs=1&rel=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=v5hk5oxj5uM

Other vidoe's have been posted already such as the one with the hidden shaking camera and the one from the movie Bloodsport with Belgique actor Jean Claude van Damme.

Here is a nice one from the Chungking Mansion, (small KWC)

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Owf7mHiTS4Q&hl=nl&fs=1&rel=0"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Owf7mHiTS4Q&hl=nl&fs=1&rel=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owf7mHiTS4Q



I have read somewhere that KWC is also filmed in an Episode of Star Trek, deep space nine, episode One man Bashir (season 4, episode 9, production 482). I haven't checked it yet but maybe someone else knows?



Documentary (48 min) on KWC: In Search of the Dragon's Tale

For the rest, a 48 minutes documentairy called In Search of the Dragon's Tale has been made in the beginning of the 90's and went in premiere Hong Kong Arts Centre on 31 August, 1997.
It received a price, it was Winner of The Gold Award (Documentaries) at the Hong Kong Independent Short Films and Video Awards 1997.

The film was produced by See Wan Kei & Haymann Lau and has been aired several times on TV. Here is a review taken from here.

Review Summary

This documentary takes a look inside the Walled City of Kowloon in Hong Kong. Known for being a seedy, sleazy city, this town underwent many changes since 1992, when a political agreement between China and Britain led to the destruction of Kowloon, leaving most of its 40,000 residents homeless, especially the elderly and poor. Street musician Maurice Chan, who was raised in Kowloon, takes the viewer behind the history and mystique of this former city and shows the status of the uprooted residents now. Through never-before-seen footage and photographs, Chan shows the state of Hong Kong. He talks about his own personal experiences and also interviews some former Kowloon residents who are now fighting homelessness and extreme poverty. ~ Cecilia Cygnar, All Movie Guide


I have searched the web to find this material for days but unfortunatly unsuccessfully. The only think I could find are these sites:

The original site of the docu with the script of the film still exist however the links and email seem not to work anymore. The site is also very old (1997).

http://members.tripod.com/~dragon/index.html.

This site is actually also the site of the production company so the probably set up there own producing company while shooting/editing the docu. Or they did it before, don't know.

Here is another site about the docu with some info on the producers with pics. Here I found that See Wan-kei wasn't a native chinese but western and later I found that his western name is Stuart M. Rankin. Often when people stay in China for a long time/ have many chinese friends they take a chinese name substitute for the time being. I did it also for fun when I took chinese lessons here in the netherlands. My teacher was a woman from Bejing. She told me that it was common.
Anyway, the email address of Haymann Lau on the site above doesn't work so that's another dead end. What I did find is that Stuart M. Rankin has a facebook page, so maybe I am gonna bother him soon with my questions .

Well this it, my contribution to the thread, with some information already known here, but also some new stuff I hope. Please if anyone has info on documentaries on KWC pls post!!!!


Lets keep this thread alive.


What I actually still mis is where KWC was located with respect to the Kai Tai Airport. Maybe some can post a pic?

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Old Posted Aug 28, 2008, 1:12 AM
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ai, I did something wrong, wanted to embed the youtubevids but didn't work, well links are there luckily.

does anyone have the twenty4 site on KWC still working, somehow I cannot open it anymore.

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I think I could live in there for a few years if I had a translator. Any offers out there?
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The vids he posted.


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I think I could live in there for a few years if I had a translator. Any offers out there?
the City doesn't exist anymore since 1993, so not possible anymore
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the City doesn't exist anymore since 1993, so not possible anymore
Edit: for those who see the thread for the first time please read the 1st post for detais on population and history.
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One of the many small "streets"of KWC


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"Apartments" at the edge of the city on the ground floor where very much wanted since the rent was still low compared to other places in HK and no taxes had to be paid and now permits were nessecary.


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At its peak mid 80's KWC held over 800 manufacturers within its walls.


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The guy who made the 1990 vid of KWC most likely walked the route in blue on the map below.



link to vid





The route Jean Claude van Damme walked in Bloodsport is to complicated (for me) to retrace unfortunatly. I think, considering the 3 turns they made they shot at three independend and not connected streets in the movie, but again, not sure.
link to vid

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I tried to embed the vid by copy past the code but doesn't work, anyone who can tell me how this is done on this forum? tx
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I was reading up on it a little yesterday. Fascinating, and just incredible that people could live in such a place. 50,000 people in 0.01 square miles??? Some of the other facts about it were even more incredible in some ways. Its beginnings started as far back as the year 960. Amazing, I had no idea it was that old.

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