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Old Posted Feb 20, 2006, 10:38 PM
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As far as I know, the Toronto Diagram / Database is pretty up-to-date. Aside from the chisel-shapped Sapphire design and some missing diagrams for proposed buildings. What else do you mean?
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I think the sapphire render should be done away with and just have nothing over the label until the new rendering comes out, Shangri-la is propsed at 750ft (taller then in the diagram) Wellington Square isnt even listed(200m+), The Bay-Adelaid East Tower isnt listed (also 200m+) Hummingbird has an official rendering to work from but no pic in the diagram, same with Maple Leaf Square, Hummingbird, four seasons and Shangri-la.
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I think the sapphire render should be done away with and just have nothing over the label until the new rendering comes out, Shangri-la is propsed at 750ft (taller then in the diagram) Wellington Square isnt even listed(200m+), The Bay-Adelaid East Tower isnt listed (also 200m+) Hummingbird has an official rendering to work from but no pic in the diagram, same with Maple Leaf Square, Hummingbird, four seasons and Shangri-la.
I think it's best to leave at least some diagram on for Sapphire than nothing.


Do you have a source for the Shangri-la height?

What's Wellington Square?

All of the Bay-Adelaide towers are there and have always been since it was proposed.

Proposed buildings are missing diagrams cuz we don't have anyone to draw them.
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I agree with Tony. For the most part the diagram section is fairly accurate (much more so than Emporis).

Tony: Here is the source for the Shangri-la height:

http://www.westbankcorp.com/mixed.cfm?projectid=32

Its not that the 686 ft. height is wrong, its most likely the height that they are expecting to achieve unless their attempt to go to 750 ft. (which they hope to get with extra bonuses) is quashed.

Other changes:

- Richmond Adelaide Centre says 2005 completion (I would remove the year since its proably a long time coming)
- Quantum 2 is expected to be completed by 2008 (currently says this year)
- Festival Tower and The Uptown Residences are also 2008 completions.
- West One is 484 ft. (Emporis) plus I have heard this number from more than one source
- Murano doesn't seem to show up on the diagrams (I know they applied for an extra 2 stories, but for the mean time I would still list it as 459 ft. until something happens)

Other than those minor changes the diagrams are at the best they have ever been thanks to Tony.
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Old Posted Feb 21, 2006, 5:23 AM
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I think it's best to leave at least some diagram on for Sapphire than nothing.


Do you have a source for the Shangri-la height?

What's Wellington Square?

All of the Bay-Adelaide towers are there and have always been since it was proposed.

Proposed buildings are missing diagrams cuz we don't have anyone to draw them.
This is wellington Square

this building will be beside Ritz and 200m+

Only 2 of the 3 proposed BA Towers are there, the Big one and the small one, the 53 Story one is missing, using the same floor heights as the large tower it would be around 207m tall (estimation)...nothing official unfortunetely.

Where did all the guys go that could draw the building diagrams?
I could give a shot at some i suppose, not sure if im good enough but ill show ya a pic of a Tower i designed and stuck in the SSP diagram to compare it to other towers. Its the tallest one on the left.
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yeah, the description for West One already reads 147.5m, but it's missing from the actual height entry. I'll fix that. The diagram is too tall now though.

R-A & Quantum 2 are updated now.

As for Murano, I'm not sure why they don't show. They're listed at 139.9m and 113.1m. http://www.skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?16282883

A lot of thanks goes to Goodlookin' for his database updating. Perhaps I may start drawing some of those proposals and more TO stuff in the near future.
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nellioo draw all the missing diagrams and then submit them.

I think you can help the Toronto diagram be more up to date.
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im a big fan of the wellington square project.
BTW any news on sapphire?
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This is wellington Square

this building will be beside Ritz and 200m+
Where did you get the name "Wellington Square"? It's currently in the database as this: http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=41072

Wellington Square already exists in Toronto, check Emporis. It's a bunch of 90's stout buildings somewhere.

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Only 2 of the 3 proposed BA Towers are there, the Big one and the small one, the 53 Story one is missing, using the same floor heights as the large tower it would be around 207m tall (estimation)...nothing official unfortunetely.
It is there: http://www.skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?16296589

Since the East Tower is only conceptual, thereby there are no set heights nor an official part of the original proposal it'd be a little sloppy IMO to add an estimated height to it at this point in time.

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I could give a shot at some i suppose, not sure if im good enough
Hey, don't worry about it, we could use more TO illustrators, especially to fill in the Proposed buildings diagram. I'd like to see some stuff done so I say go for it! You only get better with practice.
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im a big fan of the wellington square project.
BTW any news on sapphire?
Sapphire is still undergoing redesign to the chisel shape as far as I know. Cassius had a very preliminary draft rendering of it recently. Maybe when I get to know the people at TFAI a bit better I could ask about it once in a while.
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Where did you get the name "Wellington Square"? It's currently in the database as this: http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=41072

Wellington Square already exists in Toronto, check Emporis. It's a bunch of 90's stout buildings somewhere.



It is there: http://www.skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?16296589

Since the East Tower is only conceptual, thereby there are no set heights nor an official part of the original proposal it'd be a little sloppy IMO to add an estimated height to it at this point in time.



Hey, don't worry about it, we could use more TO illustrators, especially to fill in the Proposed buildings diagram. I'd like to see some stuff done so I say go for it! You only get better with practice.


Well since everyone seems to be calling it that...atleast over at SSC, ive started calling it that to lol, but Cadillac Fairview works just fine for me to, either one is good.
Im cofused as to why the BA East Tower is in the diagram but not in the main diagram that comes up when you simply type Toronto on the front page and hit enter, after all the signature tower is there and it also has no official height either.
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im a big fan of the wellington square project.
BTW any news on sapphire?
Well, its going to be about 73 stories..look allot more "Toronto" and hopefully less tacky with a chiseled roof (kind of like stairs). Apparently Harry and his team have been encouraged by cty planners to continue with what they have which i suppose is good news.
I actually submitted a design to him awhile ago, he e-mailed me back bassicaly saying he liked it and abunch of other stuff about his planners, so he didnt use my design in favour of something uglier lmao (the current proposal).
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Well since everyone seems to be calling it that...atleast over at SSC, ive started calling it that to lol, but Cadillac Fairview works just fine for me to, either one is good.
Im cofused as to why the BA East Tower is in the diagram but not in the main diagram that comes up when you simply type Toronto on the front page and hit enter, after all the signature tower is there and it also has no official height either.
The drawing diagram is based upon heights, whether an official one or an estimated one is entered. If none is entered, then the diagram comes after all the ones with heights specified. Not perfect, but it's all we've got for now.

Btw Neilio, I've been meaning to ask over on SSC.. is that your dog in your avatar?
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The drawing diagram is based upon heights, whether an official one or an estimated one is entered. If none is entered, then the diagram comes after all the ones with heights specified. Not perfect, but it's all we've got for now.

Btw Neilio, I've been meaning to ask over on SSC.. is that your dog in your avatar?
LoL, allot of people have asked me this, no its not my dog unfortunetly, its "fluffy" the destroyer of worlds lmao
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Okay, ive been working on a diagram for Shangri-la, although ive been doing it at the proposed 750 feet. Since it is the official proposed height i feel the diagram should be changed to that. Since we dont know that the city wont approve it at that height i say its safe to list it at 750. Plus it looks better anyway.
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I probably have to update a few things for my list.
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Hey guys this is my first render for Shangri-la, i put it together today and thought id get some feed back on it, see what you guys think.
Im also currently working on a version with lighting effects (looks allot nicer ).


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Hey, very nice. I like it. Didn't take long to get the hang of it. As for the background you will need Tony's help or another illustrator to give you the details.
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Nice job, looks better then a lot we have, including the one I did.
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nellioo draw all the missing diagrams and then submit them.

I think you can help the Toronto diagram be more up to date.
Im workin on it! lol
I think ill try doing the Four Seasons Tower next.
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Btw Neilio, I've been meaning to ask over on SSC.. is that your dog in your avatar?
Your on SSC? Is your user name there Tony or do you go by a different name?
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Hey, that's quite nice!
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