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Sacramento:
Downtown/Midtown/Waterfront and Transit Oriented Development
Proposed, Planned, Approved or U/C....

(Updated 4/12/08)


Currently Under Construction

Office/Commercial


U.S. Bank Tower
@ 621 Capitol Mall
25 story 400' office building
366K sf commerical space
24K sf ground floor retail
Developer: David Taylor
Architect: Hellmuth, Obata, Kassabaum
Construction Status:Exterior work complete.
Interior construction ongoing.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=86268



Bank of The West Tower
aka: 500 Capitol Mall

25 story office building (height estimate 400')
467,942 sf office
27,124 sf retail
Developer: Tskakopoulos Investments (Privately Financed)
Architect: Ed Kado
Construction Status: Iron skeleton u/c

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=116260



CalSTRS Headquarters
3rd street along the West Sacramento Riverwalk
19 story office tower
14 floors of commerial office space atop 5 story parking garage
400K sf Commerical Office
1000 space garage
Developer: Panattoni Development Company
Architect: Hellmuth, Obata, Kassabaum (HOK)
Construction Status: u/c

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=116795



Residential high/mid/low rise



Globe Mills
@ 12th and C street
6 Story refurbishment of Mill
143 residential units
Developer: Cyrus Youssefi and Skip Rosenbloom
Architect: Applied Architecture, Mike Malinowski
Construction Status: Under renovation



Cooper Union Building
@ 16th and H street
43 Residential units
10k sf ground floor retail space
Construction status: u/c



* Historic Hale's Building
@ 9th & K Lofts: 33 units

* North End Lofts II
14th & H street Lofts: 14 units

* Washington Park Village
17th & D street Townhomes: 53 units

* IronWorks
(Triangle Area/West Sacramento) Lofts: 180 units

* Upper Eastside Lofts (Transit Oriented Development)
65th street/adjacent 65th street RT Metro Station
Lofts: 140 units adjacent
Developer: Rasmussen Properties/partnering with Separovich Domich

* Whiskey Hill Lofts
21st & S streets
Lofts and carriage houses: 30 units
Paul Petrovich

* SoCap Lofts (Phase I)
North side of R street between 6th and 7th streets
Loft style homes: 32 units

* Tapestri Square
21st and U street
58 Brownstone- style homes on 3 acres
Developer partners: Tony Giannoni, Eleni Tsakopoulos-Kounalakis
and Metro Nova Communities of San Diego
Architect: PHA Architects

* Sutter Brownstones
27th and N street
32 Brownstone-stle homes
Mark Friedman with Michael Heller
Loftworks

* Alchemy at R street
between 26th and 27th street
R Street Homes
• Five distinctive urban style homes
27th Street Homes
• Three classic mid-town styled homes
Luxury Rental Units
• Five 775 sf ground level work-live studios.
• Ten 700-1000 sf townhouse style units
• Loft and townhouse rental units are housed in a distinctive and appealing building
with a hip, multicolored, hard-edged appearance.
• 940 sf ground floor commercial component.





Hospitality


Joie de Vivre Hotel
"The Citizen Hotel"
@ 10th and J street
Historic 15 story Cal West office building being converted into a 200 room
boutique hotel with two ground floor restaurants, 7th floor sky deck (lounge)
and penthouse ballroom.
Construction Status: Under interior renovation




Medical/Academic (includes some mixed use)


Sutter Medical Center Urban Village Project
@ 28th and N street
New Anderson Lucchetti Women's and Children's Center (Hospital)
Renovation of Sutter General Hospital (Ose Adams Medical Pavilion as of 2010)
Renovation of Sutter Cancer Center
32 new residential units on N Street between 26th and 27th Streets
New retail, restaurant and commercial space
New parking garage
New theater complex for the B street Theatre
New Children's Theatre of California
Construction Status: various project phases u/c


New Ose Adams Medical Pavilion

New Sutter Medical offices

New Residential component 28th and N street



Arts/Cultural and Entertainment


K Street Central
@ 10th and K Street
Phase I: 200 seat Live Cabaret Theater
Ground floor restaurant and 2nd floor lounge

Construction Status: u/c
Phase II: 21-Story 158 unit residential tower with ground floor retail
Developer(s): CIM Group, David Taylor, St. Anton Partners,
Cordano Company and Paragary’s Restaurant Group



Crocker Art Museum Expansion @ 3rd & O street
Highlights of the new state-of-the-art Museum building include:
*Three times the current space for the permanent collection
*Four times the current space for temporary exhibitions
*300-seat auditorium/lecture theatre
*Café with indoor and open-air seating in the courtyard
*Double the current number of parking spaces
*Expanded Museum Store
*Increased accessibility
*7,000-square-foot courtyard plus public access to the current courtyard
*Loading dock, freight elevator and increased onsite storage space
http://www.crockerartmuseum.org/about/expansion.htm
Status: u/c




E. Claire Raley Studios for the Perfoming Arts
4th and H Street
4-Story 46,000 sf of office, classroom and rehearsal space for
The Sacramento Philharmonic Orchestra, Sacramento Ballet, Sacramento Opera
and The California Musical Theatre..
Status: u/c



*1531 L street Firestone Building
Tennants: Fleming's Prime Steakhouse, California Pizza Kitchen, DeVere's Irish Pub and a lounge



Capital Unity Center @ 16th & N street





Approved/Awaiting start of construction


Residential high/mid/low rise



Cathedral Square Condos
@ 11th and J street
26 story 290' tower
233 residential units
27K sf commerical/office
15K retail
Developer: St Anton & J Cordano Company
Architect: Kwan Henmi
Construction status: Pending Design Commission Approval




East End Gateway
Sites II and III @ 16th and O Street
Developer: Ravel Rasmussen Properties
Architect: Chang Partners
Site II: 4 Stories, 24 Apartments, 4900 sf retail
Site III: 5 Stores, 60 Apartment, 7100 sf retail
Status: Approved with construction start July 2008



*11th Street Lofts (11th & R street behind exisitng 3 story brick building) 14 Live Work Lofts

*12th Street Lofts (12th & R street) 16 Live Work Lofts



Transportation


Sacramento International Airport Phase I Expansion 2010/11
$1.1 Billion Replacement and Expansion (of Terminal B)
New Central Terminal Complex
New 19 Gate Concourse B (with 2 International Gates)
New Parking Garage #2
New FAA Control Tower
Automated People Mover to Concourse B
Upper/Lower Decking of Roadway for Central Terminal (Arrivals and Departures)
Architect(s): Fentress Bradburn Architects of Denver/Corgan Associates
Status: EIR Complete/Construction estimated to begin in Spring 2008.

(Rendering Corgan Associates)

(Rendering Corgan Associates)

(Rendering Corgan Associates)



Planning Process/Pending City Design Review and Planning Commission Approval


Office/Commercial


Meridian II
@15th and K street
22 Story Office Building, 300'
Developers: Tony Giannoni & Angelo Tsakopoulos
Architect: Lionakis Beaumont Design Group
Construction Status: Possible Spring of 2008




9th and L street
15 story office tower, 150'
6500sf of gorund floor retail/424 parking spaces
Alternative proposal: 13 story residential tower 150'
173 residential units/219 parking spaces
6500sf of ground floor retail
Developer: Cordano Development


(two views/office proposal)

(residential proprosal)



Residential high/mid and low rise



The Metropolitan
@ 10th and J street
38 Stories, 430'
350 residential units
13K sf ground floor retail
Developer: Saca Development
Architect: Kwan Henmi




301 Capitol Mall
Developer: CIM of Los Angeles
Controlling Interest: CalPers
Construction Status: Site prep/clean-up underway.
Cal Pers and partner CIM of Los Angeles, considering developemtn options for site.
CIM intends to use piles/foundation for a project that they say will be "iconic in nature"



K street condo tower(s)
800 block of K street
Two towers approx. 22-25 stories
220+ residential units per tower
28,769 sf retail
Developer: John Saca, Mo Mohanna, John Lambeth
Architect: Kwan Henmi



Capitol Lofts
@ 12th and R street
119 Warehouse Conversion Loft Units,
3K retail space
12th and R Street
Developer: Regis Homes
Architect: David Baker & Partners



Newton Booth
@ 27th and V Street
32 Residential units
Developer: LJ Urban
Architect: David Mogavero




East End Gateway
Site 1 @ 16th and N street
15 Stories
125 residential units
3,450sf ground floor retail
Status: Pending Design Commission approval



Crystal Ice Building (Inudstrial/Residential Rehab)
R Street between 16th and 18th
141 Residential units/retail and dining
Building height (up to) 7 stories
Developer Mark Friedman
Architects: GBD Architects




401 Broadway
@ 4th and Broadway




@ 1409 R street
12 residential lofts above reastaurant/bar which may include:
sake lounge and Japanese restaurant
"modern & hip" Hof Brau
bistro
coffee house
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Twelve
(12th/13th street at C street) T.O.D.
10 single family homes
30 lofts
1000 sf ground floor retail
Developer: Urban 44
Architect: Malcaullay + Architects



*3,000 condos/lofts (West Sacramento Riverfront) Friedman/Rumsey Band.

*SoCap Lofts (Phase II) 32 high density loft style homes South side of R Street between 6th and 7th street (2007)

*Cal Pers High density housing project on the South Side of R street between 3rd and 4th street

*61 single-family homes
21st and U street,
45 detached three-story townhouses
16 units will be 1,000-square foot carriage houses
Developer: Meridian of San Diego



Mixed Use Residential/Commerical/Retail/Hospitality


Capitol Grand Tower
@ 12th and J street
70 story 965' to spire
771' to roof

mixed use condo/hotel tower/office tower
1.17 million sf (total space)
54,634 sf commerical office
278 residential units
200 hospitality rooms
Developers: Mo Mohanna and California Medical Group
Architect: Nadel Architects Inc
Construction Status: Traffic study currently underway



701 L street
31 story mixed use residential/office 445'
80 residential units
240K commerical office space
10K retail
Developer: Danny Benvenuti
Architect: Hellmuth, Obata, Kassabaum (HOK)
Privately financed by developer and pending relocation of Greyhound Station




Riveredge
7 Towers (between 10 and 20 stories)
Along 14 acres of West Sacramento Waterfront
South of Tower Bridge and West Capitol Avenue
791 market residential units
104 affordable residential units
120k sf retail/commercial office space
200 room hotel
Developer/Architect Dean Unger and Associates
Status: Proposal/ financing not yet secured



1901 Broadway Mixed Use Development

The Broadway Lofts is a mixed-use, transit-oriented development (TOD) infill project. The site is located in the historic Tower District where Midtown meets Land Park, two of the central city´s best neighborhoods. Directly adjacent to the site is the Broadway Light Rail Station, in addition to several bus routes. The project will include a mix of retail, residential and office uses with some on-site parking. Residents will have easy access to the Light Rail Station for a quick commute to downtown employment centers. 1901 Broadway will apply `smart growth` principles to an underutilized site, utilize `green building` methods and `intelligent building` design principles. The Broadway Lofts will be the region`s first "Intelligent Green Building" and become a new landmark on Broadway.




Infill Development (Mixed Use)


UP Railyards (Sacramento Gateway)
240 acre redevelopment includes
12,000 residential units
low, mid and high-rise towers of up to 40 stories
3 million square feet of office space
1.3 million square feet of retail
Performing Arts Center
Arts Academy
Public market
Railroad Technology Museum
Bass Pro Shop signed letter of intent May 2006)
Developer: Thomas Enterprises (Atlanta)
Architect: Jon Jerde
Construction Status: Thomas Enterprise closed escrow on the 240 acres in December 2006.
Accelerated cleanup of contaminants over the next two years.




Township 9
River District (bounded by Richards Boulevard, North Fifth
and North Seventh streets and the American River)
$1.7 Billion Transit Oriented Development
3,000 condominiums, town houses and apartments on 65 acres
low, mid and high rise buildings
Developer:Capitol Station 65 LLC/Nehemiah Corp.
Construction Status: Pedning before the design Commission
Estimated groundbreaking 2008


The Docks...
Front street
Multiple mid/highrise towers
35 acre high density riverfront development between Capitol Mall & Broadway
23 acres North of Pioneer Bridge
14 acres South of Pioneer Bridge
Developer: Kenwood Investments (San Francisco)



*Two towers 20 and 15 stories
Mixed use commerical/residential
South of the 13th street RT Metro Station
between Q and R streets
Developer: John Freguson


700 Block of K street
Revitalization of 700 Block of K street
Developer: Joe Zeiden (Z Gallery Founder)
Retail to include: Borders, Urban Outfitter, Lucky Brand Dungarees and Sur la Table
Construction Status: parties currently in court to force land swap



*Raley's Landing West Sacramento Mulitple towers:
1) 'River One' is an 18 story 150+ unit residential tower 245,000sf commerical and 42,000 Restaurant/Retail
2) Washington street property 6 story 550 residential units (Panattoni Development)



Transportation



Sacramento Intermodal Transportation Facility
Rail: RT Metro Trains (local light rail), Capitol Corridor (Bay Area), San Joaquins (San Joaquin Valley),
Amtrak, Greyhound and Regional Transit as well as other Metropolitan transit agency buses.
The proposal moves the historic depot 350 feet north and restores its original use as a
waiting area and ticketing area.
Status: Planning process/Partial funds secured




Sacramento International Airport Phase II Expansion 2020 (and Beyond)
12 Gate Expansion of Concourse A
New 23 Gate Concourse C
New Automated People Mover from Central Terminal to Concourse A
New Automated People Mover from Central Terminal to Concourse C
Expansion of Central Terminal (Centralized ticketing and baggage handling for Concourse A, B and C)
New RT Light Rail station for Natomas/Airport extension.
New Parking Garage #3
Status: Phase II part of Airport Master Plan. Phase I EIR and design work currently underway




Arts/Cultural and Entertainment



Sacramento Center for the Perfroming Arts
13th and K Street Mall
Renovation of the City's 2500-Community Center Theater
Status: Intial funding provided for design work



Dining and Retail


* Westfield's Downtown Plaza (Remodel) Addtition of new 'Urban Target Store' as well as specialty grocer, relocation of theaters as well as Plaza improvements.


Recently Complete


Marriott
@15th and L street
15 story 150' hotel
250 hospitality rooms with 30 residential units on top 3 floors
Developer: Three Fires, LLC
Architect: Johnson Braund Design Group
Construction Status: Complete



M.A.R.R.S (Midtown Art Retail & Restaurant Scene)
20th street between K and J streets
2 Story 50,000 sf historic structure.
Interior and exterior renovation including the addition of an expansive pedestrian walkway and plaza
area spanning the full length of the building along 20th Street, as well as creative upgrades to the building exterior, lobby, and core areas.
M.A.R.R.S. is a unique, daring, urban, artistic, funky project right in the heart of Sacramento's Midtown Arts & Entertainment District.
Construction Status: Complete



Cathedral Building
@ 12th and K Street
4 story refurbishment of old Sears building
23 residential units
Spa
Ground floor dining
Developer: Bob Clippinger
Architect: FFA Design
Construction Status: Exterior and frame work complete/Interior work ongoing


(Photo Update courtesy of friedpez)

*Capitol Terrace 21st & L street; 65 units/3,000 retail (St. Anton)


*Fremont Mews 118 Lofts/22,000 sf community garden


*01 Lofts @ 16th & K street; 23 lofts/ground floor retail (Loft Works)


*Plaza Lofts 8th & J street
225 Lofts 22k sf Ground Floor Retail

(photo courtesy of Plinko)

L Street Lofts
@ L street between 18th and 19th streets
8 stories
92 lofts
6K sf ground floor retail
Developer: Sotiris Kolokotronis
Architect: Ankrom Moisan Associated Architects
Construction Status: u/c



*1801 L street at 18th and L street
5 Stories
187 rental units,
10K ground floor retail
Developer: Sotiris Kolokotronis
Architect: Vrilakas Architects


If anyone has any corrections to what is listed above, please feel free to post it and I'll make any necessary changes.
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Links to major Sacramento projects...


301 Capitol Mall (The Towers)
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=85715

500 Capitol Mall
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=116260

601 Capitol Mall (Aura)
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=90073

621 Capitol Mall (U.S. Bank Builidng)
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=86268

CalSTRS HQ
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=116795

Epic Tower
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=110616

Capitol Grand Tower
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=107705

Sacramento International Airport Expansion/Remodel/Transportation Forum
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=114398

Sacramento International Airport Expansion/Remodel/California Forum
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=114356
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Great thread. That Parthenon building is ridiculous, though. They should redesign that sucker before they build it.
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yeah, that thing is pretty fugly. I bet it gets set back to the drawing board for some major revisions after the design review board meeting
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almost forgot the big one...it's going to be a little while for this one though.

10K homes in the former railyards on about 240 acres, .. should be of all heights 4 to 20 stories and above. Density of about 60-75K per square mile..major density...not even including all the retail, office and other uses.

(prelim)
- 39 acre intermodal station
- 2.4M sf office
- 620K retail
- 300 hotel rooms
- 350K ft of public and cultural space.


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I think Aura is around 440 feet. And the model was made too dark. It should be a sky blue color.
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Great news for Sac it's finally getting a downtown that will be noticed.
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What is there to do in DT Sac? How does it compare to cities like New Orleans,San Antonio,San Diego cities that are known for having vibrant downtowns.
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Well, the cities you have listed are huge tourist destinations (especially SD and New Orleans during Mardi Gras). Sacramento doesn't have nearly the number of attractions you might find there. We have Old Town, the Capitol... the river is not really developed but there is a plan to build around it. The restaurant scene is definately getting good in both DT and midtown area (just east of the "core" downtown). I come from the east coast and find the food is getting very good.

There are also several small musuems that are good. But in general, I don't think Sacramento offers a lot of "vibrant" things to visit per se. It is more of a very nice work/live city that is close to major destinations (SF, Napa, Tahoe, etc).
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I totally agree with the restaurant scene. There are some real good eats. Now if we could get an Ethiopian place like the one I ate at on U street in DC, that would be awesome.

There are also plenty of night spots in Sac, the problem is that they aren't centrally located in one area (except old Sac). The nightlife, minus the restaurants, is kinda spread around the central core of the city.
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Yeah, I think this thread would be a lot better with some renderings (like the SD thread). It's hard to picture/comment on some of these projects without images.

I have renderings for just about every project urban listed above and then some. I'll throw them on here as soon as I get back to Denver and my own computer.
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Tsakopoulos Investments has a very strong influence in California. The mam would runs Tsakopoulos is Greek. That is the reason for the design. If he wants the tower built, it will be built.
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I like the Towers on Capitol Mall and Aura... The rest are so-so, with the Parthenon being quite sad.

These projects, if all built, should help Sactown's skyline really thicken up and become much more recognizable.
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Tsakopoulos Investments has a very strong influence in California. The mam would runs Tsakopoulos is Greek. That is the reason for the design. If he wants the tower built, it will be built.
I'm aware of Tsakopoulos' influence in Northern California, I grew up in Sacto and remember a lot of the smaller developments he pushed through. However, he doesn't rule the City of Sacramento with an iron fist, and hopefully the system works in this case. I appreciate the fact that he is celebrating his Greek heritage, but celebrating it with such an architecturally inappropriate design, especially at that scale, is just ludicrous. It makes no sense to plop a beautiful example of a low-rise classical building onto a modern high-rise structure. It's just plain poor taste.
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Great thread. That Parthenon building is ridiculous, though. They should redesign that sucker before they build it.

We're with you 100%. I overheard the project manager for 500 CM (which is the Parthenon) making fun of the replica on top of the building. Believe it or not though he said they have a lot of interested tenants. We're assuming form Sacramento's large greek community.


I think i could overlook the ridiculous Parthenon if the windows weren't so dark. BTW the guy who designed this also designed West Sacramento's Ziggaraut.


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What is there to do in DT Sac? How does it compare to cities like New Orleans,San Antonio,San Diego cities that are known for having vibrant downtowns.

Paul no offense but i've lived in San Antonio and DT San Antonio is isn't necessarily "vibrant" per se' along the lines of San Diego and New Orleans. The River Walk and River Center Mall are a wonderful anchor for DT San Antonio, but that's about as much as a tourist trap imo as Old Sacramento. As far as Downtown Sacramento and San Antonio, Sac offers more galleries, and pubs, that attract younger people imo. I also think there's a much larger variety of cuisine options, although SA Is a wonderful place to experience TexMex. I will say that I think that San Antonio does some things better than Sacramento (The River Walk) for starters and highway planning for another. However in the same respect, Sacramento has a few qualities i couldn't find in SA. Both are wonderful mid sized cities imo. San Antonio still ranks as one of my favorites.

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Parthenon
29-stories, 434 feet



I really hate this thing.
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Old Posted Aug 11, 2005, 5:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul in S.A TX
What is there to do in DT Sac? How does it compare to cities like New Orleans,San Antonio,San Diego cities that are known for having vibrant downtowns.

BTW and one more thing, I admittedly haven't been back to SA in four years so it's quite possible DT SA has taken off in terms of "vibrancy" I'll concede you would have better knowledge of it than me. San Antonio is my favorite Texas City and I loved living there. It has a natural beauty with the trees that reminds me of Sacramento.

I wouldn't mind getting out to see what's gone on development . I have a friend who happens to be an architect in SA.
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Old Posted Aug 11, 2005, 5:35 AM
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okay, this thread needs pictures

You forgot the 12th and K Lofts


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