YVR - Airport & Destinations Discussion - Page 211

Johnny Aussie · #**4201** Posted: **Apr 3, 2012, 3:00 AM**

^UA to LAX is year-round, EWR is seasonal.

trofirhen · #**4202** Posted: **Apr 3, 2012, 3:06 AM**

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Originally Posted by incognism

??? Ever heard of codeshares?

AS has 4X daily (codeshared by AA & DL)
WS has 2X daily (codeshared by AA)
AC has 4X daily (codeshared by UA)
UA has 1X daily (codeshared by AC) - seasonal, as mentioned by Johnny Aussie upthread

11 daily, not 20.

WHOOPS! There I go with another donkey remark!! But yes, I HAVE heard of codeshares.

SpongeG · #**4203** Posted: **Apr 3, 2012, 7:16 AM**

a 747-8 landing at YVR

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SpongeG · #**4204** Posted: **Apr 3, 2012, 7:20 AM**

i could end up watching these videos all night - damn you youtube

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Valley_Refugee · #**4205** Posted: **Apr 11, 2012, 12:08 AM**

A follow-up to Air Canada's YVR-DCA application - the responses from the American carriers:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe...rticle2397706/

deasine · #**4206** Posted: **Apr 11, 2012, 12:52 AM**

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Korean Airlines flight from YVR to Seoul forced to land at Comox Airport just now for an unknown reason. 149 people are on board - more info to come when we get details confirmed.

(via Global TV BC)

CPE · #**4207** Posted: **Apr 11, 2012, 1:26 AM**

Apparently its a bomb threat.

deasine · #**4208** Posted: **Apr 11, 2012, 1:38 AM**

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Korean Airlines flight forced to land at a B.C. military base due to in-flight emergency
Amy Judd, Global BC : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 5:50 PM

Breaking News
Global BC

Korean Airlines flight KE72, bound for Seoul, was forced to make an unscheduled landing at Comox military base on Tuesday afternoon.

The Boeing 777 took off from YVR at 2:35 p.m. but had to land at 19 Wing, Canadian Forces Base Comox at 5:30 p.m. for an unknown reason. The Royal Canadian Air Force said 19 Wing personnel are responding to an "in-flight emergency."

There are 149 people on board, and officials at YVR said everyone is safe.

"Wing emergency personnel are responding to the location and are securing the aircraft in accordance with normal procedures," said the RCAF. "All emergency services on the Wing have been activated."

Reports stated that a fighter jet from the military base escorted the airline in due to a possible threat on board.

We will update this post when more information becomes available.

Read it on Global News: Global BC | Korean Airlines flight forced to land at a B.C. military base due to in-flight emergency

(via Global TV BC)

ACT7 · #**4209** Posted: **Apr 11, 2012, 2:42 AM**

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Originally Posted by Valley_Refugee

A follow-up to Air Canada's YVR-DCA application - the responses from the American carriers:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe...rticle2397706/

On a smaller scale, this is the same argument AC has been using against EK and EY.

deasine · #**4210** Posted: **Apr 11, 2012, 3:18 AM**

Notice that the airlines against do not include United (or US Airways for that matter).

Bigtime · #**4211** Posted: **Apr 11, 2012, 12:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by deasine

Notice that the airlines against do not include United (or US Airways for that matter).

Yup, no surprise there. I'm sure we would see their code share flight numbers on this route if it were approved.

Yume-sama · #**4212** Posted: **Apr 11, 2012, 5:34 PM**

Air Canada upset that other airlines are meddling and trying to stop their planned routes~

That's rich.

And what's up with all the supposed bomb threats on Asian carriers out of Vancouver? CX has had several, and now Korean a few... I wonder if it's all the same person.

Bigtime · #**4213** Posted: **Apr 11, 2012, 5:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by Yume-sama

Air Canada upset that other airlines are meddling and trying to stop their planned routes~

That's rich.

And what's up with all the supposed bomb threats on Asian carriers out of Vancouver? CX has had several, and now Korean a few... I wonder if it's all the same person.

Nucks fans warming up for the cup run?

I'm sorry, that was just too easy.

Valley_Refugee · #**4214** Posted: **Apr 11, 2012, 6:46 PM**

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Air Canada upset that other airlines are meddling and trying to stop their planned routes~

That's rich.

I don't think the article suggested anywhere that Air Canada was upset per se. The article was based on the public documents that the other airlines get to file in response to each competitor's applications, as part of the application process. I'm sure Air Canada had the same opportunity to respond.

Yume-sama · #**4215** Posted: **Apr 11, 2012, 10:12 PM**

Well, I'm sure they're not happy about it.

Valley_Refugee · #**4216** Posted: **Apr 12, 2012, 7:02 AM**

Haha, no, definitely not. But I'm sure they got digs in at the others in their reply.

deasine · #**4217** Posted: **Apr 13, 2012, 12:48 AM**

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Qatar Airways in no rush to add CSeries but will order business jets
By Ross Marowits, The Canadian Press | April 12, 2012

MONTREAL - Qatar Airways is in no rush to add Bombardier's CSeries aircraft to its growing fleet but will order several business jets to expand its executive service, the airline's CEO said Thursday.
Akbar Al Baker said he will announce an order for Bombardier's new Global aircraft at next month's Ebace air show in Geneva, for delivery around 2016 or 2017.

The airline already operates a fleet of six Bombardier business jets. It hopes to eventually offer 10 to 15 aircraft, but Al Baker wouldn't say how many planes would be included in this order.
Qatar has shelved plans to order the CSeries while it is busy preparing to receive four new aircraft types — Boeing 787, Airbus A350 and A320Neo and another he didn't want to identify. The company is spending more than US$50 billion for 270 airplanes.

Nonetheless he remains interested in eventually ordering 20 to 30 of the larger version of the 110- to 149-seat commercial plane, plus adding as many options. The aircraft would be used for Qatar's regional service and flights of less than 2 1/2 hours from Doha.

"The CSeries is a very good airplane for a niche market," he told reporters after a lunch-hour speech.

"It is very fuel efficient and it is a very technologically advanced aircraft and I'm sure that Bombardier will be very successful in this venture."

Al Baker planned to tour Bombardier's production facilities and see the plane's updated cockpit and systems designs. The CSeries is slated to enter into service the end of 2013, with the larger model following a year later.

Bombardier (TSX:BBD.B) CEO Pierre Beaudoin said the company is still in discussion with Qatar over a CSeries order.

"It's a product that gives the performance that is needed in that region," he told reporters.
Beaudoin added that the train maker is also interested in metro, light rail and tramway projects that are planned for Qatar as it prepares to host the 2022 FIFA World Cup of soccer.

Meanwhile, Al Baker said Canadians deserve better airline service to the Middle East made possible by an expansion of the number of landing rights granted to Doha.

The three weekly flights launched last June from Montreal are running ahead of expectations and travelling 85 per cent full.

A similar number of cargo flights are offered weekly, along with return flights from the Middle East.

It would like to operate at least four flights a day from Montreal, Toronto, Calgary and Vancouver.
The outspoken airline executive accused Ottawa of blocking that expansion to protect Air Canada (TSX:AC.B) from competition.

"I don't think they are in collusion in any way, but the government is trying to protect Air Canada," he added.

Al Baker said he faces no such opposition anywhere else in the world and questioned why the federal government is protecting Canada's largest carrier and its alliance partners, even though it produces weak financial results and forces passengers to connect through inefficient airports.

"If I was the prime minister or if I was the government I would tell Air Canada to go to hell."
Qatar has no plans to withdraw service if it doesn't win additional landing slots and is not worried that blunt talk may hamper its efforts.

"At the end of day I'm a foreigner trying to serve the people of Canada and if I'm not welcome then fine," Al Baker said.

But he said the aggressive expansion plans by Qatar Airways and other Middle East carriers such as Emirates Airlines is a new model that won't disappear.

Air Canada CEO Calin Rovinescu has criticized efforts to use hubs in the Middle East for Canadian travellers. He has argued that an eventual reduction in traffic flow through hubs used by Air Canada and its Star Alliance partners would ultimately threaten the viability of direct flights from secondary Canadian airports.

Al Baker said that additional flights by Qatar can easily be accommodated to reduce flying time to 113 destinations through its gateway.

He said the more than 6,000 Canadians living in the Middle Eastern country, along with visitors, can bypass intense American security by increasingly flying to Doha.

"You don't want every Canadian to be looked at as a terrorist and go through unnecessary searches," he said in an earlier speech to the Montreal Council on Foreign Relations.
Montreal is Qatar's fourth North American gateway, in addition to Houston, New York and Washington.

Return travel costs around $2,300, including taxes, for direct 13-hour flights. That's several hundred dollars more than traditional routes through Europe but at a fraction of the time.

(via Canadian Business)

(emphasis mine)

trofirhen · #**4218** Posted: **Apr 13, 2012, 2:14 PM**

I'd be thrilled to bits if Qatar got landing rights at YVR (along with the others). Evil Emirates has Seattle in its slimy tentacles now. I wonder how much that's hurting American carriers from Seattle?

deasine · #**4219** Posted: **Apr 13, 2012, 5:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by trofirhen

I'd be thrilled to bits if Qatar got landing rights at YVR (along with the others). Evil Emirates has Seattle in its slimy tentacles now. I wonder how much that's hurting American carriers from Seattle?

Honestly though, with the exception of India, I can't see how gulf-state carriers can "add" to the destinations network. DOH/DXB/AUH, given their geographical location relative to cities on the west coast, are only reasonable alternatives to one-stop flights to India. For all other Asian destinations, it makes much more sense to fly via the Pacific. On the East Coast, however, there are a lot more opportunities. So honestly, I sort of fail to see how QR, EK, and EY can profit from providing service to YVR and YYC.

trofirhen · #**4220** Posted: **Apr 13, 2012, 6:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by deasine

Honestly though, with the exception of India, I can't see how gulf-state carriers can "add" to the destinations network. DOH/DXB/AUH, given their geographical location relative to cities on the west coast, are only reasonable alternatives to one-stop flights to India. For all other Asian destinations, it makes much more sense to fly via the Pacific. On the East Coast, however, there are a lot more opportunities. So honestly, I sort of fail to see how QR, EK, and EY can profit from providing service to YVR and YYC.

Does the world air market out of YVR stop at India and China? Having a destination like DOH is the perfect transfer point not only to other parts of the middle east, but also Cairo, Cape Town, Jo'burg..... It may not seem profitable RIGHT now, but wait a few years as Vancouver grows, and the destination markets along with it.

If not the Gulf States, then Istanbul would make a great connection point, too, but that's another dead issue; right now, anyway.