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Old Posted Dec 2, 2007, 11:34 PM
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I would not pay $1200 for a 540 sq ft unit.

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At a minimum it should decrease the depth of the demand side at top dollar and make other rentals more affordable after the market has had time to realize this change.
I hope you're right - it is definitely true that the housing supply needs a very diverse mix of types (luxury, affordable, rentals, condos, etc) to be able to meet the diverse 'market needs.'

I remembering renting a 350 sq ft studio in NW Portland for ~$435 a month. Most of my neighbors were (single) college students like me... then they started to move out when the rents increased, and suddenly I was the only one there: my next-door neighbors were married, in their 40s, just moved from NYC, had a BMW and Mercedes, and a kid (I think they were lawyers). In a FREAKING (crappy) STUDIO apartment?! I always thought that was a bizarre situation - but it was likely due to the lack of upper-end rentables.
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Old Posted Dec 3, 2007, 1:29 AM
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And I absolutely detest the Wyatt. ugh.
Me too. What a confused and retarded looking building.
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Old Posted Dec 3, 2007, 6:44 AM
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I would love to see a double curtain wall project built in portland...it would be educational for all in the city.

I think when it happens it won't be for housing..it will be for office or institutional use...and it certainly won't be for affordable housing. We've tried it a couple of times for class A projects and simply can't make it work financially.
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Old Posted Dec 3, 2007, 8:12 AM
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There already is one; it's on the McKenzie Architecture office/canoe center over south of the Hawthorne Bridge in the CEID. You should check it out sometime - very interesting.
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Old Posted Dec 3, 2007, 7:25 PM
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I have a couple shots of that curtain wall:



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Old Posted Dec 4, 2007, 2:47 AM
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Construction photo

I took the photos that comprise this image at about 1400 on Wed 05Dec07. The frames towards the center are precast concrete that was poured and cured at another location. The towers are poured in place. I understand that the towers have pilings underneath them instead of a pad/mat foundation. I need to ask again.


The previous image that I posted was horrible, so I replaced it.

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Old Posted Dec 4, 2007, 4:25 AM
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Construction photo

I took these photos at about 1230 on Wed 05Dec07. These towers are poured in place with mat/pad foundations underneath the towers.

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I've never seen this kind of construction method before. nice shot
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Old Posted Dec 4, 2007, 8:49 PM
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It's called cast-in-place concrete. It's very common with parking structures.
Block 2 is using a post tensioned concrete method which is what most of the Pearl District towers have followed.

Looks like the Machine Works building is following a cast-in-place method as well, but I've also heard that will be a steel frame building.
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Old Posted Dec 5, 2007, 12:02 AM
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Central City Concern, which develops and manages housing for lower-income residents, says its proposed 175-unit, family-oriented building will be entirely self-reliant as far as energy and water are concerned. The building will generate all of its own power and rely on nothing but rainwater for faucets, sinks, baths and washing machines. It will also treat its own wastewater.
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The 17-story building would cost about $60 million to design and construct,
The project sounds good, but the price tag sounds low.

Does anyone have any idea what it would cost to add the 3 systems described:
  • PV panels adequate to supply 175 apartments
  • water storage and pumping for 175 apartments, and
  • on-site waste treatment and re-use for 175 apartments
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I think when it happens it won't be for housing..it will be for office or institutional use...and it certainly won't be for affordable housing. We've tried it a couple of times for class A projects and simply can't make it work financially.
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There already is one; it's on the McKenzie Architecture office/canoe center over south of the Hawthorne Bridge in the CEID. You should check it out sometime - very interesting.
Prior to the building zilfondel referenced, it was done at OHSU down at South Waterfront. It occurs at the top two floors on the south side of the building. Its easy to see on the little spinner thing on GBDs website:

www.gbdarchitects.com



Something like this can work for housing, but its a hard sell when the entity paying for the building isn't the entity paying the heating bill. Could work possibly work for apartments where the developer is also the long term owner (like a Trammel Crow scenario). The example at OHSU had a quick payback and the owner jumped on board as it will save them money pretty quickly and they didn't mind looking through 2 "windows" to see outside.
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I took these photos at about 1230 on Wed 05Dec07.



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⇑ You're doing a great job getting around the city and taking this photo's....it's appreciated!
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^agreed
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⇑ You're doing a great job getting around the city and taking this photo's....it's appreciated!
No kidding, seems like there are pictures of every project going on in the city from Castillonis! keep it up much appreciated.
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^^^Yes, thanks Castillonis.
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^^^^
Even though I'm lucky enough to drive by all of these projects several times a week, it's still great to see the pictures on here and keep a visual record of the progress. So ditto.... thanks to all those that take the time to do this.
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Old Posted Dec 11, 2007, 8:31 PM
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Not even close. Group Mackenzie trumps whatever LRS can churn out!
I forgot about them.
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Old Posted Dec 15, 2007, 8:35 AM
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just noticed these renderings over at myhregroup.com... i like this quite a bit, although i heard somewhere that they didn't pass design review. i guess the facade is kind of busy.
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