Calgary International Airport - Page 331

Cage · #**6601** Posted: **Jun 6, 2012, 6:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by YYCguys

Where is the regional area going to be located at YYC? And where are regional aircraft currently parking due to IFP construction seemingly edging them out of their current parking area?

Current Air Canada Express (regional aircraft) park at newly constructed section of gates 1-7. These gates create a horseshoe at the east end of the domestic terminal. Once IFP is completed, it appears the AC Express aircraft will move over to concourse B/C (old international gates).

From the David Parker article I could not figure out his incorrect terminology of Regional Terminal. Parker is actually referring to the Concourse A upgrades that were conducted last year. Concourse A has moved around several gates (10, 12, 14 and 11) inorder to create a new gate 12 and to reposition gate 11 to accomodate new gates 1-7.

Bigtime · #**6602** Posted: **Jun 7, 2012, 1:03 PM**

A forumer over at airliners.net did up a list of all YYC departures by AC for summer 2012, thought some here would find it interesting:

YCG: 1x DH3
YXC: 1x DH1, 2x BEH
YEG: 1x CRJ, 15x DH3, 1x DH1
YMM: 1x CRA, 4x CRJ, 2x DH3
FRA: 1x 333
YQU: 4x DH3
IAH: 3x CRA
YKA: 2x DH3, 1x DH1
YLW: 4x DH3
LAS: 1x E90
YQL: 1x DH3, 1x DH1, 3x BEH
LHR: 1x 77W
LAX: 2x E90
YXH: 4x BEH
YUL: 1x 320, 1x 319, 2x E90
EWR: 1x 319
YOW: 3x E90
PDX: 1x CRJ
YQR: 4x CRJ
YXE: 6x CRJ
SEA: 2x CRJ
NRT: 1x 763
YYZ: 2x 321, 12x 320, 1x 319, 1x 763
YVR: 2x 319, 13x E90
YYJ: 4x CRJ
YXY: 2x CRJ
YWG: 3x CRA, 2x CRJ
YZF: 2x CRJ

Total: 1x 77W, 1x 333, 1x 763, 2x 321, 13x 320, 5x 319, 21x E90, 7x CRA, 28x CRJ, 29x DH3, 4x DH1, 9x BEH, 122x Total

halifaxboyns · #**6603** Posted: **Jun 7, 2012, 8:40 PM**

There seems to be a small error in the list - the YYZ flight is missing the 763. The NRT flight coming back to Canada goes NRT-YYC-YYZ and then does YYZ-YYC-NRT heading to Japan?

Bigtime · #**6604** Posted: **Jun 7, 2012, 8:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by halifaxboyns

There seems to be a small error in the list - the YYZ flight is missing the 763. The NRT flight coming back to Canada goes NRT-YYC-YYZ and then does YYZ-YYC-NRT heading to Japan?

Good catch, you are correct. I'll change the list to reflect that.

You Need A Thneed · #**6605** Posted: **Jun 7, 2012, 10:29 PM**

Airport Trail tunnel update for June.

Cage · #**6606** Posted: **Jun 7, 2012, 10:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by halifaxboyns

There seems to be a small error in the list - the YYZ flight is missing the 763. The NRT flight coming back to Canada goes NRT-YYC-YYZ and then does YYZ-YYC-NRT heading to Japan?

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Originally Posted by Bigtime

Good catch, you are correct. I'll change the list to reflect that.

Tyhe 763 only does yyz-yyc 1-2 times per week, the other times the aircraft turns around in YYC.

Also a bit of colour on the airliners thread. The original poster only looked at all flights by aircraft type for Thursday July 26th. On this day the 763 only does NRT. The date used for calculation purposes is important to determine the type of aircraft used on a particular route. For example in the weekends there are more E90 flights on YYZ run and YVR run sees 1-2 more CRA departures.

Johnny Aussie · #**6607** Posted: **Jun 8, 2012, 2:57 AM**

Looks just like my data. Spot on. Mine is based on weekly flights. So it takes into account different weekend services / aircraft mix etc. Just too lazy to post. Ha.
One thing to note is we are down to only 44 mainline flights per day. There has been a gradual shift down since our peak in about 2005. I am overseas right now so do not have access to that data right now. Also did anyone else notice but for the first time YYZ will have more Westjet flights than YYC this summer... can be attributed to the new LGA flights.

Bigtime · #**6608** Posted: **Jun 8, 2012, 12:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Also did anyone else notice but for the first time YYZ will have more Westjet flights than YYC this summer... can be attributed to the new LGA flights.

Very interesting, but not surprising. I assume there will be much more growth opportunity for WS to tap into from YYZ than there is from YYC.

Cage · #**6609** Posted: **Jun 8, 2012, 1:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by Bigtime

I assume there will be much more growth opportunity for WS to tap into from YYZ than there is from YYC.

True that YYZ has more gorwth opportunities than YYC. Another big factor specific to WS is that YYZ does not have other large stations near it. YUL and YHZ are much smaller stations for WS than YEG and YVR.

cyeg66 · #**6610** Posted: **Jun 11, 2012, 8:53 PM**

April stats published. Wow. International, ironically, doing well ever since LH pulled out.

Bigtime · #**6611** Posted: **Jun 11, 2012, 9:12 PM**

10.7% up for international in April? That is nuts. Domestic growth remains strong, transborder is pretty low (but at least still positive).

Johnny Aussie · #**6612** Posted: **Jun 11, 2012, 9:50 PM**

^ Yeah! YYC turbos ahead in April.

Overall up 6.7% (YTD 6.2%)
Domestic up 7.6% (YTD 6.3%)
Transborder up 1.8% (YTD 6.9%)
International up 10.7% (YTD 3.9%)

Similar to March - the increase in sun-flying has really increased Int'l despite the loss of LH.

Cage · #**6613** Posted: **Jun 13, 2012, 3:24 PM**

[QUOTE=Johnny Aussie;5730533Similar to March - the increase in sun-flying has really increased Int'l despite the loss of LH.[/QUOTE]

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Originally Posted by cyeg66

April stats published. Wow. International, ironically, doing well ever since LH pulled out.

LH pulling out did not have that big of an impact on the market because LH was not carrying that many passengers. Loads in the front cabins (First and Business) were terrible and LH has 63 fewer economy seats than AC on comparable aircraft (compare LH 333 with an AC 333).

Also consider the gross effect on LH pullout was 3% of international passengers. Further AC increased capacity to account for another 1.5 percentage points. THe net effect of LH pullout was to remove a lot of empty seat capacity from ther YYC international market.

I suspect a BA pullout followed by return of weekly charter or two would have the same effect on YYC international passengers.

halifaxboyns · #**6614** Posted: **Jun 13, 2012, 5:24 PM**

What I find interesting about AC's summer schedule is that there are no direct YHZ services anymore. I remember when I was still in university back in Halifax and they started the flight and it was constantly busy - when I'd want to come visit, I could never get a cheap seat. So I'd always end up on my favorite flight, good old AC121 which at the time started in YHZ, stopped in YYZ and came to YYC as a 767-200.

Then Canadian added a flight and then when the merger happened, there were two flights at day between YHZ-YYC during the high season and then one a day in winter.

But once Westjet got in the market, it started to get bad for AC. It stayed at once a day, then only once a day in the summer. Then only certain days in the summer and now gone. Sad how they lost that flight - it was always good when I'd go home. They only use it during the Christmas rush when they add extra flights now.

CalgaryLankan · #**6615** Posted: **Jun 15, 2012, 2:28 PM**

Interesting day turning up at YYC for spotters and photographers if the weather clears up.

World Airways MD-11 arriving at 11.45 from Brize Norton (Thanks for the early morning tweets from WeeinYYC/Bigtime)

Other birds are;

Arkefly B763 arriving at 16.10
Edelweiss A332 arriving at 11.30

Policy Wonk · #**6616** Posted: **Jun 15, 2012, 11:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by Cage

Enerjet started with 2 73G, then went to 1 73G, then to 1 738, now back to 1 73G and finally back to 2 73G. There was also a breif time when Enerjet had no aircraft, IIRC.

No, they had to have an airplane on property to keep their operating certificate... so they transferred a a Piper Comanche to the numbered company.

yyc_engineer · #**6617** Posted: **Jun 21, 2012, 8:06 PM**

Hey everyone,

This may not be the right place to post this but since you guys are avid aviation enthusiasts I thought you may have the answer...

I'm flying to ORD in July via YWG (2 hr layover...I know, I know, who connects in Winnipeg...) The flight is AC Express to YWG then United Express to ORD. I am planning on checking in a bag and was wondering if anyone has had any experience with AC's checked bag policy to the US if your first flight is a domestic one? Their current policy is 1 free checked bag on domestic flights but charge for 1st checked bag to US...since this routing is domestic first then US I am wondering if I can skirt paying the checked bag fee?

Thanks

Canadian74 · #**6618** Posted: **Jun 21, 2012, 9:15 PM**

Similar situation, but in this case all flights are with Air Canada/Air Canada Express. YYC-YVR-SEA. Do I get 1 checked bag free?

CalgaryLankan · #**6619** Posted: **Jun 22, 2012, 1:01 AM**

On Sunday June 24th there will be an event at YYC to pull UPS A300 as a fundraiser for Unitedway. Link provided below.

http://www.calgaryunitedway.org/main/uwplanepull

Cage · #**6620** Posted: **Jun 22, 2012, 2:51 AM**

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Originally Posted by yyc_engineer

Hey everyone,

This may not be the right place to post this but since you guys are avid aviation enthusiasts I thought you may have the answer...

I'm flying to ORD in July via YWG (2 hr layover...I know, I know, who connects in Winnipeg...) The flight is AC Express to YWG then United Express to ORD. I am planning on checking in a bag and was wondering if anyone has had any experience with AC's checked bag policy to the US if your first flight is a domestic one? Their current policy is 1 free checked bag on domestic flights but charge for 1st checked bag to US...since this routing is domestic first then US I am wondering if I can skirt paying the checked bag fee?

Thanks

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Originally Posted by Canadian74

Similar situation, but in this case all flights are with Air Canada/Air Canada Express. YYC-YVR-SEA. Do I get 1 checked bag free?

If your final destination or point of origin is the USA, then Transborder bag charges apply.