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Old Posted Nov 4, 2010, 2:46 PM
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Boisecynic welcomes the Henry's project but is somewhat unimpressed. Typical suburban style box stores. It appears all of these were existing buildings. Does anyone know if the Boise project is their first build-from-scratch job? Regardless, a central-business-district pedestrian-scene store seems to be a first for them. I wish them best of luck.

Newest Henry's, Elk Grove, Ca, Open May 2010: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...05407&t=h&z=18

Most comparable and most urban, Pacific Beach is very similar to the North End: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...05407&t=h&z=18

Also urban, SD's Normal Heights neigborhood: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...05407&t=h&z=18

Austin: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...05407&t=h&z=18

Poway: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...,5.05,,0,17.59

Carlsbad: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...,75.64,,1,3.39

Carlsbad2 http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...122.15,,0,1.07

Santee: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...,0.021629&z=16

Chino Hills: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...,0.005407&z=18

Corpus Christi: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...78412&t=h&z=17

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Thank god Idaho voted for the airport amendment... now we can see some direly needed airport expansion in the near future, including but not limited to runway extensions/improvements, new taxiways, funding for improved cargo facilities and a sorely needed new parking garage.
I am happy this passed. I bet there is a short bald chubby man in Boise who likes to put a wrench into progress and he is most likely very upset
     
     
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I am happy this passed. I bet there is a short bald chubby man in Boise who likes to put a wrench into progress and he is most likely very upset
Ha! Frazier can suck it!

If he is opposed to it, it's most likely a good idea.

I'm glad all those ballot measures passed, these are things that get to costly to arrange as a vote, have low turnout, and have to contend with that archaic 2/3 majority crap.
     
     
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Does anyone know what used to be on that lot where Henry's is going to be built? It has been vacant as long as I can remember.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 4, 2010, 4:09 PM
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Ha! Frazier can suck it!

If he is opposed to it, it's most likely a good idea.

I'm glad all those ballot measures passed, these are things that get to costly to arrange as a vote, have low turnout, and have to contend with that archaic 2/3 majority crap.

lol...yeah suck it!!


I am sure he is brainstorming.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 4, 2010, 4:17 PM
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Boisecynic welcomes the Henry's project but is somewhat unimpressed. Typical suburban style box stores. It appears all of these were existing buildings. Does anyone know if the Boise project is their first build-from-scratch job? Regardless, a central-business-district pedestrian-scene store seems to be a first for them. I wish them best of luck.
Maybe this will satisfy some of your concerns...then again maybe not. These pictures show how the grocery store and additional retail building will be oriented to the street. I am pretty impressed. It's how I was wishing it would turn out when I made a comment previously hoping for multiple entrances and no setbacks.




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Old Posted Nov 4, 2010, 8:24 PM
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Good find Visualize. Thx for resizing and rehosting.
     
     
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lol...yeah suck it!!


I am sure he is brainstorming.
Yeah, probably a frivolous lawsuit at taxpayer expense....
     
     
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mmmmmm. Here is some positive news and there has been news in the near past saying Idaho would be a leading state coming out of the national recession.

The entire story at the link.

http://www.ktvb.com/news/Economist-I...106706479.html

Economist: Idaho tops for job growth in next 5 years

BOISE -- About 700 people attended the Annual Economic Outlook Forum at the Boise Centre this morning.

The theme was "The Boise Valley - A Cradle of Innovation.”



Church said a national economic forecast firm ranks Idaho the number one state in the nation for employment growth over the next five years.
That same firm predicts the Gem State with have the fifth highest population growth.

Another focus of today’s event talked about the nearly dozen start-up companies that are growing the local economy at a grass roots level.
     
     
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Does anyone know what used to be on that lot where Henry's is going to be built? It has been vacant as long as I can remember.
It's been vacant for as long as I can remember too.
     
     
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Boisecynic welcomes the Henry's project but is somewhat unimpressed. Typical suburban style box stores. It appears all of these were existing buildings. Does anyone know if the Boise project is their first build-from-scratch job? Regardless, a central-business-district pedestrian-scene store seems to be a first for them. I wish them best of luck.
I'm not terribly impressed either.

This location was where the Metropolitan was supposed to be built. Guess this means the Metropolitan is officially dead.
     
     
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I'm not terribly impressed either.

This location was where the Metropolitan was supposed to be built. Guess this means the Metropolitan is officially dead.
Sadly, I'd say the Met has been dead for quite some time.

I approve of it, simply because it seems like a place that I would frequent since its close by, and at this point I'm just desperate to see SOMETHING built downtown. Even my opinions toward JUMP are quickly shifting in favor of it simply because I have to drive by that dull empty eyesore of a lot almost everyday now.

And, actually, I'm really quite fond of the most recent models and renderings of JUMP... If we can get that going, and get a few other developments going, then maybe the gears can roll a little bit and we can see further developments in the future.
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I agree about JUMP. I went to the open house last night, it was crowded and I heard a lot of people complaining that the design review committee is being way to picky. People in Boise want this built and after seing the models and what will be included on the grounds and on each floor of the building, I feel the same...get this built, this will attract so much more development into downtown. The billboard on the corner of 9th and Front has a JUMP promo on it now so Simplot does not appear to be giving up. One of the presenters said that the city wants a traffic light and an exit at 10th and Front which would mean a road through the park and would break up the flow of the park. Why would the city want a traffic light at 10th and Front I don't see the purpose. If the project were divided into four blocks I could see that purpose. Anyways I am sick of seeing those empty lots and how much longer will they remain if this isn't built? Compromise needs to be met so that this great project can start. There are plenty of other lots for highrise buildings.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2010, 4:41 PM
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I agree about JUMP. I went to the open house last night, it was crowded and I heard a lot of people complaining that the design review committee is being way to picky. People in Boise want this built and after seing the models and what will be included on the grounds and on each floor of the building, I feel the same...get this built, this will attract so much more development into downtown. The billboard on the corner of 9th and Front has a JUMP promo on it now so Simplot does not appear to be giving up. One of the presenters said that the city wants a traffic light and an exit at 10th and Front which would mean a road through the park and would break up the flow of the park. Why would the city want a traffic light at 10th and Front I don't see the purpose. If the project were divided into four blocks I could see that purpose. Anyways I am sick of seeing those empty lots and how much longer will they remain if this isn't built? Compromise needs to be met so that this great project can start. There are plenty of other lots for highrise buildings.
Oh no! The open house was yesterday? For some reason I thought it was in mid-December. I looked it up and that's when the appeal decision was. Sad day, I missed it!

What was it like? Would you say there was probably a majority amount of people in support of the project?
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Oh no! The open house was yesterday? For some reason I thought it was in mid-December. I looked it up and that's when the appeal decision was. Sad day, I missed it!

What was it like? Would you say there was probably a majority amount of people in support of the project?
It was part of First Thursday last night and was in the Alaska Building. I was there for maybe 30 minutes and it was so crowded it was hard to walk around, plenty of wine flowing, but the impression I had, from hearing discussion and such, is people like this and want it built. I did not hear any negative comments about the project, but did hear several negative comments regarding the Design Review Committee. The models showed what each floor of the main building would have and I was impressed and the park looks like it will be uber classy.



PS. Considering that Boise and Idaho are predicted to be a top performer coming out of the recession, this project along with Whole Foods and Henry's could really catapult more development into downtown and maybe revive some of the projects on hold. Hell, we have one of the most attractive downtown's in the West, and JUMP will make downtown even more of a shining star.

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I suppose the Simplot's should have presented a square, brown building.
     
     
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I agree about JUMP. I went to the open house last night, it was crowded and I heard a lot of people complaining that the design review committee is being way to picky. People in Boise want this built and after seing the models and what will be included on the grounds and on each floor of the building, I feel the same...get this built, this will attract so much more development into downtown. The billboard on the corner of 9th and Front has a JUMP promo on it now so Simplot does not appear to be giving up. One of the presenters said that the city wants a traffic light and an exit at 10th and Front which would mean a road through the park and would break up the flow of the park. Why would the city want a traffic light at 10th and Front I don't see the purpose. If the project were divided into four blocks I could see that purpose. Anyways I am sick of seeing those empty lots and how much longer will they remain if this isn't built? Compromise needs to be met so that this great project can start. There are plenty of other lots for highrise buildings.
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I hope when this is built that it will spur another development on that lot behind the Cabana booty call hotel.
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Have you been to the little museum they have up there?
Yes, I've been through the museum and most of Idaho City but it was many many years ago.
     
     
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I just read on the ID Statesman website that Walmart will be buying the land on the NW corner of Ten Mile & McMillan for their 2nd Meridian Store.

Well, at least Jobs will be coming...

I'd be interested in what is planned for the (Phase II) of the Whole Foods lot. I agree that if it were, say a Walmart or another Albertsons that I wouldn't be in love with the site going purely commercial, but I'm curious how ambitious they will be with the (Phase II).

And just to throw my opinion in... I am still excited for JUMP. A couple of the quirks (Color, Tractors & Spirals) are not my favorite. But, I'd like that greenspace downtown. Perhaps in the LONG LONG run they may re-develop the park area into high-rises, but for now I like the green space and potential to spur construction perhaps on the high-rise proposed at one time for the SE corner of Capitol & Front?
     
     
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