Boise Development Thread

[City Of Trees]

On the downtown St. Luke's buildout, I am not happy that they are going to build over Jefferson Street. Any hopes of some day having State Street being a one-way street is probably shot if the buildings are constructed as planned. If only it could be aligned just a tad differently....

[boisecynic]

Harris Ranch Build out? Whoa whoa whoa. I've never heard anything about density like that shown in those renderings.

Regarding the Wave, I haven't been there yet when someone wasn't taking pictures.

Also this week, framing has finally begun at the Riverview Rehab place. I'll try to get pics tomorrow.

[Visualize]

Originally Posted by boisecynic

Harris Ranch Build out? Whoa whoa whoa. I've never heard anything about density like that shown in those renderings.

I'm sure you've seen this, but check out the Harris Ranch Master Plan map. This area will be very impressive when it's all said and done.

http://www.cityofboise.org/Departmen...vemp2-2-07.pdf

[Evo5Boise]

Wow, I am impressed with both the St. Lukes master plans. Very awesome indeed.

Also, I too had not heard of that type of dense development in Harris Ranch. Very cool!

[eastidaho]

Originally Posted by boisecynic

Regarding the Wave, I haven't been there yet when someone wasn't taking pictures.
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Years ago, on a warm summer night, they would hold a freestyle competition on a wave about 30 miles north of Eagle. They brought in some flood lights, large white canopy, pumped music through some large speakers, drinks, and different groups would freestyle for 20 minutes at a time. The guy or gal that pulled off the best tricks on the wave would win a small cash prize. Any word if they are going hold any events at this spot?

[boisecynic]

Originally Posted by eastidaho

Years ago, on a warm summer night, they would hold a freestyle competition on a wave about 30 miles north of Eagle. They brought in some flood lights, large white canopy, pumped music through some large speakers, drinks, and different groups would freestyle for 20 minutes at a time. The guy or gal that pulled off the best tricks on the wave would win a small cash prize. Any word if they are going hold any events at this spot?

The wave you're referring to north of Eagle is Horseshoe Bend's Gutter I think. I've been there, it's a pretty cool spot, fairly isolated too to be so close to Hwy 55.

The Gutter. Credit and copyright go to McLaughlin Whitewater Design Group.



Two more here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/5761551...7625749580841/

I haven't heard anything about competitions at Ray Neef Park, but I would bet money it will happen soon. The current project is just the first phase and it's a play wave only. If I'm not mistaken, a slalom course is the phase 2 proposal for the area downstream to the next canal's headwaters. It's about 1100 feet.

I'm not a kayaker so I don't know what a serious competition venue needs. I'm pretty sure Reno's WW Park has play waves and a slalom course.

The place to read about is Charlotte's US National Whitewater Center:

http://www.usnwc.org/

BTW, Visualize, I had never seen that H. Ranch plan, thx for the link. Thx for the pics Sawtooth.

[BOI-IDA]

Originally Posted by BoiseAirport

Jackpot! This is why I do my monthly Google searches for Boise project renderings. Check out these new renderings of the new St. Luke's Heart Center, from different perspectives. (At least I've never seen these before)

Great find, BoiseAirport. I especially like these two renderings that show what appears to be a 9 story atrium connecting the two towers. Sweet!

But as much as I like the atrium, I also agree with City of Trees about the closure of Jefferson Street. (I never was a fan of the City of Boise allowing St Luke's to close Bannock Street either.) I would rather see it remain open with the possibility of it and State Street someday becoming a couplet from Avenue B to perhaps 23rd Street.

St Luke's could just as easily connect this new tower to the existing one with a skybridge. As can be seen in these two renderings, one is already planned to span Avenue B to connect the soon-to-be-built medical building, so why not do the same for the new cardiac tower? They also have a parking garage spanning 1st Street as well. So it is not like they lack the know-how to design new buildings that will allow the existing streets to remain open.

[BoiseAirport]

This was posted in February, but it's still relevant. It's an update on the Zonda USA bus manufacturing facility in Boise.

http://zondausa.com/Zonda_USA/News/E...ade_Forum.html

Agreements Announced at Los Angeles US-China Economic & Trade Forum

LOS ANGELES, Calif. – Zhongda Industrial Group has appointed Zonda USA, LLC as its sole sales, service and manufacturing arm in the United States and assigned Zonda USA worldwide sales and marketing responsibilities for the entire Industrial Group.
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The planned operations in Idaho envisions an electric bus manufacturing facility and facilities to support sales and service for all of the Zhongda Industrial Group’s products.

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Zonda USA expects to announce details of its US production plans in the next sixty days.

Very exciting stuff. I'm really interested to see what the scale of this project is and what it could mean for the economy in the valley.

[boisecynic]

Originally Posted by BOI-IDA

...But as much as I like the atrium, I also agree with City of Trees about the closure of Jefferson Street. (I never was a fan of the City of Boise allowing St Luke's to close Bannock Street either.) I would rather see it remain open with the possibility of it and State Street someday becoming a couplet from Avenue B to perhaps 23rd Street.

St Luke's could just as easily connect this new tower to the existing one with a skybridge. As can be seen in these two renderings, one is already planned to span Avenue B to connect the soon-to-be-built medical building, so why not do the same for the new cardiac tower? They also have a parking garage spanning 1st Street as well. So it is not like they lack the know-how to design new buildings that will allow the existing streets to remain open.

I don't see where it appears Jefferson would be closed. It looks like they rendered a sky bridge to me. Disclosure: I regularly have to travel from the east end to the west end and Jefferson is by far the best way to do this. Front: no reason to add another car to Front when I don't want to go to the connector. Idaho: Can be busy and lots of pedestrians, keeping Jefferson open reduces potential car/pedestrian conflicts on Idaho and Bannock. And State St: pffft, I avoid State Street downtown like the plague.

And no they shouldn't have closed Bannock at St Lukes, either. The grid was built for a reason. I've even suggested the Grove Plaza should be reopened. Look at the success of Bodo. I attribute it at least in part to the mews style streets they created in Bodo. I haven't heard of a single pedestrian/cyclist accident with a car in Bodo since it opened.

Funny that 23rd comes into the conversation because 23rd used to go straight thru where the connector is and connected to River St. They should have kept that one open too as it provided the only direct CBD bypass from NW Boise to 9th and River (BSU).

[Visualize]

^The skybridge is going over Ave. B. The block bound by Fort, Jefferson, and 1st is where the new tower is going to go. Jefferson will be completely covered.

Totally agree with you on 23rd St. That is even where State St. bottlenecks, it couldn't be more logical and efficient to still have 23rd connect with River.

[City Of Trees]

I have an old street map from 1980 that shows a proposed State/Jefferson couplet that would have began on the west end in between 21st and 19th. That wouldn't have been a good idea, as it would have cut into the clearly residential part of Jefferson west of 17th. My idea would be to start it in between 17th and 16th, and on the east end, curve it back around to State/Fort while providing a proper intersection with Reserve Street (that intersection has always been dodgy). I should probably mock up a drawing later on that if I have time.

[City Of Trees]

Originally Posted by boisecynic

Funny that 23rd comes into the conversation because 23rd used to go straight thru where the connector is and connected to River St. They should have kept that one open too as it provided the only direct CBD bypass from NW Boise to 9th and River (BSU).

23rd also used to be a state highway. Think about that.

I could understand the logic of the tradeoff by providing an additional exit from the connector, though. I really wish they would have done the same on the other side by adding an on-ramp from the end of 17th to the Connector. It's annoying as hell to either have to backtrack all the way to 9th or have to go down 35 mph Main Street for about a mile. There's no good way to get directly to the Connector from most of the North End.

[Sawtooth]

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a few Spring extras

[boisecynic]

Nope, do not want. Hopefully ACHD will laugh at this.

[BoiseAirport]

Here's an update to the main page. I decided to scrap the Excel file as it was a bit cumbersome to edit and I thought it was a bit redundant with the information displayed below it. I also changed the format a little bit so it's easier to read and communicates more information with less space. This way I can put in more projects and master plans showing long-term planning. What do you folks think?

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Boise Development Thread
"The Athens of the Sagebrush" - Clarence Darrow on Boise, 1907

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→ Active Projects ←
We are actively finding and receiving updates on these projects. Also includes projects
under construction.

Eighth & Main
Zions Bank Regional Headquarters
Office Tower
Floors: 16-20
Status: Groundbreaking Imminent

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JUMP - Jack's Urban Meeting Place
Mixed Use Arts/Community Center + Urban Park
Floors: 7-14
Status: Under Construction

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St. Lukes Cardiovascular Tower
Hospital Tower
Floors: 6 (Jefferson Plaza), 9 (Cardio Tower)
Status: Proposed

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River 8
Condominiums
Floors: 6
Status: Proposed

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River Edge
Apartments
Floors: 5
Status: Approved

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916 Park
Mixed-Use
Floors: 4
Status: Approved

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Mercy Housing
Affordable Housing
Floors: 3
Status: Proposed

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Harris Ranch
Residential Community
Floors: Various
Status: Complete/Proposed

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Whole Foods Development Phase I
Commercial
Floors: 1-3
Status: Under Construction

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Boise State - Bronco Stadium Expansion
University
Floors: N/A
Status: Groundbreaking Imminent

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Boise State - Athletic Facility Expansion
University
Floors: 3
Status: Groundbreaking Imminent

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Boise State - College of Business and Economics
University
Floors: 5
Status: Near Completion

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Esther Simplot Park
Park
Floors: N/A
Status: Approved

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Dona Larsen Park
Park
Floors: N/A
Status: Under Construction

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Boise River Whitewater Park
Park
Floors: N/A
Status: Near Completion



→ Inactive/Visionary Projects ←
These projects have been in headlines in recent years, but have recently been quiet
for a variety of reasons. Status is generally unknown, and could be alive or dead.
This list also includes visionary projects which may be fundraising, but have no set design or
construction date.

Capitol Plaza
Office Tower/Mixed-Use
Floors: 14
Status: Inactive - Not Dead (as of Feb 2011)

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Capital II Tower
Office Tower
Floors: 11
Status: Unknown

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Broad 5
Office Tower
Floors:
Status: Unknown

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Capital Terrace Apartments/Condominiums
Apartment/Condominium
Floors: 2+8
Status: Unlikely

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Whole Foods Development Phase II
Condominiums
Floors: Unknown
Status: Unknown

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Downtown Transit Center/Multi-Modal Center
Floors: 3-7
Status: Vision

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Light Rail/Downtown Circulator/Trolley
Floors: N/A
Status: Vision

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New Convention Center
Floors: Various
Status: Vision

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New Convention Center - Marriott Hotel
Floors: 10
Status: Vision

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Boise Public Market
Floors: 2-3
Status: Vision

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Capitol Connector Building
Floors: 6
Status: Probably Dead but the sign is still up and it's a cool looking building and I'm a glass half full kind of guy

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Scentsy Office Tower (Meridian)
Scentsy Offices
Floors: 6
Status Proposed

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Fifth + Main
Mixed-Use
Floors: 4
Status: Approved

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Boise State Alumni Center
University
Floors: 4
Status: Vision

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New Boise Hawks Stadium
Stadium
Floors: Various
Status: Vision

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War Eagle Speedway
Racing Complex
Floors: N/A
Status: Probably Dead but it was a neat ambition so I'm putting it here

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Sunergy Solar Farm
Solar Power Plant
Floors: N/A
Status: Unknown



→ Comprehensive Master Plans ←
This is how our current leaders see Boise in 20-30 years. And by the looks of it, the future is bright!

Blueprint Boise - City of Boise Master Plan

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Boise West Side Master Plan
2001

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Old Boise - River - Myrtle Master Plan
2004

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30th Street Redevelopment Master Plan
March 2010

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Pioneer Corridor Master Plan

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Boise State University Campus Master Plan

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Boise Airport Master Plan
April 2010

[boisecynic]

Good job BoiseAirport! I think you've left out the Riverview Rehab and the Senior Apartments at 12th and River.

So many pics recently. Here's a few more: Pioneer Path to the Wave tour.



























Of course it starts getting cloudy before I could complete my mission.


Joe's Crab Shack needs more bicycle parking.


These signs showed up in just the last few days.

[BOI-IDA]

Originally Posted by boisecynic

Surely they intend to paint the new footbridge.

I would certainly hope so anyway. The colors on the Pioneer footbridge are okay and might look good on this bridge.

With all the signage on these bridges, a person seeing these pictures for the first time, and who didn't know otherwise, might get the impression that the Boise River is a major commercial waterway, and not simply the floaters' paradise that it is.

[boisecynic]

Originally Posted by BOI-IDA

Surely they intend to paint the new footbridge...

It's a special alloy that develops a patina and rusts no further. You can see this alloy on the Maple Grove Bridge over I84 and the East Parkcenter Bridge. For the life of me I can't find the info on this. I think I even posted about it once.

It's not the best looking stuff but it saves big bucks on maintenance, i.e., it never needs painting.

[Sawtooth]

Sexy format BoiseAirport.

[City Of Trees]

Why oh why is it called the 36th St Bridge? It doesn't even run in the same direction as Garden City's 36th Street, and you also have to deal with Boise's 36th Street Confusion. It should have been called either the Pleasanton or Adams Bridge, or something different altogether.