Boise Development Thread - Page 355

Cottonwood · #**7081** Posted: **May 16, 2012, 3:03 PM**

Wasn't Capitol Blvd's bridge just resurfaced last year before the geothermal line was placed underneath it? I vaguely remember closed lanes and construction on that bridge before the line was strung, but Capitol on each side needs to be re-surfaced after being torn up for the geothermal line.

boisecynic · #**7082** Posted: **May 16, 2012, 3:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by City Of Trees

:waves:

Back when I lived near Barber Park the ride to downtown was very doable all the way down the Greenbelt, and I'd have a straight shot into the heart of downtown by taking the Municipal Park spur that crosses Walnut and then follows Front Street for a little while. However, once you hit Broadway....ugh. I'd have to deal with merging with Front Street traffic for several blocks before I could find a way to get off.

It's probably too late to build it now, given how tight the buildings are in this corridor, but I really wished they extended this spur to follow the power line right of way so that this path could go all the way to the 3rd & Grove intersection. Something like this:

Funny you brought that up because on Sunday I rode my bike into that St Lukes parking garage and to the back lots of several of those businesses (Ronald Mcdonald house?) on the south side of Main St. I was actually scoping out if it's doable. There's a canal and some other major problems but it probably is doable. I've suggested in the past that they punch the street car through there.

Also, where you veer off Front, there's a ditch or an old sandstone block lined flume that otherwise would be a good shortcut into the new Dona Larsen Park. It looks like people have beaten a path through there but now there's a big old fence blocking the way.

City Of Trees · #**7083** Posted: **May 16, 2012, 9:21 PM**

What really needs to be done with that Capitol/University intersection is that it needs to be a semi-freeway interchange like on Broadway/Federal Way. The sheer amount of cars, bikes, and pedestrians on that intersection mandating so many different traffic requests means that something needs to be overpassed or tunneled eventually. I think I remember that ACHD or COMPASS had a plan to do this, but it got abandoned. With COBE in place there may not even be enough room to do it anymore.

kingchef · #**7084** Posted: **May 16, 2012, 11:44 PM**

is the addition to the marriott convention center hotel to be added to the 17 story tower or the 13 story tower? will the new luxury hilton, w/ the entrance dome, be a total exceeding the new 12 story lebonheur tower at 257 ft? i heard that the hilton will be about 15 ft higher. just wondering.

BoiseAirport · #**7085** Posted: **May 17, 2012, 1:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by kingchef

is the addition to the marriott convention center hotel to be added to the 17 story tower or the 13 story tower? will the new luxury hilton, w/ the entrance dome, be a total exceeding the new 12 story lebonheur tower at 257 ft? i heard that the hilton will be about 15 ft higher. just wondering.

Wrong thread?

Boisebro · #**7086** Posted: **May 17, 2012, 1:54 AM**

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Originally Posted by BoiseAirport

Wrong thread?

i hope not!!!!

Cottonwood · #**7087** Posted: **May 17, 2012, 3:06 PM**

New food and ice cream shacks near the new whitewater park on the greenbelt

and the Russian Food Fest is this weekend.

http://www.boiseweekly.com/boise/rus...nt?oid=2652495
Russian Food Festival Readies the Cabbage Rolls
And Momo Dumplings gets a premanent home
by Tara Morgan @tarabreemorgan

Speaking of new fast-food options, a seasonal grab-and-go restaurant called Yak Shack will open Saturday, May 19, from 4-7 p.m. at the Boise Whitewater River Park across from Quinn's Pond. The Yak Shack will carry an assortment of cold drinks and snacks for ka-yak-ers in addition to Sugar, Sugar handcrafted gourmet ice cream sandwiches. Yak Shack will only be open Thursdays-Sundays from 10 a.m.-9 p.m. seasonally, and will offer barbecued "winner winner chicken dinners" in the evenings.

The shack is currently located on Idaho River Sports' property, but owners plan to open a brick-and-mortar restaurant by 2014 in a nearby building. For more info, visit yak-shack.com or sugarsugarid.com.

http://yak-shack.com/

and of course the Eagle Island Experience for all of the hippies and hipsters

http://www.gruntwerks.net/gruntwerks/eei2012.html

el conquistador · #**7088** Posted: **May 17, 2012, 4:12 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cottonwood

New food and ice cream shacks near the new whitewater park on the greenbelt

and the Russian Food Fest is this weekend.

http://www.boiseweekly.com/boise/rus...nt?oid=2652495
Russian Food Festival Readies the Cabbage Rolls
And Momo Dumplings gets a premanent home
by Tara Morgan @tarabreemorgan

Speaking of new fast-food options, a seasonal grab-and-go restaurant called Yak Shack will open Saturday, May 19, from 4-7 p.m. at the Boise Whitewater River Park across from Quinn's Pond. The Yak Shack will carry an assortment of cold drinks and snacks for ka-yak-ers in addition to Sugar, Sugar handcrafted gourmet ice cream sandwiches. Yak Shack will only be open Thursdays-Sundays from 10 a.m.-9 p.m. seasonally, and will offer barbecued "winner winner chicken dinners" in the evenings.

The shack is currently located on Idaho River Sports' property, but owners plan to open a brick-and-mortar restaurant by 2014 in a nearby building. For more info, visit yak-shack.com or sugarsugarid.com.

http://yak-shack.com/

and of course the Eagle Island Experience for all of the hippies and hipsters

http://www.gruntwerks.net/gruntwerks/eei2012.html

I've had those MoMo dumplings at Saturday Market. I would sell boisebro for medical experiments for those, they are awesome!

Boisebro · #**7089** Posted: **May 17, 2012, 5:00 PM**

new meridian park about to open soon.

here's a nice 3D video that shows the plan:

http://exposureroom.com/members/Meri...75cb8ad442891/

couple of stills:

Boisebro · #**7090** Posted: **May 17, 2012, 5:34 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cottonwood

New food and ice cream shacks near the new whitewater park on the greenbelt

and the Russian Food Fest is this weekend.

http://www.boiseweekly.com/boise/rus...nt?oid=2652495
Russian Food Festival Readies the Cabbage Rolls
And Momo Dumplings gets a premanent home
by Tara Morgan @tarabreemorgan

Speaking of new fast-food options, a seasonal grab-and-go restaurant called Yak Shack will open Saturday, May 19, from 4-7 p.m. at the Boise Whitewater River Park across from Quinn's Pond. The Yak Shack will carry an assortment of cold drinks and snacks for ka-yak-ers in addition to Sugar, Sugar handcrafted gourmet ice cream sandwiches. Yak Shack will only be open Thursdays-Sundays from 10 a.m.-9 p.m. seasonally, and will offer barbecued "winner winner chicken dinners" in the evenings.

The shack is currently located on Idaho River Sports' property, but owners plan to open a brick-and-mortar restaurant by 2014 in a nearby building. For more info, visit yak-shack.com or sugarsugarid.com.

http://yak-shack.com/

in my dreams... at least, the clean ones... i've imagined the area around this new whitewater park included a lot of open space and take-out food places like the yak-shack, and the new trolley line serving that area to spur some nice mixed-density residential/mixed use developments.

then i wake up in a park in caldwell, soaking wet, holding a broken fishing pole, wondering why i'm wearing bleached overalls, a tan shirt and a plaid scarf with the initials "S.Z." on them.

BoiseAirport · #**7091** Posted: **May 18, 2012, 10:14 PM**

Disappointing news. First Boise Music Festival, now Brewforia.

Boise’s brewhaha: City, beer festival split up

May 18th, 2012

Read more: http://www.idahostatesman.com/2012/0...-festival.html

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For the past three summers, thousands of craft beer enthusiasts have filled Ann Morrison Park to taste samples of the best brew the American West has to offer.

Boise police didn’t report any major public safety problems, and Barley Brothers Traveling Beer Festival was considered a gastronomic and financial success — and deemed a key part of the burgeoning craft beer scene in Idaho’s capital.

But that’s not the case in 2012. The city is suing festival owner Brewforia Beer Market for $7,886 plus interest, saying the organizers owe about $4,000 for turf damage and garbage cleanup at Ann Morrison and another $3,693 to cover the cost of police protection for last August’s festival. Parks and Recreation officials say they don’t want the festival back this summer.

Festival organizer Rick Boyd says he is tired of dealing with Boise park officials and is taking the event to Meridian.

Cottonwood · #**7092** Posted: **May 18, 2012, 10:31 PM**

That does stink. Hopefully they work out the issues for next year.
I mean, who wants to go to a beer fest in a park in Meridian on Fairview and Eagle Road? It is a nice new park, but the foilage is small and there is a Wal Mart across the street. I disagree with the organizers opinion that the new park in Meridian is nicer than Ann Morrison Park because Meridian's has more parking lol. Ann Morrision is in a league of its own and nothing in Meridian can beat the large shady trees and river of Ann Morrison as well as the downtown location with the greenbelt handy for buzzed beer drinkers to bike home on. I have to say I don't feel bad the Music Fest moved to the fairgrounds because that was just too much for Ann Morrison, way too many people (100,000 estimated) packed into the park and when that many people get together to party then damage will always happen.

Visualize · #**7093** Posted: **May 19, 2012, 12:39 AM**

Is there a reason they can't just have the beer festival in the large parking lots of the office buildings just west of 9th, or along ParkCenter??...obviously with the owners consent. The event is only going on during the weekend when nobody is parked there anyway...seems like a good use and location to me. They are going to trash that new park in Meridian, kind of a shame, that park seems more like a Kathryn Albertson type park than one for holding events like a beer festival. Maybe Boise needs to consider building a large urban park comprised of mostly trees and cement, ala the Grove on a larger scale, or JUMP without all the grass.....but like I said, no reason some of the huge parking lots wouldn't work, unless there is some other issue I don't know about.

Also...parking spaces for a beer festival???....is that a good thing???

boisecynic · #**7094** Posted: **May 19, 2012, 5:21 PM**

Joe's Crab Shack land being ceded by Boise to Garden City in return of 9 acres of river land from the canal separting Joe's and Riverside Hotel to the footbridge. Good, maybe we can change the name of the footbridge now. Reason: Boise wants police enforcement powers on river (no beer?). The stretch's Greenbelt will still belong to Garden City and will be maintained to Garden City's 528.0 root humps per mile standard and dusk to dawn curfew.

Source docs: http://pdsonline.cityofboise.org/pds...00004&type=doc

PDF Map: http://pdsonline.cityofboise.org/pds...03161502507970

boisecynic · #**7095** Posted: **May 20, 2012, 2:01 PM**

Here's another head scratcher, actually this one is an ass chapper.

Historic Preservation Nimbys Defy Common Sense

1715 N 7th, a real dump, has been denied a demoliton permit. Source: http://pdsonline.cityofboise.org/pds...04031554485090

I dare any of you Historic Preservation people to come on this forum and discuss this blatant abuse of power. No wonder Boise is number 5 in the nation for restrictive zoning.

Visualize · #**7096** Posted: **May 20, 2012, 2:21 PM**

^^
Wow. That's the type of home families skip on Halloween. It's not even representational of the neighborhood, or a good example of a specific architectural style. At 666 sqft, and a 2011 assessed value of $131,000, which will probably plummet further or lock it in now that it's very clear historic restrictions are placed on it, rendering the 5,600 sqft of land virtually worthless, its not even close to the North End average of $342,527. That sucks for the neighborhood as a whole, much less the property owner.

isangpogi · #**7097** Posted: **May 20, 2012, 3:19 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by boisecynic

Here's another head scratcher, actually this one is an ass chapper.

Historic Preservation Nimbys Defy Common Sense

1715 N 7th, a real dump, has been denied a demoliton permit. Source: http://pdsonline.cityofboise.org/pds...04031554485090

I dare any of you Historic Preservation people to come on this forum and discuss this blatant abuse of power. No wonder Boise is number 5 in the nation for restrictive zoning.

I read through most of it. Seems like the commission was pretty positive about the proposal until the neighbors testified. Most of the testimonies were pretty unsubstantial. Example: "I'm worried about the trees, sounds like most can be saved so now I just don't like the idea of new construction here" (not an exact quote). Also "several of the neighboring homes were probably brought from the mines so they are historically significant." That one seems to have been the swaying point for the board, even though there is no evidence that this particular structure had been transported from mining camps.

I agree that proposals like these should be fully thought-out, all points need to be considered before demolishing an older structure. It's like giving the death penalty, all evidence needs to be combed over and over again, because once it happens there is no going back. If in fact this structure IS a former mining camp cabin, then somebody might be willing to buy and pay to have it renovated. But bringing up that point was a definite stall tactic.

I seriously disagree with Derek Hurd from the North End Homeowners Association. He says that in 50 years these newer homes being built will not contribute to the neighborhood. How though, would a dilapidated 600 sq. ft. home contribute? The current owner testified to the fact that he does not have the financial resources to renovate the home. It's clear the price tag for a renovation would be at least $125,000. Good luck finding someone to pay that much for 600 sq. ft., and that would be AFTER paying the current owner market value for the home and land. They'd be looking at over $200k for 600 square feet. No wonder people are moving to Meridian!

Sawtooth · #**7098** Posted: **May 20, 2012, 6:25 PM**

Sawtooth · #**7099** Posted: **May 20, 2012, 6:40 PM**

Above photo shot from this location

View from the URS side of Broadway Ave.

I had to post these. A few minutes bike ride from Broadway and at the intersection of Park Boulevard and Parkcenter Boulevard. When I see beasts like this in the downtown area I am reminded of how magical Boise is and at the same time realize that we are in their way.

BOI-IDA · #**7100** Posted: **May 20, 2012, 8:30 PM**

Thanks for the pics, Sawtooth. Nice to see how things are progressing at DLP.

That Bambi is a cute little thing.

I know it is early, and they have a few months to go, but surely there are many more bleachers yet to be assembled for the football field. These bleachers they are installing are supposed to be the old NEZ bleachers from Bronco Stadium, which had a capacity of about 1,300 and is only enough to do one side of the field.

Isn't DLP is supposed to seat about 5,000? If so, they must be installing new ones as well, because I don't think they are bringing the old SEZ bleachers over too. Aren't those supposed to be relocated to the NEZ at Bronco Stadium?

Just wondering...