PHILADELPHIA | 10 Rittenhouse Square | 390 FT / 119 M | 33 FLOORS - Page 14

phillyfan · #**261** Posted: **Jan 26, 2007, 1:24 AM**

ill cry if this project has died

Jayfar · #**262** Posted: **Jan 26, 2007, 1:51 AM**

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Originally Posted by skyscraper

I don't have confirmation or any details, but I just heard through a reliable source that this project has just died.
Stay tuned for details.

That would be more than a little bizarre, considering the steady site prep work and the construction trailer going in just this week.

skyscraper · #**263** Posted: **Jan 26, 2007, 2:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jayfar

That would be more than a little bizarre, considering the steady site prep work and the construction trailer going in just this week.

I hope I'm wrong about it, but my source (my boss, who also lives on Rittenhouse Sq) told me yesterday. Still looking for independent confirmation.

LostInTheZone · #**264** Posted: **Jan 26, 2007, 4:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by skyscraper

I don't have confirmation or any details, but I just heard through a reliable source that this project has just died.
Stay tuned for details.

rumormongering of this sort is forbidden.

Lincolndrive · #**265** Posted: **Jan 26, 2007, 7:30 PM**

^^ I took a cruise down to 18th and Sansom today and I do think it's quite ironic that the day this rumor comes out, things actually start to heat up on the site. I talked to one of the fellas from Turner construction who said things were going ahead as planned and what I had heard really was a rumor. He laughed at me in fact and said, "take a look buddy. We've already started and need to dig a hole first!" He said the prep work was going to keep going for a couple months before anything interesting would happen. There were at least 10-15 people working actively on the site with 2 huge dump trucks taking out load after load of soil (not to mention the construction trailer previously mentioned below). There really was, for the first time in a while, a lot of activity on site.

Skyscraper, I'm sure you were just repeating what your boss had said, but I think your boss may be confused or just thinking about a different project perhaps. Please try not to scare us like that again until you have something a bit more concrete

LostInTheZone · #**266** Posted: **Jan 26, 2007, 7:41 PM**

pretty much every single construction thread, people complain about how long foundation prep work takes. perhaps we would learn to stop being surprised every time this happens.

skyscraper · #**267** Posted: **Jan 26, 2007, 7:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by Lincolndrive

^^
Skyscraper, I'm sure you were just repeating what your boss had said, but I think your boss may be confused or just thinking about a different project perhaps. Please try not to scare us like that again until you have something a bit more concrete

Believe me, I was not just trying to start a rumor for the hell of it, especially for a project that I would love to see completed. I was trying to see who else heard this and might have more information. I asked my boss who told him that the project was dead, and he told me it was one of the builders. so I'm not sure what to make of this myself, and I am sorry if this has caused more angst and anguish than is necessary.

Capsule F · #**268** Posted: **Jan 26, 2007, 8:29 PM**

This is a win win situation either way. I really want this project to get built it would be awesome, but if it isnt built those morons that held it up for years will get a dirt lot. Serves them right either way.

Swinefeld · #**269** Posted: **Jan 27, 2007, 2:49 AM**

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Originally Posted by Lincolndrive

^^ I took a cruise down to 18th and Sansom today and I do think it's quite ironic that the day this rumor comes out, things actually start to heat up on the site. I talked to one of the fellas from Turner construction who said things were going ahead as planned and what I had heard really was a rumor. He laughed at me in fact and said, "take a look buddy. We've already started and need to dig a hole first!" He said the prep work was going to keep going for a couple months before anything interesting would happen. There were at least 10-15 people working actively on the site with 2 huge dump trucks taking out load after load of soil (not to mention the construction trailer previously mentioned below). There really was, for the first time in a while, a lot of activity on site.

Skyscraper, I'm sure you were just repeating what your boss had said, but I think your boss may be confused or just thinking about a different project perhaps. Please try not to scare us like that again until you have something a bit more concrete

Thanks, Linc. I was going to take a walk down there today but I had errands to run so I couldn't make it. Plus it was too bloody cold.

This isn't the first slow-as-molasses construction project to be dogged by rumors of cancellation. We have to be careful about "reliable" sources.

Hal · #**270** Posted: **Jan 28, 2007, 4:14 AM**

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Originally Posted by LostInTheZone

pretty much every single construction thread, people complain about how long foundation prep work takes. perhaps we would learn to stop being surprised every time this happens.

However, in Philly, the foundation permit can be a seperate permit from the building permit..

That's how they put in the foundation at 19th & Market years ago, then backfilled them and planted grass.

I forget if any foundations were actually poured for the Disney hole.

Similarly, I belive that if you look at Manayunk, the former Carmella's formerly (Arroyo Grill) had a very small building on a foundation which was reportedly designed to support a hotel in the early 1990s...

Hal

sjones · #**271** Posted: **Jan 30, 2007, 7:43 PM**

I went by there today and there is significant progress on the site excavation and there are 2 back hoes on site right now. It looks like we will be seeing action from this point forward.

omp835 · #**272** Posted: **Jan 30, 2007, 8:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by skyscraper

Believe me, I was not just trying to start a rumor for the hell of it, especially for a project that I would love to see completed. I was trying to see who else heard this and might have more information. I asked my boss who told him that the project was dead, and he told me it was one of the builders. so I'm not sure what to make of this myself, and I am sorry if this has caused more angst and anguish than is necessary.

let this be a lesson to you....never listen to your boss.

Swinefeld · #**273** Posted: **Jan 31, 2007, 1:32 AM**

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Originally Posted by sjones

I went by there today and there is significant progress on the site excavation and there are 2 back hoes on site right now. It looks like we will be seeing action from this point forward.

Thanks. I was just going to report the same thing. The pace has really been picked up lately.

stampy88 · #**274** Posted: **Jan 31, 2007, 3:44 PM**

Don't know how reliable the sales people are, but I was talking to one who said the delivery date is March 2009

bryson662001 · #**275** Posted: **Feb 3, 2007, 3:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by stampy88

Don't know how reliable the sales people are, but I was talking to one who said the delivery date is March 2009

That's cutting it close.......in fact there is no way. If they start building tommorrow it will be at least until March of '08 before they even pour the ground floor assuming there is some garage below street level. I doubt if they can build and finish the tower itself in one year.

SJPhillyBoy · #**276** Posted: **Feb 3, 2007, 11:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by stampy88

Don't know how reliable the sales people are, but I was talking to one who said the delivery date is March 2009

They are not reliable. They will say almost anything to sell you a condo.

Eigenwelt · #**277** Posted: **Feb 3, 2007, 11:54 PM**

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sjones · #**278** Posted: **Feb 5, 2007, 8:39 PM**

I would say people could move in 24-30 months from now so late Spring 2009 may be a reality. The bottom line is that this project is behind their previosuly announced schedule of fall 2008. The pace has been glacial to say the least. The foundation alone is likely to take 8 months so they have a long way to go.

Lincolndrive · #**279** Posted: **Feb 8, 2007, 6:34 PM**

I stopped by today and confirmed that there are almost 20 people working on-site and they have about 15-20 feet more to dig before the caissons would start going in. The hole is starting to look pretty big now. Traffic is going to be a nightmare when the real construction starts.

sjones · #**280** Posted: **Feb 9, 2007, 6:49 PM**

I went by there the other day as well and things are looking good. There was a cement truck on site pouring near the base of the adjacent building. I saw a dump truck haul off a load of dirt as well. The hole is growing by the day. It looks like there will be continuous action from now on.