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Here's an image of the whole complex that I took out my window:

     
     
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wicked! Man that podium is massive! I suppose a lot parking because it Chicago and not below grade?
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^ Yes and also for a rather large hotel ballroom, and other commercial space (a bit of retail, a bit of office), in the floors where you see continuous glass.
     
     
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Here's an image of the whole complex that I took out my window:
So the pool is still filled in November?!?
     
     
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So the pool is still filled in November?!?
Actually, I took this picture a couple of weeks ago. They did something with the pool now, but I'm not sure what. I'll take a closer look when I get home tonight.
     
     
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^^^Trump Tower.
Good call, but I'd also point out that its not entirely a condo tower. I feel like Trump is a different case for several reasons. 1. Its so tall that balconies towards the top would be extremely uncomfortable. 2. Its an extremely thin tower on a constrained site where adding balconies would likely have cut into the sellable space/FAR of the units. 3. Its not really a "condo" tower, its retail, 12 floors of parking, a restaurant, 20 or so floors of hotel, 20 or so floors of Hotel-condo, and 40 floors of condos, its difficult to practically integrate balconies into such a highly mixed use design.

But, minus those technicalities, you are right that it lacks balconies. But seriously, other than Trump has there been another major condo tower in Chicago without balconies?
     
     
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Lol I was just playing devil's advocate, but yes you make good points
     
     
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But seriously, other than Trump has there been another major condo tower in Chicago without balconies?
Olympia Centre, One Mag Mile, Millennium Centre, Lake Point Tower, River East Center, Chicago Place

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Olympia Centre, One Mag Mile, Millennium Centre, Lake Point Tower, River East Center, Chicago Place

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Again, going back to the original question, in the last 20 years. Only Millenium Center, River East Center, and Chicago Place (barely) fit under those definitions. Almost all condo towers built in Chicago now have balconies. The buildings of high modernism in Chicago probably only had balconies about 50% of the time, but now almost all of them do. In either case, there are just as many buildings with balconies here as there are in Miami. Especially when you take into account all the north lakeshore buildings like those in LP and Edgewater.

The point of the question is not to create a comprehensive list of every condo tower without balconies in Chicago, but to point out that balconies are a nearly universal feature in modern condo developments.

Another good point is, does Marina City belong in Miami because its covered in balconies? No.
     
     
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Update released by Magellan 11/3/09:

"...Construction progress continues to be on-schedule at Aqua with a Certificate of Occupancy expected to be granted by the city through floor 69. Closings are occuring through floor 62 at this time. Condominium Club Suite furniture was delivered last week and looks fantastic. Artwork and accessories will follow..."
     
     
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Another good point is, does Marina City belong in Miami because its covered in balconies? No.
no because marina city is dark concrete and not glassy
     
     
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no because marina city is dark concrete and not glassy
Marina City is just as glassy as Aqua is. I mean tell me this is not a glassy building:


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The only reason it looks less glassy than Aqua from a distance is that the balconies on MC are full of people's stuff that blocks the view of the glass...
     
     
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Kamin weighs in...

"Waves of creativity: Aqua, the world's tallest building designed by a woman, is one of Chicago boldest--and best--new skyscrapers"

http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune....boldestan.html
     
     
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Again, going back to the original question, in the last 20 years. Only Millenium Center, River East Center, and Chicago Place (barely) fit under those definitions. Almost all condo towers built in Chicago now have balconies. The buildings of high modernism in Chicago probably only had balconies about 50% of the time, but now almost all of them do. In either case, there are just as many buildings with balconies here as there are in Miami. Especially when you take into account all the north lakeshore buildings like those in LP and Edgewater.
I don't think it's the fact that Aqua has balconies that makes it look "tropical" but everything, as a whole. I've seen a lot of pictures of Chicago, I've seen that dozens of buildings have balconies, and they all look good (well except for some really tacky ones).

I don't think this building doesn't fit in Chicago, it's actually a really nice building. But some of those waves are too trippy, too random looking (I know that they're not random (or at least I think they're not since everyone keeps telling me that they're designed for the city, that it's part of the city and whatnot)), too sharp, you get the point. That enough out of me for the waves.

It's a nice buildings. I just think it could've been better.

Also, it bothers me when people respond with "people are just not used to the fact that an odd building is being built in a minimalist city and think it belongs in Dubai because Dubai is the devil!"

I never said it belongs in Miami, I never said it belongs in Dubai. I said it has a Miami (aka tropical) vibe to it and the result probably could've looked good in these cities. The way I see it, just because it's in Chicago doesn't mean it's a masterpiece. I've seen some good 'foreign' designs that would be praised upon if they were in Chicago. But that's a whole other topic, for a whole other forum. Let's just keep this about Aqua. I was just trying to clarify something.
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i can't for the life of me understand why people are still pounding the "this looks like a miami building" drum when aqua is CLEARLY of a distinct chicago ancestry as the strange and beautiful love child between miesian austerity and goldbergian funk. this building is 100% chicago, and those that can't (or don't want to) see that need to do some more studying about the history of chicago architecture.

you can love the building. you can hate the building. you can be indifferent about the building. but the fact remains that it's ALL chicago.
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Although it would be naiive to think that Miami is architecturally one dimentional, many tall buildings in tropical climates are designed with exaggerated "eaves" to mitigate direct exposure to the sun. . . Miami is no exception and I think the comparisons people are making has to do with Aqua's balconies and that it's painted white. . . beyond that the only remaining similarity is the pool. . .

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Waves of creativity: Aqua, the world's tallest building designed by a woman, is one of Chicago boldest--and best--new skyscrapers

From Sunday's print edition

Aqua, the spectacular new Chicago skyscraper with the sensuous, undulating balconies, is the pearl of the long-running, now-ending Chicago building boom, a design that is as fresh conceptually as it is visually.

A skyscraper typically consists of repetitive, right-angled parts, a money-saving device that frequently produces aesthetic monotony. But in this defiantly non-Euclidian high-rise, almost nothing seems to repeat.

Its white, wafer-thin balconies bulge outward, each slightly different than the other. They race around corners and shoot upward in fantastic, voluptuous stacks. This is a new vision of verticality and it makes Aqua one of Chicago’s boldest — and best — skyscrapers in years.

Located just north of Millennium Park at 225 N. Columbus Dr., the 82-story tower is still in the finishing stages, so it is impossible to fully assess whether its function is as successful as its form. Nonetheless, it can be said that Aqua is remarkable on several counts.



Aqua is remarkable on several counts.

It is the tallest building designed by a woman-owned architectural firm and the first skyscraper from Chicago’s Jeanne Gang, of Studio Gang Architects, who is just 45 years old. Aqua also is a real estate miracle: Its financing documents were signed in late August 2007 — just before the credit crunch hit it. Had the tower been delayed by 60 to 90 days, says the building’s architect-of-record and co-developer, Jim Loewenberg, it might never have been built.



None of this would matter without Gang’s singular design (left), whose three chief components are hotel space (for now, without an occupant) on floors 4 through 18, apartments on floors 19 through 52 and condominiums from floors 53 to 81. There are also shops, parking and townhouses facing an adjoining park.

Essentially, then, Aqua is a residential skyscraper, a place to live (or sleep) rather than a place to work. And it fully takes advantage of the aesthetic freedom afforded by that identity, which means it doesn’t have to be tidy and buttoned-down, like a corporate headquarters.

Santiago Calatrava’s design for the 150-story Chicago Spire also promised to endow the skyscraper genre with a new sculptural freedom. Due to the recession, the Spire remains nothing more than a hole in the ground. But at least we have Aqua.

The story of how this tower came to be is already the stuff of legend: In 2004, Loewenberg, a veteran Chicago architect and developer who had blighted River North with banal high-rises, was seated next to Gang, a rising star whose then-tallest independently completed work was a Rockford community theater that had a 90-foot-tall fly tower, at a Harvard Club dinner where Frank Gehry was the speaker.
Loewenberg was looking for a young architect who would produce an out-of-the-box design for a tall tower at Lakeshore East, which rises west of Lake Shore Drive and south of the Chicago River. In Gang, he found one.

Responding to the site for the proposed tower, which was surrounded by a forest of nearby high-rises, she and her colleagues produced a novel concept: A skyscraper whose balconies would be stretched outward, by anywhere from 2 to 12 feet, to capture views that would not be available otherwise. If you lived on the east side of the tower, for example, you wouldn’t just see Lake Michigan. You would be able to peer through the thicket of adjoining high-rises and see Millennium Park.

In turn, Gang sculpted the balconies into a larger visual order inspired by the layered topography of limestone outcroppings along the Great Lakes. Reflecting her talent for giving poetic form to mundane materials, the design seized on the plasticity of concrete. When the plan was unveiled in 2006, it prompted raves from critics — and no small amount of private sneering from some of Gang’s male competitors, who clucked that the balconies would be mere decorative appendages.



Yet the nearly finished outcome richly fulfills the promise of Gang’s concept. The balconies elevate an otherwise-ordinary concrete-framed structure to the level of art.

From afar, to be sure, the balconies don’t have much of a skyline impact. But as you move closer and see Aqua from oblique angles, they become a stunning presence, flowing like ocean waves across the facade (left) and forming organic, irregularly shaped towers within the tower. Crucially, the thin metal pickets on the balconies fade from view, allowing the tower’s sculptural forms to predominate.

In the 1920s, the great flourishes of tall buildings came with richly decorated bases and highly articulated tops. The middle was almost an afterthought, simply a way to connect these two parts. At Aqua, the old base-middle-top formula is out. The top is conspicuously flat. It is the middle, with its playful bulges, that is the star.

The balconies, it turns out, were not a wild extravagance. The premium for them, Loewenberg says, was about 1½ percent of the building’s $325 million construction cost, which works out to about $4.87 million — not a bad deal considering all the buzz they generated.

Contractors built the balconies by loading Gang’s specifications for the curving balcony edges directly into a surveying tripod with a built-in computer. That allowed them to bend steel formwork to precisely the contours Gang and her colleagues designed.

In a further display of the virtues of customization, Gang tweaked the balconies for sun-shading, making them deeper on the south than on the north. She and Loewenberg also put as many balconies as possible next to living rooms, thus forming visual extensions of the living spaces. Finally, the oval-shaped “pools” of glass between the balconies use a tinted, reflective glass (as opposed to the clear glass employed elsewhere) to prevent apartments from overheating.

These features allow Aqua to rise above a criticism frequently leveled at such “wow” buildings — that they are simplistic one-liners where form overrides function. At Aqua, there is a reason for everything. If the tower indulges in expressionism, it is at least a rationalized expressionism, grounded in Midwestern practicality.



The only problem goes back to the thicket of skyscrapers that formed the balconies’ reason for being: This show-stopping, but hemmed in, tower lacks an effective stage on which to preen. You wish you could set it alongside the Chicago River, where it could show off like its curvaceous, 1960s antecedent, Marina City.
Aqua’s other great virtue is that it is skillfully woven into the fabric of the city, setting it apart from Marina City, whose corncob-shaped high-rises meet the ground awkwardly.

The tower sits on a beautifully sculpted two-story base, which is rectilinear enough to shape the street, but not so rectilinear that it’s a visual bore. Atop the base is an outdoor activity level, one of Chicago’s largest green roofs, that forms a “fifth facade.” When residents of Aqua and occupants of nearby buildings look down on it (above), they see irregularly shaped pathways and swaths of green, not an ugly asphalt roof.

Gang further joined her tower to the city with two boldly sculpted concrete stairs that let pedestrians walk from Columbus Drive (which occupies the highest level of a mutli-level street system) and the ground-level park at Lakeshore East. One is a switchback with corrugated concrete walls; the other, a spectacular helix. These aren’t just stairs. They’re architectural events.

The most dramatic space of the tower’s interior is a clear-span hotel ballroom, which is not sealed off from the outside world, as ballrooms tend to be, but offers pleasant views of the nearby park. Only when you venture upstairs do the functional advantages of the balconies — and some possible disadvantages — become clear.



Aqua’s apartments, which range from convertibles to two-bedrooms and have 8 foot ceilings, are not exactly spacious. Without the balconies, they might have felt claustrophobic. With the balconies, they seem far more expansive.

Some offer striking views, not only of the cityscape but also of the curving, sheltering underside of the balconies above. That impact is even more pronounced in the mostly unoccupied condos, which range from studios to penthouses and have ceilings close to 9 feet high and roughly 13 feet in the penthouses.

Gang speaks of the balconies (left) as an “inhabited facade,” conjuring visions of urban cliff dwellers enjoying a communal outdoor space on the side of a skyscraper. Given that Aqua’s uppermost balconies reach 200 feet higher than those at Marina City, it’s going to be fascinating to see whether people actually use them or shy away because of vertigo.

While the minimal presence of the thin metal pickets is just right when Aqua is seen from street level, some condo dwellers may feel the need for a greater sense of enclosure.
That caveat aside, Aqua can be deemed a smashing success, a building that takes us in dazzling new aesthetic directions yet still manages to respond to both its urban environs and to the environment as a whole.

The tower has enough energy saving features to strive for a LEED silver (Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design) rating from the U.S. Green Building Council. It’s already won an award from the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals because birds will be able to see its curving balconies and therefore will be less likely to fly into the tower.

So credit Gang for an extraordinary debut on the big stage, one that adds to Chicago’s allure as laboratory for skyscraper innovation. And credit Loewenberg for a risk-taking act of enlightened patronage. The risk has paid off. At Aqua, to paraphrase F. Scott Fitzgerald in “The Great Gatsby,” the building boom finally has produced something commensurate with our capacity for wonder.
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