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BigKidD Dec 11, 2007 4:59 AM

San Francisco Of The Past In Black & White
 
Another photograph thread of San Francisco with the majority of the photographs found here, http://content.cdlib.org/view;jsessi...tems&brand=oac
and a few more that can be found here, http://content.cdlib.org/view?docId=...tems&brand=oac
All from the Online Archive of California, Bancroft Library.

http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0050210A.jpg
^Grand Stand in front of the City Hall on the Polk St. side. Sept. 10/23. N.S.G. [Native Sone of the Golden] West Parade
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0049012A.jpg
^St. John's Church. Old church at the cor. 15th and Julian Ave. at the time of the fire of April 18th, 1906.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0050411A.jpg
Opening of the Ball Season at San Francisco 1924. Chief of Police W. J. O'Brien.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0050492A.jpg
Oct. 25/24. Inspection S.F.P. [San Francisco Police] Dept.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0051020A.jpg
Civic Center construction
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0051188A.jpg
Union Square from Stockton St. bet. Post & Geary Sts. in 1880
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0051230A.jpg
Masonic Temple, N.W. cor. Montgomery & Post Sts. in 1879
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0051231A.jpg
North from Geary St. bet. Stockton & Powell Sts. 1905
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0051964A.jpg
West from Market, Fulton & Leavenworth Sts. Jany. 1929.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0052043A.jpg
North on 3rd St. from Howard St. Feb. 1929.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0052281A.jpg
The U.S. Mint, N.W. cor. 5th & Mission St. in 1889
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0052334A.jpg
North on Mission St. from Army St. July 31/31
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0052381A.jpg
On May 23/32, later destroyed. U.S.S. Akron over San Francisco showing bay and ocean. Piggott Photo, S.F.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0052407A.jpg
Jany 1932. California Street, San Francisco. Piggott, S.F.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0052408A.jpg
Jany 1932. Looking down on California Street, San Francisco. Piggott Photo.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0052410A.jpg
Sky line, San Francisco. Standard Oil Bldg. Shell Oil Bldg. Piggott Photo
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0052411A.jpg
Birds Eye View, Nob Hill. San Francisco, Cal. Piggott Photo.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0052413A.jpg
Financial District, San Francisco, Cal. Piggott Photo.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0052438A.jpg
Union Square, 1934. Cathedral Monument, Knight Templar Conclave, July, 7-13-1934. San Francisco, Calif.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0052440A.jpg
N.W. from top of the Examiner Bldg. 3rd & Market Sts. 1928
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0048366A.jpg
German cruiser Nurnberg 1914 in San Francisco Bay. Later destroyed off Cape Horn by the British War vessel.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0048408A.jpg
Portola Parade Oct. 22-25-1912 [1910?].
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0048962A.jpg
Looking North on 3rd St. from Mission St., 1915.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0048998A.jpg
The City Hall from McAllister St. looking West, 1889.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0049001A.jpg
City Hall from Hyde St. in 1889.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0049036A.jpg
Old church S.E. corner Gough and Eddy St., 1914.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0052554A.jpg
Fleet Week, Sept. 1919.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0049149A.jpg
Howard West from 9th St., 1920.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0049213A.jpg
At the opening of the P.P.I. [Panama-Pacific International] Exposition, 1915. State and City officers in the lead of the Parade at the Fillmore Entrance. In the group are the following: Gov. Hiram Johnson, Mayor Jas. Rolph Jr., Supervisor Nelson, W.D. Fennimore, Jesse B. Cook, Judge F.M. Angellotti, Postmaster C.W. Fay, Attorney J.J. Lermen, T.A. Reardon of the Board of Works, Dr. T.B. Leland, Angelo J. Rossi.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0049240A.jpg
The Santa Fe Building, S.W. cor. 2nd and Market St.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0049366A.jpg
S.F. [San Francisco] from Pine and Kearny, North West, about 1889.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0049546A.jpg
L to R: Capt. H. Wright - Chief Wiley, Dept. of Electricity - Capt. H. Gleeson, S.F. [San Francisco] Police Dept. - Commissioner Ehrman, S.F.F. [Fire] Dept. - Ed. Rainey, Sect. To Mayor Rolph and Chief D.J. O'Brien, S.F.P [Police] Dept., Sept. 1st, 1921

Quite a lot of photos continued in a later post; and that's all for now. Thanks for looking.

Downtown Dave Dec 11, 2007 6:01 AM

Wonderful! I love these threads....

BTinSF Dec 11, 2007 7:29 AM

I watched that church at Gough and Eddy burn--a huge loss IMHO. It was beautiful and unusual in that it was gothic but built of redwood, not stone. The fire was believed to have been started by some homeless people they had given shelter.

SF sure had some strange architecture. I saw one building in there that was a combo of gothic and Victorian. Couldn't have even imagined that until now.

But a lot of those photos look very familiar. It's kind of amazing how much remains, having survived the quake and everything.

BigKidD Dec 11, 2007 9:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BTinSF (Post 3220121)
I watched that church at Gough and Eddy burn--a huge loss IMHO. It was beautiful and unusual in that it was gothic but built of redwood, not stone. The fire was believed to have been started by some homeless people they had given shelter.

SF sure had some strange architecture. I saw one building in there that was a combo of gothic and Victorian. Couldn't have even imagined that until now.

But a lot of those photos look very familiar. It's kind of amazing how much remains, having survived the quake and everything.

I checked google maps to see what now sits at Gough & Eddy St. only to discover that there's nothing there. I would of assumed the congregation would have tried to rebuild there former church, but I guess I was wrong. Also, out of all the photos I found, I felt the snowstorm one and the one below to be the most impressive.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0014985A.jpg

soleri Dec 13, 2007 2:24 PM

Breathtaking.

BigKidD Dec 13, 2007 10:20 PM

Market Street Area
 
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013266A.jpg
Market Street below Beale Street. Studebaker Brothers, the Palace Carriage Repository. Ca. 1885.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013267A.jpg
Market Street between Drumm and Davis. Tea store, with teapot on top of post; Hansford Block, with Wellman-Peck (canned goods), Dodge-Sweeney (canned goods), and M.J. Brandenstein (tea and coffee -- now M.J.B.). Ca. 1895.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013268A.jpg
Beale Street between Market and Mission. Dunham, Carrigan and Hayden Company (hardware); Albert Mau and Company. Ca. 1890.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013269A.jpg
South side of Market between First and Second. Standard Soap Company. Ca. 1890.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013270A.jpg
Market and Pine. Eagle Building on extreme right. Ca. 1890.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013271A.jpg
Bird's eye view toward Telegraph Hill. Fremont between Mission and Howard. Joshua Hendy Machine Works left center [now in Sunnyvale]. [Photograph by Taber]
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013273A.jpg
The later Niantic Building. Onseti Company [now Onseti and O'Connor]. 1880s.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013276A.jpg
Bank of California. Photograph. Ca. 1888.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013277A.jpg
Bank of California to the left.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013255A.jpg
Montgomery Street looking south from California. Express Building at extreme left; California Safe Deposit and Trust Company left center; Palace Hotel in far distance. Ca. 1880.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013256A.jpg
California Street looking east. California Safe Deposit and Trust Company on right; Express Building on left; Parrott Building extreme left (stone imported from China), which became the Emporium after the fire. 1875.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013257A.jpg
California and Battery, north corner. Bank of California in distance. 1875.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013262A.jpg
Montgomery Street north from Market. Grand Army of the Republic convention, 1886.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013263A.jpg
Looking up Post Street at conjunction of Montgomery, Market, and Post. Chronicle Building at left; Crocker Building; Masonic Temple. Ca. 1900 or 1902. [Photograph by Waters and Co.]
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013264A.jpg
Bush Street looking west from Sansome. California Neck Tie Factory; Brooklyn Hotel; hacks and hotel stagecoach (called "bus"). Ca. 1875. [Photograph by Turrill & Miller]
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013242A.jpg
California and Sansome. Plank street. W.T. Coleman & Company. Ca. 1865.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013245A.jpg
Merchants Exchange. 1880s.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013247A.jpg
Express Building. Telegraph pole. Ca. 1863.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013250A.jpg
Snowstorm of 1882. Market and Post. Palace Hotel on left.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013251A.jpg
Business blocks of San Francisco. Montgomery Street from the corner of Pine, looking north. 1888. [Reproduced from ? July 7th, 1888.]
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013229A.jpg
California Theater. Bush Street between Kearny and Dupont. Engine 11 on right. [California Theater was replaced by the California Hotel later, which had brick chimneys on the east wall next to the firehouse. The morning of the earthquake, the chimneys fell through the firehouse to the basement, causing the death of the fire chief, Dennis Sullivan, and {the injury of} his wife. Throughout the fire, the various fire companies were on their own.] Ca. 1870. (The California Theater cost $125,000 to build.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013233A.jpg
View of San Francisco. Ca. 1860. Goat Island.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013235A.jpg
Russ House. Montgomery between Bush and Pine. [Now Russ Building.]
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013236A.jpg
Vienna Garden at Stockton and Sutter. Temple Emanuel. (Vienna Garden was formerly the Tivoli Gardens.)
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013217A.jpg
Geary Street looking west from Dupont. Unitarian Church on extreme left; Calvary Presbyterian Church (gothic windows) in distance [now site of St. Francis Hotel]; Trinity Episcopal Church on right. Ca. 1880.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013076A.jpg
The White House. J.W. Davidson & Company. Decorated for a celebration. Ca. 1886.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013091A.jpg
Union Square, looking northwest. Trinity Church to the left; Temple Emanuel center; Huntington and Stanford homes in the background. 1880.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013093A.jpg
Kearny and Geary Streets. Lotta's Fountain. 1885. [Photograph by Taber]
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013151A.jpg
Looking southeast from California and Jones. Temple Emanuel in center; Palace Hotel in far distance. Ca. 1880.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013191A.jpg
Society of California Pioneers building. Fourth and Pioneer Place. June 2, 1888.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0014888A.jpg
Spreckels Building. Third and Market. [Call Building.] Ca. 1904.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0014915A.jpg
Market and Taylor Sts. Weinstock-Lubin. Ca. 1905.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0014920A.jpg
Hall of Justice. East side of Portsmouth Square. March 13, 1906. [Photograph by Turrill & Miller]
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0014922A.jpg
St. Patrick's Church. Mission St. looking east from Fourth.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0014985A.jpg
Looking down Kearny Street from Telegraph Hill. Hall of Justice on left; Call Building distant right. 1906.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0015037A.jpg
DeYoung Museum. Called the Palace of Fine Arts in 1894. The green wall near the present DeYoung Museum is all that remains of the original.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013072A.jpg
GAR Arch on Market Street, looking east from Grand Avenue. Parade in progress. July 4, 1886.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0012450A.jpg
Sharpshooters of the Vigilante Committee. May 15, 1856.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0048991A.jpg
Looking East on Geary St. from Stockton. See the Chronicle and Palace at end of street, 1895.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0051473A.jpg
South on Fillmore St. from Fulton St. Feb. 1928.
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0051798A.jpg
Diamond Jubilee, San Francisco

peanut gallery Dec 18, 2007 8:34 AM

Great find! I hope you don't mind me adding to your thread, BigKidD, but I went around to some of these sites today to do a little then-and-now comparison. I didn't have copies of the originals with me, so I had to shoot these from memory. You kind of get the idea though.

Southwest corner of Market and Second
1918:
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0049240A.jpg

2007:
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/152/img9914nu6.jpg

Market below Beale
1885:
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013266A.jpg

2007:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2056/...b3c8ac36_b.jpg

Market between Drumm and Davis
1895:
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013267A.jpg

2007:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2413/...d6200967_b.jpg

Beale between Market and Mission
1890:
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013268A.jpg

2007 (I'm not sure which side of the street is shown in the original, so here are both sides today):
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2185/...ab623dfa_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2051/...852773d5_b.jpg
Note: the old PG&E building (on the left) wasn't completed until 1924, so it not being in the original isn't much help.

Market between First and Second
1890:
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013269A.jpg

2007:
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/3802/img9913bp6.jpg

Market and Pine
1890:
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013270A.jpg

2007:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2101/...1d015d47_b.jpg

North on Montgomery from Market
1886:
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013262A.jpg

2007:
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6100/img9912ka8.jpg

Post/Montgomery and Market
1900 or 1902:
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0013263A.jpg

2007:
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/61/img9911vw6.jpg

BigKidD Dec 19, 2007 9:06 PM

Good job with the then and now photos peanut gallery. Also, I wish Market and Post St. retained its older buildings. It was quite a crossing of streets,
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1177/...e23eb757_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/11986285@N06/1321289651/
Furthermore, I find it interesting that the building at Market and Pine is very reminiscent of the building that preceded it.

BTinSF Dec 19, 2007 9:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigKidD (Post 3221401)
I checked google maps to see what now sits at Gough & Eddy St. only to discover that there's nothing there. I would of assumed the congregation would have tried to rebuild there former church, but I guess I was wrong.

They are a very committed bunch (of Lutherans). They are going to rebuild but not anything as grand as the old church and the new structure will, I believe, have substantial space for homeless services which I find very "Christian" considering how their original church burned.

BigKidD Dec 20, 2007 1:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BTinSF (Post 3236491)
They are a very committed bunch (of Lutherans). They are going to rebuild but not anything as grand as the old church and the new structure will, I believe, have substantial space for homeless services which I find very "Christian" considering how their original church burned.

That would be nice, but I read that the another church would not be built. Their thought of being a church without walls sounds very Christian to me, but I'm slightly saddened that another church will not be constructed. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...&sn=002&sc=840

peanut gallery Dec 21, 2007 9:07 PM

Thanks BigKidD. In most of those cases, I wish they could have retained more of the old stuff.

LuckyJ26 Dec 22, 2007 9:33 AM

Amazing pictures! Looks very European with a mix of the Wild Wild West.

the Misanthropist Dec 30, 2007 5:08 PM

As much as I love downtown SF as it is now I wish some of those neo-Gothic and Italianate buildings had survived.

It's also interesting how the mainstream ethos of the city has changed. That looked very much like a city at work, and one full of churches, patriotic parades and vigilante committees, while it now projects itself as a hedonistic city and a militantly secular, politically radical one. I guess that could be said of any city to a certain extent, but it's particularly noticeable in San Francisco's case.

ady26 Dec 30, 2007 5:59 PM

What a century full of changes for SF!

Surrealplaces Jan 30, 2008 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigKidD (Post 3219863)


Masonic Temple, N.W. cor. Montgomery & Post Sts. in 1879
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0051231A.jpg
.

Nice picture. It looks like the palm trees are just planted then. Are they still there today, but much taller?

Ducov Feb 27, 2008 11:27 PM

Fascinating insight into SF's past, both pre earthquake and after it.

The preponderance of all the Italianate and Gothic architecture in the photos is certainly very striking, even if there's not that much extant.

BTinSF Feb 28, 2008 12:03 AM

^^^There's a lot more remaining than people realize. Some of it has been covered up by ugly modern facades (the 60's were a period in which a lot of that was done) and a few of those are now being stripped off such as at the DeYoung Building, now reborn as the Ritz Carlton Residences.

Here is a photo (taken by me) of the DeYoung showing 2 sections of the brick facade that have been restored with a section of the unrestored brick between them after the ugly 60's cladding has been stripped off:

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...g?t=1204157291

And this photo (also by me) shows some of the buildings wonderful brick detail:

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...g?t=1204157475

I think there are a lot more such gems under 60s sheet metal around town besides the ones just hidden by larger modern structures.

Ducov Feb 28, 2008 1:17 AM

That's interesting to know, I wonder how much is still hidden.

I haven't actually been yet so am just gaugeing on pictures and what I've heard.

ozone Apr 9, 2008 1:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Misanthropist (Post 3251736)
As much as I love downtown SF as it is now I wish some of those neo-Gothic and Italianate buildings had survived.

It's also interesting how the mainstream ethos of the city has changed. That looked very much like a city at work, and one full of churches, patriotic parades and vigilante committees, while it now projects itself as a hedonistic city and a militantly secular, politically radical one. I guess that could be said of any city to a certain extent, but it's particularly noticeable in San Francisco's case.

What rubbish. It's still a city at work (just not the dirty and industrial type) and America's San Francisco has always been hedonistic, much more secular than sacred -from the Gold Rush days when the City was mostly filled with a ton of greedy & adventurous upper-middle class, lonely and horny young men visiting the 'cribs' to "society ladies" visiting the opium dens to the Berkeley bohemians, the North Beach beats, Haight hippies, Castro gays....and the beat goes on....more patriotic and racist than later -yep..but when compared to the rest of the country...well it's never been Peoria Misanthropist.


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