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Peggerino Oct 1, 2020 2:38 AM

The dogs seem to like it

Gravity Wins Oct 1, 2020 3:15 AM

This project is awesome... can't wait!!! Great mix of old and new

buzzg Oct 1, 2020 2:35 PM

Definitely like the updates to the cladding, makes it look a bit more visually interesting. I really hope those ramps aren't using the same ugly mesh as the Pump House though. And that patio.. trellice? .. is weird. I'd rather just see the sky and not cut my head open if I lived there.

Anyone know if phase 2 of this project on Galt is still happening?

Biff Oct 1, 2020 2:47 PM

Galt is a year or so away.

buzzg Oct 1, 2020 2:58 PM

Great to hear.

bomberjet Oct 1, 2020 3:22 PM

This one looks to be interesting.

Galt is the Duncan site?

Kris22 Oct 1, 2020 7:25 PM

Can't say I'm a fan of this crappy siding and I actually think the original renderings looked cleaner. Pretty much everything on this developer's instagram page is nicer than this building. But that's just aesthetics; obviously I'm happy to see a project like this go ahead.

hello Oct 1, 2020 9:37 PM

Cladding definitely looks better then the initial renders. Good concept for this location. Hopefully RNDSQR does well with this.

Labroco Oct 3, 2020 5:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bomberjet (Post 9060296)
This one looks to be interesting.

Galt is the Duncan site?


Yes..

buzzg Oct 3, 2020 2:52 PM

Yeah it would certainly be nice to see an architect other than 546 do something in the Exchange soon..

trueviking Oct 9, 2020 5:05 AM

I saw a mock up of the siding for this project in the 546 office. It looks very cool.

Labroco Oct 9, 2020 5:43 AM

Pacific /Alexander
 
Has a demolition permit been issued yet?

I strongly believe all development North of Galt is now frozen / sterilized until the vagrant encampment is removed and the parcel is sold to the adjacent property owner. They wish very much to purchase it and are really the only buyers. Why no one will help to facilitate this is beyond me .

The immediate area has not been this bad in the 30 years I have been involved in the area.

buzzg Oct 9, 2020 2:09 PM

Yes, demo was supposed to start this week but they had a delay. Should start in next couple weeks.

optimusREIM Oct 9, 2020 2:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buzzg (Post 9068497)
Yes, demo was supposed to start this week but they had a delay. Should start in next couple weeks.

Classic Winnipeg. Has a single project ever been on time here?

BAKGUY Oct 9, 2020 4:05 PM

Never On Time
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by optimusREIM (Post 9068559)
Classic Winnipeg. Has a single project ever been on time here?

Seems that Never a preemie born here..
Almost always need a "C Section" here around these parts. lol

plrh Oct 9, 2020 4:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by optimusREIM (Post 9068559)
Classic Winnipeg. Has a single project ever been on time here?

Waverley Underpass. That is all.

esquire Oct 9, 2020 4:07 PM

The Hampton Inn, now Humphry Inn, went up pretty fast back in 2001 if I remember correctly?!

pspeid Oct 9, 2020 4:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by optimusREIM (Post 9068559)
Classic Winnipeg. Has a single project ever been on time here?

According to the "interweb", most construction projects on the planet do not get completed on-time:

https://www.planradar.com/managing-c...tion-projects/

plrh Oct 9, 2020 6:01 PM

Insider secret: it is normal for contractors to build penalties into their prices to allow a little schedule freedom. When a job is tendered with severe financial penalties, they get passed on to the customer. So if the city were to say "$5000/day in liquidated damages," the estimator would guess how far over they would be (let's say 60 days) and add $300,000 to the bid. If it's a $10,000,000 job, odds are the winner wouldn't be any different with or without the damages built in.

rrskylar Oct 11, 2020 8:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esquire (Post 9059895)
Getting some Nordic vibes from those drawings... looks interesting.

Nordic? Looks to me like the only thing missing are the bars on the windows!

oftheMoon Oct 28, 2020 2:06 AM

Fences for demolition are now up around the green cinder block factory part of the building.

DonaldSmith Nov 2, 2020 6:42 PM

Demo is well underway.

buzzg Nov 4, 2020 3:07 AM

That sure is a big slab

https://i.imgur.com/w1F8NNMl.jpg

I really hope they pay some homage to GWM and give this development a cool name. Metal House or something. With all that metal siding it'd work.

Labroco Nov 5, 2020 11:18 PM

This will be a great project... Lets find a solution for Alexander Docks now.

Wigglez Nov 6, 2020 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Labroco (Post 9097548)
This will be a great project... Lets find a solution for Alexander Docks now.

Whatever happened to this https://www.canadianarchitect.com/on...gs-waterfront/? Another pretend fantasy competition?

buzzg Nov 6, 2020 3:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wigglez (Post 9097590)
Whatever happened to this https://www.canadianarchitect.com/on...gs-waterfront/? Another pretend fantasy competition?

Waiting for Portage Place sale to go through. When it's done, TFNP will divest itself of NP and add waterfront redevelopment into The Forks' mandate.

Labroco Nov 6, 2020 4:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buzzg (Post 9097767)
Waiting for Portage Place sale to go through. When it's done, TFNP will divest itself of NP and add waterfront redevelopment into The Forks' mandate.

The Forks will do a great job! They have an excellent team. I wish they could find a way to start planning and working towards the River City vision created by Scatliff + Miller + Murray now.

1ajs Nov 6, 2020 6:00 AM

the forks a truely interesting succes story txs to a parking garage under a building it didnt own

pspeid Nov 6, 2020 2:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Labroco (Post 9097780)
The Forks will do a great job! They have an excellent team. I wish they could find a way to start planning and working towards the River City vision created by Scatliff + Miller + Murray now.

I'm sure they have been as frustrated at the pace of re-development as many of us have. I agree they have done a good job taking on the enormous task of transforming the city's downtown, bit by bit. Being older than dirt myself, I remember the city prior to The Forks, Waterfront Drive, the arena, etc. Things HAVE improved, and despite the slowness of change, look like they will continue to improve.

buzzg Nov 6, 2020 6:43 PM

^Definitely. They are powerless until the city finally turn the land over. I really have no idea what they could be waiting for.

WinCitySparky Nov 6, 2020 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pspeid (Post 9098044)
I'm sure they have been as frustrated at the pace of re-development as many of us have. I agree they have done a good job taking on the enormous task of transforming the city's downtown, bit by bit. Being older than dirt myself, I remember the city prior to The Forks, Waterfront Drive, the arena, etc. Things HAVE improved, and despite the slowness of change, look like they will continue to improve.

Sometimes slow change turns out better than fast change.

Alexander 90 Nov 7, 2020 11:17 PM

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Centre Village - 575 Balmoral Street
Born: 2010 Died: 2020 - 10 Years old.
Fail: Infill Urban Design.
Architects won numerous awards for their award winning design.
Same architects for 90 Alexander.
I wonder if Alexander will suffer the same fate.
$300 per square foot, 212 apartments, 24 parking spaces. $60,000,000.00

WinCitySparky Nov 8, 2020 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexander 90 (Post 9099564)
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Centre Village - 575 Balmoral Street
Born: 2010 Died: 2020 - 10 Years old.
Fail: Infill Urban Design.
Architects won numerous awards for their award winning design.
Same architects for 90 Alexander.
I wonder if Alexander will suffer the same fate.
$300 per square foot, 212 apartments, 24 parking spaces. $60,000,000.00

Probably not because of where it is vs the strip this thing was built on.

Wpg_Guy Nov 9, 2020 6:02 AM

https://i.imgur.com/yhT36df.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/956mZgY.jpg?1

Biff Nov 9, 2020 2:57 PM

That is a thick looking piece of concrete.

michelleb Nov 10, 2020 1:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexander 90 (Post 9099564)
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Centre Village - 575 Balmoral Street
Born: 2010 Died: 2020 - 10 Years old.
Fail: Infill Urban Design.
Architects won numerous awards for their award winning design.
Same architects for 90 Alexander.
I wonder if Alexander will suffer the same fate.
$300 per square foot, 212 apartments, 24 parking spaces. $60,000,000.00

I thought that was low rent or Manitoba Housing built in the 1960s!

Spocket Nov 10, 2020 6:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexander 90 (Post 9099564)
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Centre Village - 575 Balmoral Street
Born: 2010 Died: 2020 - 10 Years old.
Fail: Infill Urban Design.
Architects won numerous awards for their award winning design.
Same architects for 90 Alexander.
I wonder if Alexander will suffer the same fate.
$300 per square foot, 212 apartments, 24 parking spaces. $60,000,000.00

From what I've read, the reports of this thing's life were greatly exaggerated.

It was never a co-op. It was conceived that way but they knew before construction got underway that that wouldn't fly. They also had problems that weren't necessarily related to the residents but more to do with the beer vendor nearby and the upper crust types who frequented it. They do admit that the design played a part in its downfall but was a failure due more to how it worked within the neighborhood. In other words, it probably would have worked out a lot better pretty much anywhere else.

buzzg Nov 10, 2020 4:07 PM

K I'm confused are they tearing Centre Village down?

bomberjet Nov 10, 2020 5:01 PM

It looks terrible. My neihgbours 1950's bungalow with zero maintenance looks better at this point.

Alexander 90 Nov 20, 2020 11:00 PM

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To make the existing building look decent on the outside it will cost a ton of money.

212 apartments and 24 parking spaces and no balconies they will have a tough time renting. And with all the homeless camps and increase in crime. I wonder if they know. And 12,000 vacant apartments in Winnipeg with a few thousand under construction. Rents are going down and landlords offering 1 month free rent and a $1000.00 gift card. Calgary is a different rental market than Winnipeg.

Kris22 Nov 20, 2020 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexander 90 (Post 9112664)

To make the existing building look decent on the outside it will cost a ton of money.

212 apartments and 24 parking spaces and no balconies they will have a tough time renting. And with all the homeless camps and increase in crime. I wonder if they know. And 12,000 vacant apartments in Winnipeg with a few thousand under construction. Rents are going down and landlords offering 1 month free rent and a $1000.00 gift card. Calgary is a different rental market than Winnipeg.


The pump house a block away rented out quickly and I don't think it has any parking at all. And no balconies either. No parking and no balconies is quite common in this neighbourhood. Often the builders will try to do a shared rooftop patio to make up for the lack of balconies, but the parking issue goes with the territory of a heritage district.

One month free rent is an old and common incentive to get renters--it's not a sign of our rental market collapsing.

ywgwalk Nov 20, 2020 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris22 (Post 9112691)
The pump house a block away rented out quickly and I don't think it has any parking at all. And no balconies either. No parking and no balconies is quite common in this neighbourhood. Often the builders will try to do a shared rooftop patio to make up for the lack of balconies, but the parking issue goes with the territory of a heritage district.

One month free rent is an old and common incentive to get renters--it's not a sign of our rental market collapsing.

While I agree with everything mentioned I'll just point out that the upper units of pump house each have their own private rooftop terrace with individual hot tubs.

bomberjet Nov 21, 2020 12:46 AM

Based on the cmhc rental data for 2019, the winnipeg rental market has less availability than anywhere in alberta.

Theres supposed to be a couple different parkades coming in the area too.

Labroco Nov 21, 2020 9:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bomberjet (Post 9112783)
Based on the cmhc rental data for 2019, the winnipeg rental market has less availability than anywhere in alberta.

Theres supposed to be a couple different parkades coming in the area too.

Where would they be planning parkades in the area?

NewIreland Nov 21, 2020 9:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Labroco (Post 9113006)
Where would they be planning parkades in the area?

One between Rupert and Pacific next to the museum and one on Market beside the RMT.

Here's the plan for Market. Taken from the CT's Master Plan.

https://i.ibb.co/7t7mYNG/Screenshot-...721-Chrome.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/chBL9P2/Screenshot-...837-Chrome.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/SJsxHKb/Screenshot-...913-Chrome.jpg

Labroco Nov 21, 2020 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewIreland (Post 9113012)
One between Rupert and Pacific next to the museum and one on Market beside the RMT.

Here's the plan for Market. Taken from the CT's Master Plan.

https://i.ibb.co/7t7mYNG/Screenshot-...721-Chrome.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/chBL9P2/Screenshot-...837-Chrome.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/SJsxHKb/Screenshot-...913-Chrome.jpg

í ľí´” I do not believe a stand-alone parkade is planned for Pacific / Rupert. My understanding is a future expansion of the museum / concert hall complex would include parking under the structure. There is nothing on the drawing board per se or funding in place so it seems in the future. As for the Market Ave. parkade it would be useful but again no funding I am aware of.

Labroco Nov 22, 2020 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewIreland (Post 9113012)
One between Rupert and Pacific next to the museum and one on Market beside the RMT.

Here's the plan for Market. Taken from the CT's Master Plan.

https://i.ibb.co/7t7mYNG/Screenshot-...721-Chrome.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/chBL9P2/Screenshot-...837-Chrome.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/SJsxHKb/Screenshot-...913-Chrome.jpg

🤔 I do not believe a stand-alone parkade is planned for Pacific / Rupert. My understanding is a future expansion of the museum / concert hall complex would include parking under the structure. There is nothing on the drawing board per se or funding in place so it seems in the future. As for the Market Ave. parade it would be useful but again no funding I am aware of...

NewIreland Nov 22, 2020 2:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Labroco (Post 9113450)
í ľí´” I do not believe a stand-alone parkade is planned for Pacific / Rupert. My understanding is a future expansion of the museum / concert hall complex would include parking under the structure. There is nothing on the drawing board per se or funding in place so it seems in the future. As for the Market Ave. parade it would be useful but again no funding I am aware of...


"Mixed use commercial with parkade" #2

https://i.ibb.co/52KyTbF/Screenshot-...541-Chrome.jpg

NewIreland Nov 22, 2020 2:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Labroco (Post 9113432)
🤔 I do not believe a stand-alone parkade is planned for Pacific / Rupert. My understanding is a future expansion of the museum / concert hall complex would include parking under the structure. There is nothing on the drawing board per se or funding in place so it seems in the future. As for the Market Ave. parade it would be useful but again no funding I am aware of...


Speaking of parking, Fortis receiver has turned down $8,500,000 and may be in discussions to accept $9,000,000+. Sorry everyone but it’s being bought as a parking lot and not a development site... that’s over $55,000 a stall!

Waiting to see CV’s “soon to be announced” sale / development plans for the St Regis... Let me guess!

Sorry, what is being bought as a parking lot?

Labroco Nov 22, 2020 4:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewIreland (Post 9113505)
"Mixed use commercial with parkade" #2

https://i.ibb.co/52KyTbF/Screenshot-...541-Chrome.jpg

Perhaps one day... but not in the foreseeable future I’m sorry to say.


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