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No need to be such an apologist. Great shots.
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:haha: your thread title's hilarious.
way cool pictures. not the prettiest place, but man do you pictures make up for it. :tup: |
Gotta be honest. Nice pictures, and the city looks horrible! I was about to compliment Lubbock on having at least one decent looking tall building, but later it appears to be deserted. Every other tall building is hideous. And the kiss of death is when a law firm takes a quarter block of prime retail space, a personal injury firm no less. On the bright side, a couple of the occupied buildings looked nice, and there were several trees and what looked to be a nice park.
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Ah, Lubbock. It takes a special kind of person to live in Lubbock. The Texas Tech campus is rather nice and improving tremendously, but Lubbock is still prone to the smell of cattle (depending on which way the wind is blowing) and/or dust storms. As Mike Leach would say though, where else can you see it rain mud?
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Yikes. Thanks for the photo thread of a rarely seen city. I now know though why it is so rarely seen by outsider eyes. lol
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Jeeper -- Very nice job. Photos are great... really took some creativity.
In fairness to Lubbock though, I don't think it ever recovered (at least downtown) from the major tornado that hit it in May 1970. I grew up in Clovis, New Mexico which is 100 miles west of Lubbock. Time and perspective changes a lot of things... I remember how going to Lubbock felt like going to the big city -- I have since lived in many places, including NYC, the SF bay area and Philly. Call me crazy, but somehow Lubbock doesn't seem like the big city anymore. Also, Jeeper, I saw some photos of Amarillo (i think by you), love to see more. Also, if you are ever passing through Clovis please take a few pics... it's been 13 years since I was last there. For those not familiar with Clovis, it was once infamously described in Texas Monthly thusly : "Clovis looks and smells like the bad side of Lubbock". Now from seeing these photos of Lubbock, you can only imagine what wonder awaits your eyes when you first see Clovis New Mexico -- "The Cattle Capital of the Southwest". For anyone to understand Lubbock, I think they have to understand what happened to the city in May 1970. If you compare the new vs. old photos, you will notice there has been virtually no high rise construction in the last 37 years. The following photos and info is from this website (I hope I am not violating any SSP posting rules here): http://www.lubbockonline.com/lubbock...do/index.shtml May 12, 1970: Tornado Leaves Death, Rubble A massive tornado ripped through the heart of downtown Lubbock late Monday night - leaving death, destruction in the millions, and a city badly crippled. Unofficial estimates placed the dead at 2 a.m. today as high as 20, with more than 200 hurt, at least 14 of those were hospitalized. I believe these first 4 photos were taken by the Lubbock Avalanche Journal (local newspaper). http://www.lubbockonline.com/tornado.../images/14.jpg http://www.lubbockonline.com/tornado...y/images/1.jpg http://www.lubbockonline.com/tornado...y/images/2.jpg http://www.lubbockonline.com/tornado.../images/31.jpg These last two are attributed to "spotted" http://spotted.lubbockonline.com/ima...ry/1543223.jpg http://spotted.lubbockonline.com/ima...om/1543009.jpg |
Wow I would rather live in a Favela in Rio, atleast you get a nice ocean view! Nah just kiddin, well good ole Lubber must have a serious methamphetamine problem. I pity the people that have to live in such a drab place.
Could always be worse though, I shudder whenever I drive through Gila Bend Arizona, yikes a desert town just dwindling away.:slob: |
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Great photos, but wow that's an ugly town.
Why no shots of Texas Tech? I mean that campus has to be at least decent, right? |
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For a metro area with about a quarter-million people, Lubbock does feel much smaller than it really is. Waco's only a little smaller, but it feels so much bigger to me.
Lubbock is also kinda dry which seems very strange for a city that size with such a large state university. You have to go outside the city limits to find a liquor store. Ironic because Tech students are some of the heaviest drinkers I know. |
You are excused, since the photos were great! ;)
And thanks to MobyLL for posting those old fascinating pics. |
Ewww. Awesomely funny intro though. Nice job with the lipstick too.
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Cool. Thanks for the photo tour. I haven't been there since 1999 and yeah, there's not a whole lot to see. Granted I was there early in the morning 2 days after Christmas, but the place was very sleepy. Lubbock does have a few claims to fame, it is the hometown of Buddy Holly. I have a cousin who lives outside of Lubbock in Levelland, yes "levelland". As the name suggests, the place is incredibly flat. I saw my first tumbleweed there also. ;) My great-grandfather moved to Lubbock in 1937 from Tennessee. He had a rare skin condition and Lubbock was one of the only places that could treat it. My grandmother later moved north of Austin and then later to Austin. She's always prefered living in bigger cities, she also lived in Dallas for a while. Anyway, I believe my great-grandfather is buried there. Not sure about that, I'll have to ask my mom.
Thanks again for the tour. Lipstick on a pig. :jester: |
Great pics. :tup:
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I checked out some of the comments before I saw the photos and expected to see a dump. I see a gritty city with lots of potential, not as bad as some of you make it out to be. Some of those newer buildings are pretty blah, though. Maybe a few pedestrians would make the place look a little less desolate.
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It is what is it...a small city. I like the fact they have the brick streets!
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Haha! Funny forward you wrote... I can see there is not too much excitement to be found. But it is interesting to see none the less. Nice work.
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Just damn :yuck: :haha:
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I'm going back to Lubbock tomorrow, and I planned on getting some Tech photos then. I didn't want to put the nice looking Texas Tech photos in the same thread with the downtown photos. That would be like eating rotten meat before having cheesecake, the bad taste would still overwhelm the good.
:) Thanks for the compliments. Many people tend to compare Lubbock and Amarillo because they are so close in distance (120 miles) and size (about 200k metro). They are however quite different. Downtown Lubbock has long since seen its heyday, and there have been no serious attempts to revive it since then. Some of that can be attributed to the tornado, but not all of it. The simple fact is that Lubbock is more economically anchored around it's true cash cow, Texas Tech University, than it is around its commercial center, so downtown takes a back seat. Aesthetically, the city doesn't seem to care as much about its image as most other cities, in my opinion anyway. With the exception of the Texas Tech campus, the newer developments in the southwest, and the many playa lakes around the city, there is very little green to be found. The city is laden with enough asphalt parking lots to provide parking for a population 3 times its size.The roads are atrocious. There are nasty dips everywhere, and in most cases you cannot even see the lane striping. There have been many times where I'm not sure if I'm on a 2 or 3 lane avenue. |
heh, great pics, especially the toilets. no pics of the murals though? i liked the murals, even if they all had to do with cows or buddy holly. i was there about a year and a half ago for a law school competition.
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Thanks for the virtual tour of Lubbock. You really managed to capture the desolation in your carefully composed pics. The bathroom pics are badass.
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No wonder the Texas Tech students drink so much lol! Ain't shit else to do in good ole Lubbock. I'm sure Bobby Knight was like WTF when he first flew in for an interview
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look so.....empty.
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Haven't been to Lubbock since the 80's. Where were these pics taken?
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Those old tornado pics are scary. But then again, so are the pics of Lubbock today. :shrug: ;)
Like a couple of others, I'm voting for the brick streets.:D |
that NTS building is excellent. Reminds me of America's 1st Modernist skyscraper- the PSFS building in Philly.
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Very nice shots. I esp. liked the very first one.
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Interesting how you can see the repairs from the tornado damage on the NTS Building some 30 years later:
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lubbock is so.......Boring :slob: but your pics actualy make it look descent. my millionare grandparents Retiered to that city.they lived in cal!
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About to head back to Lubbock this morning. I'll try to snap a set from Texas Tech. With the new high rise dorms and parking structures they've built, TTU's campus looks like a nicer downtown area than downtown itself. :)
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Doesn't look as bad to me. Inspite of some crappy parts I don't think there's any need to aplogize for posting them.
Otherwise why even waste time doing that? |
the tallest looks like it was influenced by PSFS in philly
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Some nice limestone, some nice brick. Those steets are tres' cool. But ya, ewwww. :yuck:
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Were you hoping to drag Lubbock through the dirt? Sure seems that way. I look forward to your VIEW of Tech.
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Thanks for the tour, I can't say that I'm in love with Lubbock after it, but I can say that I know a lot more about the place than I did 15 minutes ago.
You peaked my curiosity so I went to live.local to get a birds eye view of the place. Now I have a few questions: What is going on in this vast empty swath between Texas Tech and downtown?: http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...d/lubbock1.jpg When I zoomed in even closer, it switched to an older image and a whole neighborhood popped up: http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...d/lubbock4.jpg Has this whole area been abandoned in the time between when the two sattelite images were taken? I switched over to a bird's eye view, and everything was empty again: http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...d/lubbock2.jpg Other than what is obviously going to be a Wal-Mart, I have no idea what is going on here: http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...d/lubbock3.jpg I hope for Lubbock's sake that it is all some massive re-development and that so much of the city hasn't simply been abandoned. |
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When did Texas pass the law banning pedestrians? I just got back from Dallas and saw 3 pedestrians in a week. I see Lubbock suffers from the same. I can't believe people who live there think that's good. Street life makes a city interesting, not a highway system.
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Why not post some pics of the really nice areas near the Tech campus? Like many others, I'm not in love with Lubbock but I was very impressed by the neighborhoods of beautiful homes and trees in some parts of town. Unfortunately I didn't take any photos. Wouldn't it be more fair to show a more balanced view of the city?
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first off, really nice pictures.
second, it's a slightly unfair depiction of the city. Lubbock is the Texas equivalent of...say, Newark, NJ, or Bakersfield, CA. Not in relation to the built environment, but in the fact that everyone in other parts of the region seem to dump on it constantly. In Texas, Lubbock is the butt of all sorts of jokes...for the flatness (like that matters in a city) or for the smell (very rare for it to smell like cowshit, although it does happen) or for the wind (actually not much windier than Dallas) or because it's isolated. Whatever the reason, even places like Midland and Amarillo like to have a joke at Lubbock's expense. The truth is, it's not THAT bad. Lubbock is actually a very important city in it's large but sparsely populated part of Texas. It serves as the hub for the best cotton-producing region in the world and there's moderate oil deposits not far away. Those two resources have lent a considerable amount of wealth to Lubbock, and there's a surprising large number of very wealthy areas. Now, keep in mind, it's not at all an urban place. The city didn't even come into being till the '20's, so it missed out on the golden age of the streetcar and dense downtown shopping districts. It grew slowly and steadily in a suburban manner, but never developed much of a downtown core. After the tornado, the downtown was more or less left for dead, and the retail growth of the city took place on auto-centric strips further and further away from downtown. Lubbock is actually kind of an interesting place if you're curious about suburbia - because it's so flat with absolutely no geographic boundaries for sprawl, you get a taste of the development of suburban aesthetic the further you travel south of downtown. 19th Street - a mile south of downtown - is mostly 30's buildings that come up to the sidewalk but leave room for parking to the sides. 34th Street - two miles from downtown - is all retro 50's; early strip malls that are now dying, drive in burger places with space-age lines, etc. 50th Street - three miles from downtown - you begin to see the early indoor shopping malls with large parking lots. 82nd street - five miles from downtown, you get your big boxes. 98th Street - exburbia. Tacky faux historicism in auto-dominated parking areas. It's interesting, but in a subtle way. Greenwich Village it is not, but it is a microcosm of suburban development as its progressed throughout the past 80 years. Anyone who's interested in cities should have an interest in how and why they've developed the way they have, and Lubbock, with its massive sprawl and linear growth, showcases that history better than almost anywhere. It's a town of probably 150 square miles, all the pictures from this thread were within half a square mile. There's districts with beautiful well preserved homes from the 20's and thirties along tree-lined streets. There's districts with McMansions like you'd see in Plano or The Woodlands. There's poor, gritty neighborhoods with hole-in-the-wall local restaurants. The Texas Tech campus is actually very attractive. Just remember, there's far, far more to the town than what's shown here. Anyways, that's my defense of the place. I graduated from college at Tech, and I'll always have a soft spot for it. Not the greatest place in the world, but it is honest and for the most part unpretentious. Sometimes I even miss it. |
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