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Old Posted Sep 26, 2019, 2:38 PM
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The holocores really seem to be the bottleneck of this development. They could be done this latest floor by now but it seems like they just can't get them ready quick enough. Hopefully they're able to ramp up sooner rather then later.
The original supplier went out of business and is only supplying up to the 14th floor. I don't know if this is a factor for installation speed.
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Who is the mysterious hollow core supplier that went bankrupt? I'm not 100% up to speed on who's capable of this in Winnipeg. But Lafarge and/or Inland are the only companies that come to mind. City Mix maybe?

Armtec? They went belly up.
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Why is the northeastern corner of the floorplate notched?
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Who is the mysterious hollow core supplier that went bankrupt? I'm not 100% up to speed on who's capable of this in Winnipeg. But Lafarge and/or Inland are the only companies that come to mind. City Mix maybe?

Armtec? They went belly up.
Buy your own precast production facility:

https://www.winnipegcommercialrealto...July_2019_.pdf
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Old Posted Sep 26, 2019, 4:51 PM
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Why is the northeastern corner of the floorplate notched?
Based on the renders, it looks like that's the design of the building.

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That would be the common hallway corridor leading to/from the elevators. I presume there will be a loop around the core. Bit of an odd detail.
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Buy your own precast production facility:

https://www.winnipegcommercialrealto...July_2019_.pdf
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Interesting. So they're keeping the pipe division going but shutdown the precast.
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Old Posted Sep 26, 2019, 5:53 PM
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Interesting. So they're keeping the pipe division going but shutdown the precast.
The pipe plant next door is Inland. The culvert division of armtec was bought by Canada Culvert and they only make corrugated metal pipe.
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Who owned the precast before then? I thought it was inland who owned it. Was it Armtec?
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That would be the common hallway corridor leading to/from the elevators. I presume there will be a loop around the core. Bit of an odd detail.
Yeah, that's what it looks like. It didn't really jump out at me on the rendering but of course I can really see it now with the floors coming in.
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^Should give a nice view of P&M from that triangle.
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They have been working for more than 3 weeks now laying down MANY layers of insulation over top of the driveway. Many workers tolling away on it. Seems like a HUGE expense just so that driveway can be heated.

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Old Posted Sep 26, 2019, 7:29 PM
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Who owned the precast before then? I thought it was inland who owned it. Was it Armtec?
Yes, it was armtec. Two separate but similar companies side by each. Maybe it was all one company at one time, I don't know.
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^^^ my guess is that it provides a light weight base below the new driveway slab to ensure the existing ceiling slab of the parkade below can support it structurally (i.e. a grade supported concrete driveway slab, but the "grade" is made up of high density rigid insulation).

As a bonus, it also provides "roof" insulation for the parkade below.

It's expensive, but much cheaper than structurally reinforcing the underside of the existing parkade ceiling slab.
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Is that heated driveway a real thing? Where is the water going to go? What is underneath the driveway?

Maybe they are insulating the roof of whatever is underneath.
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I guess I missed them ripping out the old driveway concrete.

Using foam is kind of a newer thing. But it's quite common in highway project for embankment fill. Instead of piling up dirt, EPS foam is used to minimize settlement. However it needs protection from fuels and such, so requires a liner to be placed over top. It also floats, so buoyancy needs to be thought out. Shouldn't be an issue here. I would presume they will put gravel on top before concrete.
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^ they will pour directly on top of the insulation, or possibly with a layer of poly over.

No gravel, as it's too heavy.

The concrete will fill in the voids, so it won't float away.
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Not sure but it looks like they will be putting in a wheel chair ramp to the right of the bus shack.
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^ they will pour directly on top of the insulation, or possibly with a layer of poly over.

No gravel, as it's too heavy.

The concrete will fill in the voids, so it won't float away.
haha I'd hope it doesn't float away here. I wonder if the concrete would eat away the foam though.. I assume this has been thought out.
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