Should Quebec be allowed to have its own national team in intl sports tournaments?

[saffronleaf]

While some sports tournaments focus on sovereign states alone, many allow nations within sovereign states to have their own teams in international sports.

We see this a lot with the UK. In some tournaments, they must participate as the UK. But where permitted, they will often participate instead as England, Scotland, and Ireland.

Should Quebec be permitted or encouraged to have its own team in international sports tournaments?

Perhaps Newfoundland, as well?

Would the 'Rest of Canada' team be simply called Canada?

I think Quebec should be permitted and encouraged to have its own national teams, especially in sports where Canada is otherwise strong (like hockey). In a sport we never qualify in, I might prefer we stick together as one team to at least try to qualify into the big tournaments and grow the game (like soccer).

[FrankieFlowerpot]

No.

[Jaws]

Sounds like a great plan to drive a bigger wedge between Quebec and the ROC.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by saffronleaf

While some sports tournaments focus on sovereign states alone, many allow nations within sovereign states to have their own teams in international sports.

We see this a lot with the UK. In some tournaments, they must participate as the UK. But where permitted, they will often participate instead as England, Scotland, and Ireland.

Should Quebec be permitted or encouraged to have its own team in international sports tournaments?

Perhaps Newfoundland, as well?

Would the 'Rest of Canada' team be simply called Canada?

I think Quebec should be permitted and encouraged to have its own national teams, especially in sports where Canada is otherwise strong (like hockey). In a sport we never qualify in, I might prefer we stick together as one team to at least try to qualify into the big tournaments and grow the game (like soccer).

You've suggested this before, haven't you?

I think that the UK is a fairly unique case, and it generally applies only sports which have their roots there like soccer and rugby (and maybe cricket?). So it mostly exists as a tradition. Kinda like how Greece always enters the Olympic stadium first.

[Hawrylyshyn]

Definitely not. In that case every province may as well get their own team..

[someone123]

Originally Posted by Acajack

You've suggested this before, haven't you?

I think that the UK is a fairly unique case, and it generally applies only sports which have their roots there like soccer and rugby (and maybe cricket?). So it mostly exists as a tradition. Kinda like how Greece always enters the Olympic stadium first.

I'd guess that in those cases you see England competing separately too. Not, say, Wales versus the "rest of the UK".

[svlt]

No. No precedent and no reason to open that wound/division.

I'm not so sure Quebecers want their own team anyway? What sport would they be competitive in? Ice hockey?

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by someone123

I'd guess that in those cases you see England competing separately too. Not, say, Wales versus the "rest of the UK".

Correct. If we follow that logic, Quebec's team should probably called "Canada", no?

[whatnext]

No.

[905er]

why?????? is this really a question for a skyscraper forum? ...also are we trying to create a wedge here?..

[saffronleaf]

Why so much opposition?

I don't see how Quebec isn't at least as distinctive and a nation of its own as Scotland is from England, for example.

Recognizing that nationhood can let Quebec develop its identity further and make it feel more like it belongs in Canada, which is multinational in character but not so much when it comes to real life expressions of that, like in sport.

Just imagine Canada Quebec international hockey matches...

[SkahHigh]

As a Quebecer, no.

[DLLB]

No!

[Acajack]

Quebec-ROC hockey games would be epic!

[thenoflyzone]

No.

The UK is an exception. The UK is always an exception. They are weird like that. For one, they drive on the wrong side of the road. Don’t feel the need to follow their lead on anything.

[theman23]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Quebec-ROC hockey games would be epic!

I can’t remember the last star player to come out of Quebec. It would probably be pretty lopsided.

[Hali87]

Originally Posted by theman23

I can’t remember the last star player to come out of Quebec. It would probably be pretty lopsided.

My overall opinion here is that if Quebec (or any other Canadian sub-federal entity) wanted to compete with their own team on the international stage... go ahead, but they'd have such a small talent pool that they seem unlikely to be very competitive at anything.

I think that other countries would find this a bit pedantic/redundant though and would likely discourage it.

[Loco101]

Or how about each First Nation can have an international team.

[saffronleaf]

Originally Posted by theman23

I can’t remember the last star player to come out of Quebec. It would probably be pretty lopsided.

Lafreniere looks like he will be a star.

Of course it will be tilted in favor of Canada -- just look at the population numbers.

But if it's a single game elimination tournament, anything can happen. If Sweden and Finland can win or go far, Quebec certainly can do so. They would be underdogs though, for sure.

But Quebec - ROC games would be nuts.

Could see them getting intense in soccer too in the distant future.

[saffronleaf]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Correct. If we follow that logic, Quebec's team should probably called "Canada", no?

Yea the ROC team would need a name, though probably just Canada would be fine?