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Old Posted Dec 20, 2007, 9:23 PM
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What does winning a Grey Cup have to do with population growth?
Nothing at all, but apparently it carries some weight in a pissing match.
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I'll take the hotter economy, faster growth, and the Grey Cup over your extra 180,000 people.

Thanks.
Not to keep fueling this pissing match, but there is a reason there are an extra 180,000 people here. It may have something to do with the comparative "hotness" of the economies of Manitoba and Sask. historically...
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so it said in the news paper that Sasks population has been rising since 2006 where it hit its lowest (986,000 or something) in the early eighties. so something like 20 thousand in that short of time? i find that impressive.
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Comparing Manitoba and Saskatchewan is like comparing two apples.... pointless. Lets just all be happy that both provinces and for that matter the entire west is doing well.
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Comparing Manitoba and Saskatchewan is like comparing two apples.... pointless. Lets just all be happy that both provinces and for that matter the entire west is doing well.
Amen brother...See not so hard. But on a serious note I am glad both provinces are doing well, lets hope it continues and we can draw beyond what we have lost due to outmigration and actually both become more desired destinations for years to come...
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Comparing Manitoba and Saskatchewan is like comparing two apples.... pointless. Lets just all be happy that both provinces and for that matter the entire west is doing well.
Exactly. As robust the economies of Saskatchewan and Manitoba are, there is a huge future and potential for both of these provinces, because at the end of the day, we're all fruits of our nature. It sounds really corny, but it's true.

Now let's end the pissing contest here.
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Exactly. As robust the economies of Saskatchewan and Manitoba are, there is a huge future and potential for both of these provinces, because at the end of the day, we're all fruits of our nature. It sounds really corny, but it's true.

Now let's end the pissing contest here.
Who you callin a fruit? Well, o.k. maybe I am, but I'm sure many of our more homphobic citizens are desparately searching for their hunting and fishing magazines to prove you wrong.
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Not that this is great news environmentally, but apparently there is talk (and only talk at this point) that there are some pretty heafty oil reserves in the Carman, Winkler, Morden and Pilot Mound areas in Manitoba. Since I work in the oil and gas industry, I've overheard some conversations from clientel over the summer of this possibility. Some serious bucks could be in store for Manitoba if this pans out to be true, however I'm not so crazy of the environmental cost that would accompany it.
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Not that this is great news environmentally, but apparently there is talk (and only talk at this point) that there are some pretty heafty oil reserves in the Carman, Winkler, Morden and Pilot Mound areas in Manitoba. Since I work in the oil and gas industry, I've overheard some conversations from clientel over the summer of this possibility. Some serious bucks could be in store for Manitoba if this pans out to be true, however I'm not so crazy of the environmental cost that would accompany it.
There's already an oil bonanza going on in Western ND, stretching all the way from Sidney, MT to the west and Bowman, ND to the south to near Minot in the east. I'm sure there may be more off to the north of Minot near Brandon. Williston recently has seen a huge population boom due to the oil. Could a place like Brandon be next??
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Probably not but one can hope. Brandon needs all the help it can get.
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^ I was under the impression that Brandon was doing quite well and had a healthy growth rate.
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Not to keep fueling this pissing match, but there is a reason there are an extra 180,000 people here. It may have something to do with the comparative "hotness" of the economies of Manitoba and Sask. historically...
Yeah, and "historically" Canada had the 3rd largest Navy in the world. Doesn't have much effect today though does it?

I guess in otherwords, you're declaring a "has been" (if it ever was)?
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Comparing Manitoba and Saskatchewan is like comparing two apples.... pointless. Lets just all be happy that both provinces and for that matter the entire west is doing well.
Pretty much. But twin siblings have to one up each other once in a while, don't they?
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Congratulations, Saskatchewan, on having one million people again! Lets party like it's 1986!!

Maybe in a few years, Northwestern Ontario will climb back up to a quarter million? Look out Saskatoon! We're almost as populous as you!!
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Probably not but one can hope. Brandon needs all the help it can get.
Um...well more good news never hurts but Brandon has been on the up-and-up for a while now.
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Its nice to see saskatchewan over a million again.

And southern saskatchewan also has very large oil reserves. Its said we possibly have more than alberta.
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The following should provide some valuable information to those interested in our past successes and failures, and what possibilities can and will arise in the future.
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Originally Posted by Saskatchewan Rising - Graham F. Parsons



Preface



How is it that Saskatchewan, a province with a proud history, an
abundance of natural resources and a smart population could not
for many years sustain a growing population? Since 1971 over one
half a million residents left the province to seek opportunity and
fortune elsewhere. Saskatchewan people, born, raised and
educated in the province left to become leaders in other provinces
of Canada and around the World.

This book is a short essay on our contemporary understanding of
economic growth and wealth creation applied to the Saskatchewan
case. It is written by a professional economist trained in
economics, government and political science at the University of
London and with over thirty years of experience living and
working in the province.

This essay is also a sequel to the earlier book published in 2002 by
the Prairie Policy Centre called This Year Country – Creating
Wealth in Saskatchewan. It incorporates some of the latest
international understanding of how regions grow in the modern
world and examines Saskatchewan’s performance in these areas
since the Second World War.

Saskatchewan was formed in 1905 as a province with boundless
optimism. It’s approach towards development served its people
well. The province grew from 25,000 in 1911 to nearly one million
people just before the Second World War. For a short time
Saskatchewan was the third largest province in Canada.

Since the Second World War, Liberal, New Democrat and
Conservative Governments all tried to create economic wealth and
an attractive living environment for provincial residents. Through
most of the twentieth century the province continued to increase
its economic output, but lost jobs as agriculture restructured and
people from the country and the cities left the province.

It is my contention that the wealth creation in Saskatchewan
suffered from a model of social and economic growth that is not
compatible with either the fundamental forces that create wealth
and employment or the opportunities that are now available in the
21st Century. Maintaining the status quo, the long standing
preoccupation of political parties and many in the public life, is a
recipe for continued out migration and population decline.

There are alternatives. Today we know a great deal about the
forces that create wealth and employment in society. They are
being applied successfully in many jurisdictions around the world.
Saskatchewan has an opportunity to change the direction of its
development with many benefits for its residents.

In 2007 Saskatchewan again entered an era of huge economic
opportunity in energy, the environment, in mining, in Western
Canada and even in agriculture. The provincial population has
once again passed the elusive one million people mark but can
Saskatchewan sustain its growth into the coming decades?

It is time for the Province to realize its economic opportunities and
benefits for the next generation of Saskatchewan children. It is
time to move beyond the cycles of electoral politics and political
intervention and control of the economy and to lay the foundation
and plans for several generations of success and to better realise
Saskatchewan’s economic destiny.

Graham F. Parsons
Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
December 2007

Table of Contents

Preface
I. A BRIGHT START 1
II. GETTING STUCK AFTER WORLD WAR II. 3
III. WHY IS ECONOMIC GROWTH IMPORTANT? 8
IV. HOW AN ECONOMY GROWS 11
V. EMERGING UNDERSTANDINGS OF ECONOMIC GROWTH 21
VI. FUNDAMENTALS IN SASKATCHEWAN’S WORLD 30
VII. NEW GLOBAL OPPORTUNITY FRAMEWORKS FOR GROWTH 38
VIII. NEW DIRECTIONS FOR THE 21ST CENTURY 52
IX. PLANNING FOR GROWTH 92
X. SECURING THE FUTURE 132

READINGS 137
ANNEX A:Measuring the Economy and Economic Growth 139
Complete essay
http://www.prairiecentre.com/pdf/2008/SASKRISING.pdf
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