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View Poll Results: Best Historical Skyscraper in Winnipeg?
Union Bank Building (504 Main) 12 24.00%
Grain Exchange Building (167 Lombard) 2 4.00%
Lindsay Building (228 Notre Dame) 1 2.00%
Confederation Building (457 Main) 10 20.00%
National Bank Building (191 Lombard) 4 8.00%
Hotel Fort Garry (222 Broadway) 5 10.00%
Electric Railway Chambers (213 Notre Dame) 5 10.00%
Paris Building (259 Portage) 3 6.00%
Hamilton Building (395 Main) 4 8.00%
Federal Building (269 Main) 4 8.00%
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I tried to compile a list of the tallest buildings in Winnipeg pre-WW2 (not including Churches and the Legislature). I used Google Earth Pro to try to determine the heights but I approximated them to the nearest meter. All buildings taller than 35 metres are included (anything shorter is a low-rise according to Emporis). Mechanical floors are not included in the height (which in most cases would add about 3-5 metres).

1. Hotel Fort Garry (1913) 10 floors.......................59 m
2. Cityplace (1916, 1921) 9 floors..........................52 m
3. National Bank Building (1913) 12 floors...............50 m
4. Childs Building (1909-1988) 12 floors..................49 m
5. Federal Building (1936) 11 floors........................48 m
6. Union Bank Building (1904) 10 floors..................45 m
7. Electric Railway Chambers (1912) 11 floors..........45 m
8. Bank of Hamilton Building (1918) 10 floors..........44 m
9. Confederation Building (1912) 10 floors...............43 m
10. Paris Building (1915, 1917) 11 floors.................42 m
11. Grain Exchange Building (1908, 1913) 10 floors...40 m
12. Ogilvie Mill Elevator (1882, 1918) 11 floors.......~40 m ???
13. Lindsay Building (1912) 10 floors......................38 m
14. Marlborough Hotel (1914, 1923) 9 floors............36 m
15. Eaton's Store (1905, 1908-2003) 8 floors............36 m
16. Sterling Building (1911) 9 floors.......................36 m
17. Great West Life Building (1911, 1923) 8 floors.....36 m
18. Boyd Building (1912) 9 floors...........................36 m
19. Somerset Building (1906) 9 floors.....................35 m
20. Watkins Building (1914) 10 floors......................35 m
Great list...The Fort Garry Hotel has 14 floors. There are 10 floors of rooms, plus the main, mezzanaine and 2 other top floors where the peaks are.
Eaton's also had a 9th floor = printing offices, merchandise display offices and separate mens and ladies staff lounges.
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Great list...The Fort Garry Hotel has 14 floors. There are 10 floors of rooms, plus the main, mezzanaine and 2 other top floors where the peaks are.
Eaton's also had a 9th floor = printing offices, merchandise display offices and separate mens and ladies staff lounges.
That's why some sources list the Hotel Fort Garry as having 10 floors and others 14 floors...I was wondering why there was such a difference but that makes sense. Its the same thing for the Bank of Hamilton Building, it officially has 9 floors but a mezzanine brings it up to 10.

In your opinion, should the rooftop floors (like Eaton's display floor) be included in the official height? All of my estimated heights except for the Hotel Fort Garry and Watkins Building do not include these rooftop floors. If they should be I could make a revised list.
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http://www.mhs.mb.ca/docs/sites/unionbankbuilding.shtml

Appreciate the additions Stormer and the thread balletomane. A few additional adds..


http://manitobahot.com/2014/08/archi...omment-page-1/

http://blogs.rrc.ca/culex/about/pgi/

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The Grain Exchange has a rooftop floor as well.

I like the Hamilton Building. Those chandeliers on the main floor - just a circle with 40 or so light bulbs tightly spaced...does any other building here have those? Like a lot of old bank design elements, they were meant to show off wealth when light bulbs were a fancy new thing - "Look at us! Look at all our light bulbs! Your money is safe here!"
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Absolutely love that RRC took that building and converted it - I'm not sure - are all the floors part of the College?

Just awesome. wish we could see more old buildings like that taken over by the schools. Even if UW and RRC take a couple of more goes a long way (only so many taller buildings to go around - but even just mean in general with the older Exchange buildings)

UW seems to have slown down a bit since that science building with Elements and the curvey student housing. (At least not many new projects I'm aware of besides the new one on campus - small theatre type addition) I remember reading that the Holiday Inn would be converted to student residences wayyyy back. Thought that would be great idea.
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^ It's not really a skyscraper, but I wish someone/something could get its hands on the Millennium Centre. It's such a beautiful heritage jewel that is being squandered as a wedding/banquet hall.
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All the ones listed here are great, IMHO.

I have a hard time choosing.

I did used to work 3rd Fl-167 Lombard however in the 2000s, so I'm a bit "biased".

Also used to work 2nd Fl. 269 Main St. That bldg. looks marvellous at night lit up.

Early 2000s worked at the Paris Bldg.

I'd say that out of these 3, the Paris Bldg. was the nicest. When Agriculture & Agri-Food ended their lease in 2003 (?) the property manaement and owner made it a "World Trade Centre" for Winnipeg and fixed it up further.
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Tough question! I voted for the one that I think is most impressive, distinctive and reflective of Winnipeg's history... and that is the Hotel Fort Garry.

That said, I love every building on that list. You could easily make a case for any one of them.
Yes, the Poll should have been multi-choice.
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Yes, the Poll should have been multi-choice.
If I make a poll similar to this one in the future about another topic I'll make it multiple choice. I only joined the forum last month and didn't realize that was an option, still getting to know the place!

Thanks to everyone who posted photos above, I didn't want to cause I was afraid they'd end up far too large which is an annoyance to scroll through!
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Thanks for the photo! I'm assuming that was the original build, although it looks like their is a small change in surface detailing between the 6th and 7th floors. It looks like it was 9 floors by WW1.
No it was originally 7. I couldn't remember whether it was 6 or 7. I have pictures of Somerset as 7 in 1911 and 9 in 1913, so that narrows down the date of the expansion somewhat.
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Revised list of Winnipeg's tallest buildings pre-WW2 including rooftop floors, in brackets is the height without rooftop floors for comparison:

1. Hotel Fort Garry.....................59 m (59 m)
2. Eaton's Mail Order Building(s)...58 m (52 m)
3. National Bank Building.............55 m (50 m)
4. Childs Building.......................52 m (49 m)
5. Federal Building.....................48 m (48 m)
6. Union Bank Building................48 m (45 m)
7. Electric Railway Chambers.......48 m (45 m)
8. Bank of Hamilton Building........48 m (44 m)
9. Paris Building.........................46 m (42 m)
10. Grain Exchange Building.........46 m (40 m)
11. Confederation Building............45 m (42 m)
12. Lindsay Building.....................44 m (38 m)
13. Marlborough Hotel..................44 m (36 m)
14. Great West Life Building..........43 m (36 m)
15. Eaton's Department Store........41 m (36 m)
16. Boyd Building.........................41 m (36 m)
17. Ogilvie Mills Elevator...............40 m (40 m) ???
18. Sterling Building.....................39 m (36 m)
19. Somerset Building...................39 m (35 m)
20. Watkins Building.....................35 m (35 m)
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Revised list of Winnipeg's tallest buildings pre-WW2 including rooftop floors, in brackets is the height without rooftop floors for comparison:

1. Hotel Fort Garry.....................59 m (59 m)
2. Eaton's Mail Order Building(s)...58 m (52 m)
3. National Bank Building.............55 m (50 m)
4. Childs Building.......................52 m (49 m)
5. Federal Building.....................48 m (48 m)
6. Union Bank Building................48 m (45 m)
7. Electric Railway Chambers.......48 m (45 m)
8. Bank of Hamilton Building........48 m (44 m)
9. Paris Building.........................46 m (42 m)
10. Grain Exchange Building.........46 m (40 m)
11. Confederation Building............45 m (42 m)
12. Lindsay Building.....................44 m (38 m)
13. Marlborough Hotel..................44 m (36 m)
14. Great West Life Building..........43 m (36 m)
15. Eaton's Department Store........41 m (36 m)
16. Boyd Building.........................41 m (36 m)
17. Ogilvie Mills Elevator...............40 m (40 m) ???
18. Sterling Building.....................39 m (36 m)
19. Somerset Building...................39 m (35 m)
20. Watkins Building.....................35 m (35 m)
If you're counting 8 storey buildings like the Great-West Life Building, there were a number of others that are no longer around in the 8-9 storey range - the Notre Dame Investment Building, the Trust & Loan Building, the Coca-Cola Building (I think it was around 8 floors), plus some of the bigger warehouses like Codville. The Keewayden Bldg. should probably be in there too.
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It's a shame we tore all of that down.
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If you're counting 8 storey buildings like the Great-West Life Building, there were a number of others that are no longer around in the 8-9 storey range - the Notre Dame Investment Building, the Trust & Loan Building, the Coca-Cola Building (I think it was around 8 floors), plus some of the bigger warehouses like Codville. The Keewayden Bldg. should probably be in there too.
The Keewayden building is 7 floors and about 33 metres (30 without rooftop), I think the Codville Warehouse was 7 floors as well, but its hard to estimate the heights of those demolished buildings.

When was the Coca-Cola Building demolished? It looks like it was quite a nice building and probably fairly prominent because it was a couple blocks west of the Exchange.
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The Keewayden building is 7 floors and about 33 metres (30 without rooftop), I think the Codville Warehouse was 7 floors as well, but its hard to estimate the heights of those demolished buildings.

When was the Coca-Cola Building demolished? It looks like it was quite a nice building and probably fairly prominent because it was a couple blocks west of the Exchange.
Well, the Notre Dame Investment Building was 8 storeys and backed on to the Keewayden and was a bit taller -- so that should allow you to make your estimate.

From my 1928 Winnipeg building photo, it's hard to see the Notre Dame Investment Building as significantly shorter than the Great-West Life Building.

Winnipeg Buildings 1928 (Main) by wintorbos, on Flickr

There's also the Great West Permanent Building (not sure if that is the right name - I did this about 10 years ago) on Main Street which is 9 floors plus a substantial mechanical room on top.
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Judging by the picture, it looks like those demolished buildings (Notre Dame Investment, Trust and Loan, Great West Permanent) were a little above the Keewayden and slightly below the Great West Life, so maybe 34 or 35 metres?

Thanks for the picture! I remember seeing a photo like this (and maybe one looking east on Portage?), its nice that all those significant historic buildings are labelled.
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Judging by the picture, it looks like those demolished buildings (Notre Dame Investment, Trust and Loan, Great West Permanent) were a little above the Keewayden and slightly below the Great West Life, so maybe 34 or 35 metres?

Thanks for the picture! I remember seeing a photo like this (and maybe one looking east on Portage?), its nice that all those significant historic buildings are labelled.
Yes, I did one on Portage as well. It was hard sorting out the smaller buildings along Main Street on this image so I gave up. There seemed to be more buildings than there were addresses in the Henderson Directory, or the other way around.
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Kind of partial to the Federal building. Love the imposing stance. They call it "Classical Moderne" and although it pre-dates brutalist architecture by a few years, I get a hint of that from it as well.

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