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Originally Posted by CoryB
Because the change is simply not needed. Basically four buildings east of Main St are impacted in a slightly negative way by the status quo.
Changing that would have negative ripple effects throughout downtown and likely result in a net loss of businesses downtown not to mention the added costs to transit.
As proposed last year the cost benefit analysis did not support the plan as presented.
"Team Close Minded Open" fails to grasp those basic concepts which is why they lost the vote.
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1. Misleading. Obviously the properties at the intersection are doing ok, but they would, as would life downtown, be doing better. Access, ingress/egress, user mobility (which is vehicular AND pedestrian) are of premium importance to property owners and proespective tenants. So kinda necessary. this has been discussed ad nauseum.
2. Absolutely fucking not. Businesses LOVE pedestrian access. Offices LOVE pedestrian access. Team closed forgets that any tiddly increase in traffic time is more than offset by pedestrian activity. Why do you think that landlords frequently conduct pedestrian counts and condo projects proudly display their walk scores?
3. Lol, on what basis? A one year evaluation? 5? We have a social and economic limiter permanently in place at our primary corner. We couldn't quantify it accurately but damn, 10-20M is a pittance compared to other civic projects.
4. Team Closed is the closed minded one. They were presented with reports, facts, and intellegent arguments, and rejected it all. Sorry.
I get this forum can be an echo chamber but how have you not adjusted your position yet?
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Originally Posted by EdwardTH
If they actually cared about pedestrian safety they would be pushing for traffic calming. Somehow I doubt the Team Closed folks are embracing the 30km speed limit idea.
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Nobody should embrace a 30 kmh speed limit.
Life is busy, and it's not a guarantee. 50kmh is slow, pay attention and keep your head on a swivel. It shouldn't be society's goal to dumb everything down to foolproof levels because we'll find something else to get foolhardy over anyway.
Short of small towns, Winnipeggers are the slowest drivers I can recall out of any city. Perhaps the dopiest also. THAT needs to be tackled. Education, not punishing every behaviour.