Winnipeg | 300 Main St.- Phase II / 360 Main St. | ~142M | 465 Ft | 42F | U/C

[buzzg]

One thing interesting about the flyover from the website is the size of the crosswalks at Graham and Main. I know it's just a render, but with the accuracy of the rest of the image, I wonder if they hope to open it up and make it a little more active there.

[balletomane]

I wonder why the flyover doesn't incorporate the new design and, is One Portage and Main going to still be built some years down the road, cause its in all their renderings
According to the Free Press work on 300 main will be starting sometime this month or next month, however it will be fairly "underwhelming" cause they'll be focused on moving around ducts, etc. in Winnipeg Square around the food court. The tower crane should be placed above the elevator shaft for the original tower, but 300 main won't start rising until late summer.

[MG922]

Originally Posted by balletomane

I wonder why the flyover doesn't incorporate the new design and, is One Portage and Main going to still be built some years down the road, cause its in all their renderings

Interesting, good catch! here's a screencap:

[esquire]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

forst st wont change much theres underground parking access and exits there kinda makes hard to do anything

It's just a bit of a letdown given that the pad in between the two towers was meant for a building that occupied the width of the block between Main and Fort, but judging by the rendering the planned structure will fill maybe 1/3 of that space. It's better than nothing and it will still dramatically improve the way the Main Street side looks, but it's hard to forget what was initially planned.

It's a bit easier to get over the fact that 300 Main will only occupy half of the pad space (or less, by the looks of it) because of that building's impressive height, but the bottom line is that there will be a lot of space sitting permanently empty on that block after these projects are built.

[Biff]

Ray Wan is the Architect for this project and he designed the now failed One Portage so I imagine that this allows it to live on in the renderings.

[GreyGarden]

It's not included in the renderings but it would be nice if the rooftop of the podium included usable space.

[tree]

Originally Posted by esquire

It's just a bit of a letdown given that the pad in between the two towers was meant for a building that occupied the width of the block between Main and Fort, but judging by the rendering the planned structure will fill maybe 1/3 of that space. It's better than nothing and it will still dramatically improve the way the Main Street side looks, but it's hard to forget what was initially planned.

It's a bit easier to get over the fact that 300 Main will only occupy half of the pad space (or less, by the looks of it) because of that building's impressive height, but the bottom line is that there will be a lot of space sitting permanently empty on that block after these projects are built.

If something ever gets built where that SkyCity thing was / is supposed to be I'd hope that would help alleviate it somewhat and maybe make the spacing there more appealing?

[tree]

Originally Posted by Biff

Ray Wan is the Architect for this project and he designed the now failed One Portage so I imagine that this allows it to live on in the renderings.

I hope something similar to that is built there. I just heard about that project and think it looked great.

[bomberjet]

There also ramps to the parkade on the Main St. side and a drop off area. So same situation there.

It would almost seem there is a phase 3 to this complex. The new tower will be only on the east side of the pad site. There's still room for something else at that end. And the building in between towers is fronting Main, like was noted. So seems like there's still potential for something to some of the Fort side.

I would hope they will at least reclad everything that's left. Hopefully the Scotiabank building will get re-clad now that its being sold.

[robertocarlos]

^^^^^^ I like the parking lot on the left. You need parking downtown.

[Urban recluse]

360 Main would be more interesting if one half was higher than the other

[Wolf13]

Originally Posted by balletomane

Does anyone know if 300 main will have some sort of public observation area? I know SkyCity was supposed to have some sort of sky lounge, but there seems to be a lot of speculation as to whether that will even be built.
Winnipeg really needs an observation area at its highest point, the Richardson had one years ago but that's been long closed and Prairie 360 and the CMHR are obstructed in some directions because they aren't the highest point.

It won't be open to the public, just residents. Artis has long indicated a gathering/amentity space for the top floor.

Originally Posted by esquire

^ Interesting find. The flyover view is cool, although underwhelming in terms of what it all means for Fort Street. Looks like nothing will be changing on that side.

This website was created before the latest renderings were released. Ultimately, these limited renderings are from the same release seen over a year ago... they only serve to convey the general idea and scope at this point. These are before the drawings even started.

Originally Posted by 1ajs

forst st wont change much theres underground parking access and exits there kinda makes hard to do anything

True. There is next to nothing that can be ADDED on fort, but what is there will be dressed up for sure.

Originally Posted by GreyGarden

It's not included in the renderings but it would be nice if the rooftop of the podium included usable space.

They've promised podium rooftop space for residents and amenities. Also looks like there is opportunity for a restaurant rooftop in new renderings.

Originally Posted by bomberjet

There also ramps to the parkade on the Main St. side and a drop off area. So same situation there.

It would almost seem there is a phase 3 to this complex. The new tower will be only on the east side of the pad site. There's still room for something else at that end. And the building in between towers is fronting Main, like was noted. So seems like there's still potential for something to some of the Fort side.

I would hope they will at least reclad everything that's left. Hopefully the Scotiabank building will get re-clad now that its being sold.

Those renderings are primitive now... the new tower will phase its podium into the +15 walkways so that space is spoken for.

However, Artis has occasionally mentioned 3 phases, but phase 1 is the re-clad, 2 is the tower, 3 is the central portion.

Originally Posted by Urban recluse

360 Main would be more interesting if one half was higher than the other

That would also mirror the same staggered heights of 300. Good point.

[roccerfeller]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

There also ramps to the parkade on the Main St. side and a drop off area. So same situation there.

It would almost seem there is a phase 3 to this complex. The new tower will be only on the east side of the pad site. There's still room for something else at that end. And the building in between towers is fronting Main, like was noted. So seems like there's still potential for something to some of the Fort side.

I would hope they will at least reclad everything that's left. Hopefully the Scotiabank building will get re-clad now that its being sold.

I was just about to post some similar thoughts...it certainly appears that way doesn't it?

Originally Posted by Wolf13

Those renderings are primitive now... the new tower will phase its podium into the +15 walkways so that space is spoken for.

However, Artis has occasionally mentioned 3 phases, but phase 1 is the re-clad, 2 is the tower, 3 is the central portion.

Ah, interesting. Thanks Wolf.

Though, it would be certainly interesting if Artis did leave space for another high rise, somehow, on this site

[Biff]

Originally Posted by roccerfeller

Though, it would be certainly interesting if Artis did leave space for another high rise, somehow, on this site

From what I remember the middle pad site foundation was only built to accommodate approximately 8 storeys. My last conversation with Artis was that they have turned their attention away from finding a Hotelier to trying to secure a two storey or so retail tenant - grocer.

It would seem extremely remote that there would be any kind of high-rise on the middle pad.

[Cam]

Originally Posted by Biff

From what I remember the middle pad site foundation was only built to accommodate approximately 8 storeys. My last conversation with Artis was that they have turned their attention away from finding a Hotelier to trying to secure a two storey or so retail tenant - grocer.

It would seem extremely remote that there would be any kind of high-rise on the middle pad.

Some kind of midrise would be nice though

[Wolf13]

Midrise would be ideal... perhaps too ideal. A more realistic idea would hopefully be a grocer.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by Cam

Some kind of midrise would be nice though

That pad was intended for a lowrise atrium hotel... think a fairly large but low slung O-shaped hotel around a central atrium (centred on the part of Winnipeg Square that has the raised ceiling). As Biff said, it probably won't get much higher than the 8 storeys that was originally envisioned, although I think the original concept of a hotel that size would be fantastic.

[Spocket]

So....when can some activity on site be expected?

[1ajs]

once the facade of 360 is done i think is whats been said a few times in the media

[jmt18325]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

once the facade of 360 is done i think is whats been said a few times in the media

Actually, I thought there was an article recently that said May. There's some relocation work that needs to be done before the tower can start to rise.