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Old Posted Oct 31, 2019, 1:22 PM
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It's funny, because the part they just demolished was the new addition built not that long ago. I understand that it is all being demolished but it sounds strange saying the "old Manitoba Clinic".
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Old Posted Oct 31, 2019, 1:29 PM
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So what's happening with the old-old Manitoba Clinic? Is it getting demolished too?
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Old Posted Oct 31, 2019, 1:33 PM
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Supposed to be, yes.
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The "old" Manitoba Clinic is where my pediatrician was when I was growing up.

Is anything slated to go up after they are done the demo?
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Old Posted Oct 31, 2019, 2:36 PM
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The plan before the "New" Manitoba Clinic building was constructed was to demolish the old building and build the now "cancelled, on hold, delayed" Cancer Care tower.

Where that sits with the new government is anyone's guess. I would think there is a plan, because demolishing the building now will leave a horrid hole in what I like as one of Winnipeg's nicest and liveliest street-scapes......McDermot Ave between Emily and Sherbrook.
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Old Posted Oct 31, 2019, 2:45 PM
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Where that sits with the new government is anyone's guess. I would think there is a plan, because demolishing the building now will leave a horrid hole in what I like as one of Winnipeg's nicest and liveliest street-scapes......McDermot Ave between Emily and Sherbrook.
I think there's a civic bylaw that you have to have at least one large surface parking lot per built-up city block.

But seriously, I have been hearing rumours about CancerCare… "delayed" is probably the most apt way of putting it.
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Not sure if the thread title should be changed as the "new" Manitoba Clinic is no longer under construction.

In terms of the old building, while it was structural sound the reality is the building was very outdated for modern medical use. Regardless of when something new goes up it needed to go. Get it cleared out and convert it to a simple green space with some grass until the new building is ready to proceed.

In terms of patient care, I think moving Cancer Care to a mostly physically separated building is a good idea long term. Right now there is an entrance to Cancer Care directly off the main HSC hallway. It doesn't have a lot of benefit to patients and does lead to the occasional lost person wandering needlessly through Cancer Care. Considering cancer patients are often have compromised immune systems the new building could be locked down and only let authorized people in.
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Old Posted Dec 2, 2022, 3:44 PM
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The Manitoba Clinic has run into financial difficulties, according to the Free Press:

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Creditor protection keeps Manitoba Clinic doors open
By: Katie May
Posted: 7:00 PM CST Thursday, Dec. 1, 2022

Manitoba’s largest private medical clinic is in financial crisis and has been granted creditor protection.

The Winnipeg-based Manitoba Clinic will now have to restructure its operations and finances under court supervision.

The medical center hasn’t been able to recruit enough physicians to make ends meet, and part of its recently expanded Sherbrook Street facility is still sitting vacant. It would have to shut down if not for the creditor protection, court documents say.

The clinic, under its parent company Manitoba Clinic Holding Co. Ltd., received a court order Thursday morning that puts a consulting firm (Alvarez & Marsal) in charge of monitoring its business and finances while it undergoes restructuring.

Patient care won’t be affected and daily operations are still business as usual for staff, patients and physicians and other tenants in its building, Manitoba Clinic chief executive officer Keith McConnell said.

The court order allows the clinic to keep up day-to-day operations as normal, he added.

“Our primary concern is ensuring that patients are not disrupted or confused” through this process, McConnell said, emphasizing the clinic continues to care for a large inner-city population and seeking to assure the public they can still book appointments and see its physicians as usual.

Manitoba Clinic applied for and was granted creditor protection Wednesday afternoon in the Court of King’s Bench, citing insolvency.

The financial challenges, according to its court filing, stem from its failure to recruit a full complement of doctors amid physician departures — since 90 per cent of its revenue comes from physicians’ billings to the provincial health department.

The clinic also needed to fill 52,000 square feet of unused space in the Sherbrook Street facility, which underwent an expansion in 2018. Attempts to lease the vacant space and hold two closed sales didn’t solve the issues.

The clinic has been losing money since 2018, court documents state, and by the end of last year, its operating losses totalled more than $8 million.

On Thursday, a provincial government spokesman stated: “The minister of health and the department are aware of financial issues at the privately owned Manitoba Clinic and has engaged in a number of ways to assist the corporation… Our government will work with physicians and staff looking to enter the Manitoba health system for employment or work arrangement opportunities.”

Before seeking court-ordered creditor protection, the clinic tried cutting support staff, raising parking rates, increasing the fees physicians bill for disposable medical supplies and other rates. It also went through public tender processes to contract out some services while trying to attract more doctors.

Manitoba Clinic has been trying to restructure since early 2021; McConnell took over as CEO in late December 2021, court documents show.

The Winnipeg medical centre currently has a roster of 71 physicians and about 170 support staff. Its doctors perform 49,000 medical procedures and log 306,000 patient visits per year, its court filing states.

— with files from Dan Lett

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Old Posted Dec 2, 2022, 4:24 PM
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I know a few docs that practiced there and retirement coupled with very high rent at Manitoba Clinic has made it untenable over the long haul. My specialist was telling me the rent is sky high- cheaper for her to relocate.
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I know a few docs that practiced there and retirement coupled with very high rent at Manitoba Clinic has made it untenable over the long haul. My specialist was telling me the rent is sky high- cheaper for her to relocate.
Hmm... there was a perfectly good medical clinic tower downtown that I'm sure had reasonable rents... whatever happened to that place?
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I’m sure they can re-purpose it back…I mean, isn’t the Medical Arts banner still up at the top? There is a time saver right there.
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There was also the Boyd Building. One of my specialists relocated to the far inferior St Boniface Clinic (Goulet @ Taché).
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Bad news for the Manitoba Clinic, a pile of doctors are leaving:

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/br...-deal-critical

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Doctors are fleeing Manitoba’s largest private medical clinic as the desperate facility continues to seek provincial help to avoid financial collapse.

Manitoba Clinic will lose 20 physicians between now and April, leaving only 36 expected to remain in practice there, according to the first report from the insolvency firm that’s been court-ordered to monitor the Winnipeg clinic’s financial operations during ongoing creditor-protection proceedings.

There is a critical need for the clinic to continue trying to reach a mutually beneficial agreement with the provincial government, and to retain its doctors, the monitor’s report states.
It's unfortunate, because it sounds like the docs took a gamble and lost... it probably won't do anything to encourage more such ventures. But I don't see why the province should necessarily bail them out. If there's a distressed asset on the market, let the province buy it at a discount.
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Bad news for the Manitoba Clinic, a pile of doctors are leaving:

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/br...-deal-critical



It's unfortunate, because it sounds like the docs took a gamble and lost... it probably won't do anything to encourage more such ventures. But I don't see why the province should necessarily bail them out. If there's a distressed asset on the market, let the province buy it at a discount.
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convert it to condos and boom, bobs your uncle

but seriously, if MBC goes under does it simply just go up for sale or does HSC own that land?
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I don't believe HSC does own the land.
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2023, 2:17 PM
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A good chunk of that land was a gas station until very recently, and Manitoba Clinic is a private enterprise, so I'd think it's very likely Manitoba Clinic, or some entity affiliated with it, owns the parcel of land that the building sits on.

Although now I am curious as to who owns the site of the old, demolished Manitoba Clinic... still the clinic, or was it sold to some other HSC-related entity (Cancercare, HSC, Shared Health, etc.)?
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2023, 2:34 PM
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If I remember correctly, HSC/Shared Health/Cancer Care wanted the site that the former MB Clinic was on for a new Cancer Care building. I recall there being some challenges because of the MB Clinic owning the land. All of this became moot when the Pallister axed the whole Cancer Care Project anyways.

I believe the MB Clinic owns all of the land on Sherbrook between Notre Dame and Mc Dermot.
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If I remember correctly, HSC/Shared Health/Cancer Care wanted the site that the former MB Clinic was on for a new Cancer Care building. I recall there being some challenges because of the MB Clinic owning the land. All of this became moot when the Pallister axed the whole Cancer Care Project anyways.

I believe the MB Clinic owns all of the land on Sherbrook between Notre Dame and Mc Dermot.
I think that would be a great use for the building- convert some of the floors or all of them for CancerCare.
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I think that would be a great use for the building- convert some of the floors or all of them for CancerCare.
It's amazing how poorly that building is designed to handle significant patient traffic. It boggles my mind every time I have the misfortune of attending an appointment there. Luckily my kids have outgrown their pediatrician and my doctor moved out of there a couple of years ago...but every once in a while I'll have to take a family member to a specialist who hasn't bailed out of there yet and it just sucks.

It's a pain to get around by design (too few elevators and you can't take the stairs because there's 5 levels of empty parking before the first floor of medical offices)...and it's been half-empty since day 1. I can't imagine what it would be like if it were fully occupied.

If CancerCare takes up a few floors for outpatient services, they better add a 4th elevator and maybe move the lab up to the main floor from the basement to cut down on elevator use.
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