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Old Posted Dec 18, 2013, 6:23 PM
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So basically this whole thing is unfolding exactly as predicted. So where are all these factories and jobs supposed to be? In between the subdivisions?
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To keep things in perspective, this is a proposal made by a group of landowners/speculators who happen to own some of the land in the AEGD zone. This is not official city policy.

All eyes must now be focused on the City. The City needs to be pressured to keep the game plan for AEGD exactly as it was originally proposed, and to say 'no' to the landowner's 'proposal' to allow any urban sprawl into the AEGD plan.
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I know Tradeport is totally against residential development south of Twenty Rd. and pushed back when this same group purchased the land a few years back. They purchased it for the sole purpose of residential development. Noise issues are the primary concern, especially considering Hamilton is busier at night than during the day. Page 65 of the Airport Master Plan clearly state the airport's position, which was the position of the city Councillors at the time. I hope it will be the position of the present Councillors. The master plan can be found here: http://www.investinhamilton.ca/wp-co...amp_update.pdf
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This is sure to be the first of many "concept plans", and we haven't even had the discussions to finalize what lands will be included yet.

Time for the city to walk all the talk. Whether they will is a big question.
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New housing near Aerotropolis won’t fly: councillors
(Hamilton Spectator, Matthew Van Dongen, Dec 19 2013)

Landowners seeking once again to carve out a chunk of airport employment lands for residential development say they're looking beyond the controversial aerotropolis battle.

So far, city officials aren't impressed with the vision.

A group of six landowners near the airport have pitched a "concept plan" to the city that includes setting aside about 70 hectares of land with frontage along Twenty Road for future residential development.

The Ontario Municipal Board recently approved the bitterly contested urban boundary expansion to add 555 hectares of new employment lands near the airport but also specifically shot down the idea of new housing.

"We're looking towards a future urban boundary expansion," said Ward Cameron, a member of the landowners group and president of Starward Homes. "We're not asking for residential approval out of this board hearing. We know that's not possible."

Cameron pointed out the city needs to shrink its original 662-hectare vision for aerotropolis, so setting aside 70 hectares as a "special policy area" should be possible. He added that existing residential along Twenty Road makes the area less suitable for employments lands.

He acknowledged a separate urban boundary expansion would be required to make new housing a reality in the currently rural-classified area.

The city would have to do another comprehensive review to prove a need for another urban boundary expansion for residential purposes, said airport development director Guy Paparella.

"I guess you can argue any position you want … but I don't think we're going to be revisiting history," said Paparella, who will deliver a report on possible boundaries for the employment lands in January. Council's position will go to the OMB late in the year.

Citizens at City Hall (CATCH) has posted maps of the concept plan and raised concerns about the potential servicing implications in the area.

The unsolicited pitch isn't popular with two ward councillors near the airport, either.

"I wasn't a fan of this (aerotropolis) decision in the first place," said Binbrook Councillor Brenda Johnson, who is a first-term councillor. "But regardless, taxpayers have now paid a lot of money ensuring this entire expansion is devoted to employment lands."

Ancaster Councillor Lloyd Ferguson, an aerotropolis fan, said he doesn't want to "waste time" on the idea. "The whole purpose of this exercise is to create jobs and businesses to ease the burden on the residential property taxpayer," he said. "I'm not moving off that strategy."
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So they're actually setting up for future development of lands that won't be in the AEGD. The CATCH article made it sound like this proposal was for part of the AEGD.

They rightly flagged the infrastructure service costs though. If something like this were to be approved in the short run, it would affect whatever servicing needs to happen in the first phase of AEGD development. I wasn't aware that the initial stage would be using available capacity - I figured they'd need to spend a bunch on new trunk lines right away.
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Industrial parks reaching capacity
(Hamilton Spectator, Steve Arnold, Dec 28 2013)

Hamilton is heading toward a land crunch that will cost it jobs in the future.

Neil Everson, the city's director of economic development, said the shortage of available land for new office buildings and factories isn't a crisis yet — but it will reach that point soon if action isn't taken.

"We get paid to attract and retain business in the area, but we also get paid to look five and 10 years down the road and this is what we see," he said.

By the numbers, Hamilton's inventory of land for new employers consists of 9,831 acres of ground in nine business parks as well as 600 acres controlled by the Hamilton Port Authority. The problem is that only about 5 per cent of the port authority's land remains available and the inventory is expected to be exhausted in two to three years. In addition, the city business parks are almost full. Even the newest — the 400 acre Red Hill South Business Park, home to the Canada Bread and Maple Leaf Foods plants — is about 25 per cent occupied.

Hamilton's industrial vacancy rate is only 1.3 per cent consisting mainly of former plants now sitting idle in the bayfront industrial area.

The vacancy rate has been in steady decline. It was 2.3 per cent in the second quarter of 2012 and 3.7 per cent in the second quarter of 2011. In comparison, across the bay, Burlington's vacancy rate in the second quarter of 2013 was 2.7 per cent, according to Colliers International, a commercial real estate company.

Guy Paparella, the city's director of growth planning, argues without action to increase its inventory of employment land the city could face a dismal future.

"They are critical to creating jobs, municipal assessment and economic development in the long term," he said. "The bottom line is if you only have residential development, it's not a balanced assessment base and you'll constantly need to increase taxes. When there is balance, there is a fair municipal assessment process and the community tends to thrive a lot better."

The chance for more jobs in Hamilton, he added, also means residents have to commute less, they have a better quality of life, there is less congestion, a better environment and more support for transit within the city.

In economic development jargon the business parks are called greenfield sites and the idle locations are called brownfields. Each is considered important to the future, but each comes with its own set of problems.

Brownfield sites, Everson said, are impossible to sell to clients such as food processors and software firms that simply will not locate on a site that once hosted heavy industry. Other issues include what can be staggering costs for environmental remediation and the fact most of the city's brownfield sites are small, scattered parcels that would be difficult to assemble into a package large enough to interest a major new employer. Another issue is the potential cost of modernizing water and sewer pipes and other services for new users. Other sites are owned by the steel companies and just aren't for sale.

"Take Canada Bread and Maple Leaf — if we didn't have a greenfield site to offer them we might have lost that chance," Everson said.

Two competing visions to solve the coming problem have been offered. Hamilton's answer is the 1,800-hectare Airport Employment Growth District, or aerotropolis, a plan that includes 555 hectares of potential employment land. Backers of that plan say it will give the city shovel-ready land needed to support hundreds of new jobs in addition to $50 million a year in taxes when the area is built out in 2031. Opponents argued the city should focus first on brownfield sites before embarking on what would amount to the largest expansion of its urban boundary in Hamilton's history. They said the expansion was too large, it will take valuable farm land out of production and cost $350 million to run municipal services and roads out to the site.

Those arguments were rejected by the Ontario Municipal Board which approved the expansion and Divisional Court which recently denied opponents leave to appeal the OMB decision. All that remains is for the OMB to approve the specific boundaries of the area, a decision expected in 2014.

City planning director Steve Robichaud has estimated the airport district will give Hamilton enough employment land to meet its needs for at least 10 years.

"In the short term it would be premature to say the city is running out of land, but the city must also look to the long term and our ability to accommodate growth over the next 15 to 20 years," he said. "For example, the OMB recently approved an Airport Employment Growth District that will accommodate the city's projected employment growth over the next 10 plus years."

A potential addition to the stock of employment land appeared in late October when U.S. Steel announced it will end steelmaking operations here. That prompted some people, such as Hamilton Port Authority president Bruce Wood, to cast covetous eyes at the company's 328-hectare Wilcox Street complex.

"We find ourselves running out of land for new investment; if the U.S. Steel property became available, we could put it to productive use, generating jobs and economic growth for the city," Wood told The Spectator.

U.S. Steel has refused to say if any of the excess land might be offered for sale. In the past, however, it has sold surplus land to the port authority — the 2006 sale of the former rod mill property.

Getting new land approved by development can be a lengthy process of public hearings usually filled with neighbours screaming "not in my back yard" and expensive lawyers arguing for housing development rather than industrial uses. That's why Everson and others are urging the city to start the process now.

"Doing all of that takes time," Everson said, and time is the enemy of economic development. "The companies we deal with know how to navigate the approvals process, but once that's done they want to get a shovel in the ground and get on with it."
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This article should send the AEGD opponents into fits.
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This article should send the AEGD opponents into fits.
If the math in this report is as bad as it was in the study that said we're running out of parking lots, then yes.
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If the math in this report is as bad as it was in the study that said we're running out of parking lots, then yes.
You can mock the Economic development people all you want , but the fact is whatever they are doing is working and I'll take their word for it when they say what is needed in the future to keep this city growing. They are the ones in touch with the people with the money and they know what those people want and need.
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The industrial land that used to pay for this city's services no longer does - but it's also not "available"?

Where were the aerotropolis proponents when walmart was lobbying the city to convert their land from industrial to retail?

The US steel land alone is 1.3 times the size of all of the port authority lands. Might be a good idea to figure out if that can be "made available" (more than doubling port auth lands) before scurrying to expand the urban boundary.

AEGD was pitched based on high acreage, low job density warehousing. Is that "productive use"?

How much did it cost us to attract canada bread and maple leaf?

The problem isn't ec dev's ability to understand industry needs. The problem is the way Hamilton chooses to fulfill those needs.
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^Couldn't have put it better myself.

And like many others, I don't look at the Canada Bread/ Maple Leaf situation as a 'win' for Hamilton necessarily. Yes, the City has a little more money coming in tax-wise but it took millions to lure them from another municipality. Seems phoney to me and I'm not sure very many new jobs were created either. The jury's out on that one.
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You can mock the Economic development people all you want , but the fact is whatever they are doing is working and I'll take their word for it when they say what is needed in the future to keep this city growing. They are the ones in touch with the people with the money and they know what those people want and need.
The people with the money are lying to us; this is lobbying by developers not fact. They say they won't touch brownfield lands but if it is remediated and sold to them at competitive rates they aren't going to be arguing aesthetics anymore. If we end the incentives to keep land underused then these parcels will be sold to people who will use them. Yes it is more expensive to remediate these lands but that's offset by the far smaller servicing costs.
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The US steel land alone is 1.3 times the size of all of the port authority lands. Might be a good idea to figure out if that can be "made available"
US Steel is still in operation, but the HPA has expressed interest, as indicated in the above article and in earlier press coverage:


Port Authority keen on US Steel land potential
(Hamilton Spectator, Teviah Moro, Nov 1 2013)

The Hamilton Port Authority is expressing interest in U.S. Steel's harbourfront property as the Pittsburgh-based company dials back its operations.

"We find ourselves running out of land for new investment; if the U.S. Steel property became available, we could put it to productive use, generating jobs and economic growth for the city," Bruce Wood, port authority president and CEO, told The Spectator in an emailed statement…

With steelmaking terminated, the blast furnace and basic oxygen furnace (BOF) are permanently mothballed hulks on the 328-hectare Wilcox Street complex, which spans piers 16, 17 and 18, and sits beside its easterly neighbour, ArcelorMittal Dofasco.

Coating and finishing jobs, performed by the cold mill, No. 3 galvanizing line and Z-line, remain operational. Coke ovens are also still in the mix.

The property was assessed at $166 million in 2013.

U.S. Steel won't say whether it plans to sell unused space on the site, or comment on the extent of that space's footprint....

....in 2006, the Hamilton Port Authority bought an unused steel rod mill from Stelco.

Wood noted the port authority and tenants spent $70 million to revitalize the parcel, where Lafarge Inc. and Yellowline's new asphalt cement terminal are located.



HPA should be looking into the MANA properties as well. They were a $106 million acquisition and redevelopment in 2010, and it may be a little more cut-and-dried.

FWIW, HPA was once pitched as part of the Aerotropolis CLC but I don't think they got across.
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Among Hamilton’s nine existing business parks:

“Airport Business Park is located in the southern portion of the City of Hamilton, above the Escarpment. The lands have a gross site area of approximately 735 acres primarily located on the west side of Highway No. 6, east of the Hamilton International Airport.”
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Building a future in the face of declining employment lands
(Hamilton Spectator, Dec 30 2013)

A closer look at the older, established areas of the city such as Stoney Creek, are key evidence to the mounting concern over the lack of available employment lands.

Hamilton's overall industrial vacancy rate is only 1.3 per cent consisting mainly of former plants now sitting idle in the bayfront industrial area — a decline from 3.7 per cent in the second quarter of 2011.

In the Stoney Creek and East Hamilton areas of the city, for sale signs are few and far between — in the West Hamilton business park, there are just a few parcels available for development around McMaster Innovation Park.

At the Hamilton Technology Centre in the Flamborough Business Park, the vacancy rate has finally increased, due to the sudden "graduation" of several businesses. But Penny Gardiner, who manages the centre, said it won't be long before the incubator will be full gain.

It's a situation that poses a number of problems for the city's economic development team.

Guy Paparella, the director of growth planning, said the approval this year of the airport employment growth district is needed to deal with lack of quality and quantity of land.

The city is supposed to have enough land until 2031, but provincial growth numbers have included an additional 10,000 jobs for Hamilton.

So how to find and retain businesses, and those jobs, in the future?

"We're already behind even with the airport employment growth district. It's just more pressure to increase land area," said Paparella.

Norm Schleehahn, the city's manager of business development, said the city department is restructuring in the new year in order to try to manage the tenants of the park to anticipate the challenges of trying to expand and locate new businesses in the current environment.

"We want to make sure we are making connections with as many employers as possible," he said. "This is part of putting a higher emphasis on corporate outreach, corporate calling program. It's all about retention and expansion."

Schleehahn said even just helping businesses navigate issues around snow removal and bus routes for employees can help an employer feel more connected to the city.

"Businesses need someone to talk to — it's about being proactive versus reactive," he said.
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There are a couple of editorial bookends to the above story in today’s Spectator. One deals with the Stoney Creek Business Park and East Hamilton Industrial Area, the other with the Hamilton Technology Centre and Flamborough Business Park:

Hamilton industrial parks: Finding growth in a full market
(Hamilton Spectator, Lisa Grace Marr, Dec 30 2013)

Tech incubator is hatching winners
(Hamilton Spectator, Lisa Grace Marr, Dec 30 2013)
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The people with the money are lying to us; this is lobbying by developers not fact. They say they won't touch brownfield lands but if it is remediated and sold to them at competitive rates they aren't going to be arguing aesthetics anymore. If we end the incentives to keep land underused then these parcels will be sold to people who will use them. Yes it is more expensive to remediate these lands but that's offset by the far smaller servicing costs.
It's not a matter of having the brownfields rehabilitated, but rather a lack of acreage. A couple of acres here and there just won't cut it. As for the US steel site it will more than likely be years before they decide what they want to sell off if anything at all.
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There are lots of different industries out there for us to attract. It doesn't have to be high acreage low job density factory and warehouse use.

That aside, there is clearly a ton of underutilized land in the north end. It's not "a couple of acres here and there". The sooner city hall makes it a priority to do a serious inventory and start using zoning bylaws to drive usage there, the better for all of us. We are squeezed between a great lake and farmland, we can't just keep spreading out forever.
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