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Meanwhile, on the lower eastside, where residents of less means have more legitimate concerns of taller towers altering the character of their neighborhood, there is no such hope of a specific rezoning for their neighborhood (as there shouldn't be for either).
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Wait, didn't they petition for a rezoning awhile back and was told no by city planning? So they are going to keep trying until it sticks? Is that their strategy?
     
     
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Wait, didn't they petition for a rezoning awhile back and was told no by city planning? So they are going to keep trying until it sticks? Is that their strategy?
This is their one selfish goal in life. Keep others out, and save their precious view.


https://www.6sqft.com/locals-employ-...-midtown-east/

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The group’s application has begun the formal land-use review process, and the local community board unanimously voted in favor of it. Last week Manhattan Borough President Gale Brewer formally approved it, and has said she would continue to back the plan. “I actually have not seen such a group of decent committed individuals. You never know what is going to happen.”

Two Manhattan council members, Ben Kallos and Daniel Garodnick, as well as state Senator Liz Krueger, are listed as co-applicants. The next step for the application is a City Planning Commission hearing and a vote later this summer.

The alliance, founded in 2015, says it has spent over $1 million on lawyers, planners and environmental consultants to advance the plan. The 62-story tower in question, seen in the newly-released rendering above, is known as Sutton 58 and will cantilever 10 feet over an adjacent apartment building next door. A zoning diagram shows the top of the building’s roof at 856 feet though the building permit states that it will be 799 feet high.

Many key members of the opposition movement live in a 484-foot-tall co-op tower known as the Sovereign, which would have some of its views blocked by the new tower. Somewhat ironically the Sovereign was criticized for being too tall for the neighborhood when it opened in 1974 as a luxury rental.

The group’s plan would limit new building heights to between 210 and 260 feet in a 10-block area of Midtown east of First Avenue. Developers would have to include affordable housing in their projects to be able to build to 260 feet.
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^An absolutely laughable and unworkable plan. Severely limit height, and I would gather density....yet make 20% "affordable".This kind of crap is why San Francisco has such a problem.. hopefully despite the support of those council members and the community board, this plan can be stopped.
     
     
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What's retarded about this downzoning if it goes through is that the city just upzoned Midtown East so these areas nearby actually should be upzoned instead, making more room for people to live so people could walk to work instead.
     
     
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Crews are rushing to dig the foundation of the tower before residents obtain a zoning change that would halt the project. The developer wins if the city declares that there's "substantial progress" on the foundation.

Because the building Kalikow wants to build is so tall, he must dig down to the bedrock. That means burrowing deeper than the buildings around it, which means underpinnings will have to be installed to keep those buildings stable.

On June 30, in response to calls, DOB inspectors showed up and discovered what they deemed to be problems with the builders’ plans for installing underpinnings, records show.

“We’re very concerned about our building,” said Isabel Shields, 83, a rent stabilized tenant who has lived in the building next door to the site for 40 years. “Are they bracing up the foundation of our building and the soil underneath our building? We're afraid that our building might collapse.”

Kalikow said there are no issues with the underpinnings and that the calls to DOB are simply meant to delay his progress. He admits “with the calls to 311, that has put a slow to things.”

He added cryptically, “I know why this is happening,” but would not elaborate. He said he’s since addressed DOB’s concerns and hopes to be back up and running soon.

In the end, this race may end up inside a courthouse. Kalikow contends the effort by his opponents is merely illegal spot zoning, so litigation may well ensue.

“There’s really no more clear cut case of spot zoning. That would be front and center,” he said. “We’re really hoping that it does not come to that.”
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East Side residents clash with developer in zoning war over project to build 78-story luxury tower





BY GREG B. SMITH
July 11, 2017


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Over in the lofty environs of that exclusive upscale Manhattan neighborhood known as Sutton Place, the race is on.

Along the quiet E. 58th St., just a block from the East River, a major New York developer is aggressively pushing to put up a 78-story luxury apartment tower before his well-heeled neighbors cut his plans down to size.

Crews hired by mogul Jonathan Kalikow have been working weekends, furiously digging the foundation for a huge 790-foot tower he wants to call Sutton 58.


Some residents of the upscale neighborhood, meanwhile, are pressing for expedited approval of a zoning change that would limit all buildings in the surrounding residential streets to a maximum of 260 feet. It would also require developers to include a higher percentage of affordable units in new buildings.

If Kalikow gets the city to declare that he’s made “substantial progress” on his foundation before his neighbors get their zoning change, he wins.

If not, he’ll be facing a big change to his big plan.

The rezoning must be approved by the city Planning Commission and the City Council — and so far has support from some key players: the local community board, Manhattan Borough President Gale Brewer, Councilmembers Ben Kallos and Dan Garodnick and State Sen. Liz Krueger.

The commission is expected to hold a hearing in the coming weeks with a vote perhaps by summer’s end.

The genesis of the rezoning bid is the East River Fifties Alliance, a coalition of residents in 45 neighborhood buildings that include a 48-story luxury co-op called The Sovereign across the street from the site.

Kalikow contends the rezoning is definitely not about affordable housing and only about protecting the views of the wealthy residents living in The Sovereign.

“They’ve cloaked this as affordable housing, which is such utter nonsense as to be laughable,” he said, noting that he’s agreed to spend $24 million to fund 75 affordable units in an East 39th St. building in nearby Murray Hill.

“Now they’re freaking out because somebody bested them,” he said of his opponents. “Now they’re doing everything they can because they don't want to lose their views.”


He notes that the building is actually smaller than the 950-foot behemoth originally proposed by a prior developer of the site who went bankrupt.

But he’s clearly sensitive about the height issue. On Friday he released a rendering of his building, but it only depicts the building up to the seventh floor. Everything above that is cut off.

Caught in the middle is the city Buildings Department. Rezoning supporters think the department has been tilting in the developer’s favor by repeatedly granting Kalikow weekend permits for “public safety” reasons.

“We think that’s completely wrong,” said Alan Kersh, Alliance president, who lives in The Sovereign. “The only reason they're giving Kalikow the permits is because Kalikow wants to get this done as soon as possible and I guess he has friends at the DOB.”

Last month, Kallos wrote to the department questioning the use of “public safety” to justify the after-hours permits. None of the work cited — including excavation and pouring concrete — “should qualify for ‘public safety,’” Kallos wrote.

DOB press secretary Andrew Rudansky offered no explanation of what public safety issue was involved, saying only that the “DOB issues After Hours Variances when work performed during regular hours poses a safety issue for the public.”

Kalikow, not surprisingly, thinks the buildings department favors his opponents. The department shut down the site last week after neighbors called 311 to complain workers were doing excavation that had undermined the stability of their building.

Because the building Kalikow wants to build is so tall, he must dig down to the bedrock. That means burrowing deeper than the buildings around it, which means underpinnings will have to be installed to keep those buildings stable.

On June 30, in response to calls, DOB inspectors showed up and discovered what they deemed to be problems with the builders’ plans for installing underpinnings, records show.

“We’re very concerned about our building,” said Isabel Shields, 83, a rent stabilized tenant who has lived in the building next door to the site for 40 years. “Are they bracing up the foundation of our building and the soil underneath our building? We're afraid that our building might collapse.”

Kalikow said there are no issues with the underpinnings and that the calls to DOB are simply meant to delay his progress. He admits “with the calls to 311, that has put a slow to things.”

He added cryptically, “I know why this is happening,” but would not elaborate. He said he’s since addressed DOB’s concerns and hopes to be back up and running soon.

In the end, this race may end up inside a courthouse. Kalikow contends the effort by his opponents is merely illegal spot zoning, so litigation may well ensue.

“There’s really no more clear cut case of spot zoning. That would be front and center,” he said. “We’re really hoping that it does not come to that.”

That's right. Build and sue those bastards even if they lose the rezoning race. Sue the City as well, because shame on City Planning for even entertaining this, farce or not. No other neighborhood gets this special treatment just to stop a project. NIMBYs all over the city would love to get this treatment.





https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/11/n...ury-tower.html

Development-Weary Neighborhood Tries to Block a New Luxury Tower

By CHARLES V. BAGLI
JULY 11, 2017


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Over the past 15 years, developers in seemingly every corner of the city have built luxury towers claiming to be the tallest residential skyscraper in the Western Hemisphere — or, in less grandiose cases, in Queens, or SoHo, or near Central Park in Midtown Manhattan.

But in a test of wills, residents and elected officials on the East Side have drawn a line in the sand.

They are in a race against the clock with a developer who plans to erect a 67-story supertower on a stretch of East 58th Street between First Avenue and Sutton Place.

The developer, Gamma Real Estate, has already demolished three four-story walk-ups and started digging a hole for the slim tower’s foundation.

But at the end of June, the Buildings Department shut down work on the site, after inspectors responding to an emergency call discovered small cracks in the foundation of a building next door.

Opponents of the project are hoping that the city will approve a zoning change for the neighborhood by Labor Day — before Gamma can resume work — that would limit the height of towers on side streets to about 21 stories.

If Gamma is instead able to get permission to resume construction and complete a substantial portion of the foundation before the rezoning, its tower will be allowed to rise to its full 800-foot height.


“New Yorkers are exhausted by overdevelopment,” said Ben Kallos, the city councilman who represents the area and a leading opponent of the tall tower. “This is about standing up and showing the city that there’s another way to do things.”

Critics of the project say that supertall towers in residential areas tend to overwhelm the neighborhood and displace less wealthy residents. Still, both Mayor Bill de Blasio and his predecessor, Michael R. Bloomberg, rezoned large sections of the city for ever taller buildings.

The zoning change, which was proposed by Mr. Kallos and other elected officials as well as neighborhood residents, has been in the works for two years. The proposed rezoning was recently approved by the Manhattan borough president, Gale Brewer, and unanimously endorsed by the local community board. Mr. Kallos hopes that the City Council will approve the proposal after the city’s Planning Department holds a public hearing on the matter in August.

Jon Kalikow, the president of Gamma Real Estate, said that it would be a “disastrous outcome” if the city were to adopt the rezoning proposal for a small portion of the Upper East Side, a process known as spot zoning.

“This would set a horrendous precedent in New York, enabling rich folks to stop a nearby building they didn’t like,” he said.

“The last thing we want to do is go to the courts,” Mr. Kalikow added. “Our goal is not to fight with our neighbors. The fact of the matter is that the amount of money we invested here is based on what we can build” under the current zoning.

Mr. Kalikow took over the project after the original developer, Joseph P. Beninati, defaulted on a total of $147 million in loans from Gamma. To assemble the building site, Mr. Beninati had spent a fortune buying three walk-ups on the south side of 57th Street and unused development rights from nearby buildings.

He even offered a resident of another building, Herndon Werth, $1 million to vacate his rent-regulated apartment so he could buy his building and demolish it. Mr. Werth, 81, declined, saying, “I ain’t going anywhere.”

Mr. Beninati’s intention was to build an 80-story, 900-foot-tall tower, the latest addition to Billionaires’ Row, a stretch of Midtown where developers have erected skyscrapers with apartments selling in the $5,000-a-square-foot range, affordable only to those whose assets exceed mere millions. But he alienated local residents and was unable to secure financing.

Gamma took control of the site early this year and brought in the architect Thomas Juul-Hansen to design a sleek but somewhat smaller tower, though still more than 800 feet tall. The renderings available from the developer show only the front doors and the eight lowest floors.

Rather than marketing the apartments to wealthy foreigners who could afford Mr. Beninati’s planned $43.5 million penthouse, Mr. Kalikow said the tower would attract wealthy New Yorkers. “This is very much New York,” he said.

But Mr. Kalikow said he had been hampered by local opponents, many of whom live in the Sovereign, a 47-story apartment building directly across the street from Gamma’s site. They do not want to lose their view, Mr. Kalikow said.

In an irony not lost on anyone, the Sovereign was the overly tall luxury tower that residents complained about when it opened its doors in 1975. The architecture critic Paul Goldberger, writing for The New York Times, described it at the time as “brutally destructive of the scale of 58th Street and Sutton Place.”

Alan Kersh, a resident of the Sovereign and the founding president of the East River Fifties Alliance, which opposes the new tower, said there was a great deal of opposition in his building. But with an apartment on the 26th floor, his views would be blocked regardless of whether Gamma’s proposed tower or a smaller building was built.

The rezoning, he said, would protect residential side streets in the area from tall towers. Developers would be able to increase the size of their buildings by a couple of floors if they included units reserved for poor and moderate-income tenants who live in the area.

“It’s not about one building, the Sovereign — it’s about the whole neighborhood,” Mr. Kersh said. “This building could dramatically change the character of our neighborhood.”

Mr. Kersh, whose day job involves investing pension funds in multifamily rental housing, said that the alliance was composed of more than 2,200 supporters, and that 45 co-ops and condominiums contributed varying amounts of money for the campaign against the tower.

Mr. Kallos, the city councilman, began organizing against the tower shortly after he heard about Mr. Beninati’s plans. He was joined by City Councilman Dan Garodnick, who represents an adjoining district, and State Senator Liz Krueger.

As Gamma started demolition earlier this year, Mr. Kallos said he had urged local residents like Charles Fernandez to call 911 if they felt their buildings were in jeopardy from the demolition and excavation work on the cramped site.

At the end of June, Mr. Fernandez said his sister Isabel Fernandez had called the Fire Department after she felt the building shudder.

“It’s an old building,” Mr. Fernandez said. “We feared the building might collapse.”

The Buildings Department said that buildings on either side of the construction site were not in danger of collapsing. But the developer was ordered to shore up the underpinning for the adjoining buildings and to continually monitor the site. Work cannot restart until there is another inspection.

Mr. Kalikow said that he had complied with the inspector’s instructions, but worried that the situation had become so politicized that he does not know when he can resume work.

His opponent Mr. Kallos said, “I’m seeing some daylight,” and added: “It’s a fight to the finish.”
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There is no way they are seriously concerned with affordable housing, I agree with Kalikow. This is more wealthy people trying to protect their turf(and views, especially) more than anything. If the move to limit height in the area to 260 ft.(and also call for strict review of anything proposed for Midtown over 600 ft) gains traction, the leadership in the city is nuts.
     
     
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Props to the developer for calling out these people out on their BS. It is really depressing how many people in city/state government support such a blatant abuse of rezoning.
     
     
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Jezz that thing is going to be ridiculously tall
     
     
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The race is on...

http://www1.nyc.gov/assets/planning/...9m-neg-dec.pdf


I find it interesting that the residents of the Lower East Side who are pushing for the same thing are having no such luck.



https://therealdeal.com/issues_artic...lace-heats-up/

The latest fight to build a supertall on Sutton Place heats up


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Kalikow said that while he didn’t have an estimate for how much longer the foundation would take, his team is working fast and efficiently. Asked what Gamma would do if the rezoning were approved before the project’s foundation gets completed, he said that’s “not a contingency we’ve thought about at this point.”
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This building is going to block currently unobstructed southern views of the building where the group attempting to push through the rezoning has filed as their HQ. How much more blatantly obvious can this be? Any politician supporting this is a shill and should be run out of town.
     
     
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This maneuver screams NIMBY desperation at its most shameful and it should be trounced on the sole merits of begging the question.
     
     
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Gamma likely can’t beat clock to avoid proposed zoning change that will stunt Sutton Place tower
Jonathan Kalikow says foundation won't be complete


October 10, 2017


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Gamma Real Estate’s Jonathan Kalikow said his company “will absolutely not” be finished with the foundation of Sutton 58 to escape a potential zoning change that will slash the tower in half.

A proposal to rezone 10-block area including Gamma’s 430 West 58th Street could be voted on as early as next month. The change would require buildings in the area to adhere to “tower on a base” standards, which means that 45 to 50 percent of the building would need to be built below 150 feet.

This would mean the 67-story tower would likely be downsized to a 35-story building, Bloomberg reported.

Gamma would need to finish the bulk of its foundation work before the zoning change is approved in order to avoid the new restrictions.

Construction crews have been working Saturdays, and Kalikow has previously said he’s hopeful that they’d beat the clock. But he told Bloomberg that they won’t be able to catch up.
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The NIMBY scum and their ideas of NYC being a Kenyan Village are out in force:

I thought this was Gale Brewer for a minute.



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Sutton Place residents make their case for stymying skyscrapers at City Planning



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Just a few weeks after the East River 50s Alliance unveiled a new plan [PDF!] to rezone the Sutton Place area, and curtail the development of towers like the Gamma Real Estate-planned 800-foot skyscraper, the proposal came before the City Planning Commission, the Commercial Observer reports.

On Wednesday, the Commission heard testimony from members of the alliance, other Sutton Place residents, and local elected officials, all of whom back this rezoning effort. Jonathan Kalikow, a principal at Gamma, was also present at the meeting, along with several construction workers, all in opposition to the rezoning effort (of course).

As it stands now, the Alliance is calling for a rezoning that would follow the “tower on a base” principle, wherein 45 to 50 percent of the tower would sit below 150 feet. That would essentially cut Gamma’s project in half.

Previously the rezoning wanted to curtail the height of buildings in this area to 260 feet, but after City Planning raised concerns about that rezoning, the Alliance altered its rezoning proposal.

This latest effort has the backing of several local elected officials including City Council member Ben Kallos. In order for Gamma to move forward with its current plan for the tower, it will have to complete construction on the foundation by Thanksgiving. That’s basically impossible, Kalikow told AM New York.

Manhattan Borough President Gale Brewer and the local Community Board opted not to review this plan so the rezoning can be fast tracked, and if it is to pass soon then Gamma’s project will be forced to change. The Planning Commission is expected to render its decision on November 1, after which the proposal will move to the City Council for consideration.
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Flash rezoning this area sets a terrible precedent. Other than NIMBYism is there an objective for this rezoning from a planning standpoint? There's not even a study on the DCP website. It also makes no sense to downzone an area to stifle residential development blocks from an area they just upzoned for commercial and office development.
     
     
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There is no planning objective. What we have here are a bunch of self-entitled snob residents who oppose this development because it will affect their views. The reduction in height for the area is asinine.

I could understand if its your land marked neighborhoods like numerous blocks of Greenwich village, where an 800 footer wouldn't really make sense, but here, on 58th street?

I do hope it doesn't become a reality.
     
     
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What’s the point of having a City Planning Commission if local communities and CBs gets to shape the zoning? These NIMBYs know very little about planning and smart growth. They all just want short buildings and less density.
     
     
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Too much power is given to the community boards. The chain of command needs to be followed. The CB's comments should be just one of many factor in the overall decision, and not the ultimatum. There has to be a legit reason. Given the area, and commercial/residential nearby eclipsing everything, it doesn't hold water to rezone this area. But in the end, its about preserving their views. It has nothing to do with the well being of the city.

The hacks in the city are just playing politics at this point. But hopefully crap like this will go away once Gale Brewer leaves. A shitty representative for Manhattan. She's more in tune with Frogballs, Kentucky than Manhattan.

The city needs more pro-development officials. This isn't just any ordinary place. Economic strength and meeting the demand is key.
     
     
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Flash rezoning this area sets a terrible precedent. Other than NIMBYism is there an objective for this rezoning from a planning standpoint? There's not even a study on the DCP website. It also makes no sense to downzone an area to stifle residential development blocks from an area they just upzoned for commercial and office development.
I wonder how the people on the Lower East side who have pushed for a similar "emergency" rezoning feel about this. But of course, the less affluent will be steamrolled.

Still, it's a dangerous door to open...


http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...pertall-towers

Push for height limits extended across entire Upper East Side
Community Board 8 hopes to launch major rezoning


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October 24, 2017


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Manhattan Community Board 8 is seeking to cap new buildings’ height at 210 feet, or roughly 20 stories, across the entire Upper East Side, an effort that is part of a recent wave of community backlash against high-rise apartment towers.

The community board is set to hold a hearing this week about a request that building heights be capped along First, Second, Third and York avenues, bringing them in line with other neighborhood thoroughfares including Park and Fifth avenues.

The board’s move is still preliminary: Someone still has to plunk down the cash to hire zoning experts who would draw up an actual application, a process that can take a year or more. If and when an application is complete, it would then have to undergo a seven-month public review process. Any projects that complete their foundation in the meantime would not be subject to the proposed zoning changes.

“We are getting ready to fight,” said City Councilman Ben Kallos, a critic of residential skyscrapers who supports the board’s proposal and is working to advance it from idea to reality. He has reason to be hopeful.

The City Planning Commission held a hearing last week on another proposal in Kallos’ district that would limit heights in Sutton Place. In that case, the proposal was initiated to try to stop a single tower that was projected to rise 800 feet along East 58th Street. Although it is unclear how successful that effort will be, it was a seen as a positive sign for activists looking to stymie similar 
large-scale projects in other parts of the city.


Whey the rich of the Upper East Side seem to get their way, while the lesser affluent of the Lower East Side seem to get nowhere isn't a mystery.
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